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Abbie NORML
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.19 02:50:00 -
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I've always been a hybrid controller/mouse player while playing infantry. Controller left hand, mouse right hand. Mostly due to the inability to remap a keyboard to acceptable controls. I just returned recently from an extended DUST break and have been having a huge problem with this.....
At random times my aim just goes berserk, it gets stuck moving a direction... up, down, right, left, or a combination of two and I can't stop my gun from moving unless I let go of the mouse and spend 10+ seconds jamming the right control stick random directions. The number of kills I've missed out on and the number of times I've died because I completely lose control of my character is getting ridiculous.
The only thing I can confirm is that it begins happening while holding right-click to aim down my sights. The other factor that causes it to happen, aiming, shooting, directional movement or whatever, I can't reliably replicate. All I know is that if I'm on my heavy with a forge gun this issue will never happen, cause there's no reason to push the right mouse button. It happens the most often while using the laser rifle and a moderate amount with an assault rifle.
Is this a known issue? Has there been a change in mouse compatibility? Are we just plain no longer allowed to use this control scheme?
Any help would be appreciated... thanks!
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CCP Delamorui Eddy
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.20 09:26:00 -
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Hi, thank you for contacting us.
This is a very strange issue that I canGÇÖt reproduce. Did you try to change controller to resolve this issue? More details would help! 
Thank you.
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Rabbit C515
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.20 09:53:00 -
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I also suffer from this issue.
it happen even when you just using mouse, I am not sure the controller is turn on or off.
no matter how you move your mouse , it just stuck moving in one direction. I need to use controller and move in the direction which it stuck
moving to solve this.
this issue just randomly happen, will it be useful that we provide the time when this issue happen, so ccp
can check the battle log? |
ZiwZih
Seraphim Initiative..
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Posted - 2014.01.20 11:25:00 -
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Rabbit C515 wrote:I also suffer from this issue.
it happen even when you just using mouse, I am not sure the controller is turn on or off.
no matter how you move your mouse , it just stuck moving in one direction. I need to use controller and move in the direction which it stuck
moving to solve this.
this issue just randomly happen, will it be useful that we provide the time when this issue happen, so ccp
can check the battle log?
I am having this issue too, though I always thought it is due to my controller being thrown at the wall at one point by my, proto-bear-stomping try-hard hate-to-lose, wife.
Guess other people who experience this are more decent, so it is a DUST-side thingie? Or all our controllers are in a bad shape.
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Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1555
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Posted - 2014.01.20 13:54:00 -
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This happens to me *all the time*, even though I only ever use the DS3 between dying and respawning. It seems to be related to aim assist. After I turned it off my aim will sometimes wander to the left and up a little when I spawn, but it almost always stops immediately. With aim assist on it continues until I pick up the DS3 and counteract the spin for a few seconds, then I get control back.
With aim assist on and using a mouse (I tested it again this weekend) the activation of the AA mechanic can cause your character to start dancing like a ballerina. ie: near the end of a match I snuck up behind some guy, lined up a headshot and started shooting him with my AR. He started running, AA started tracking him for a split second and then he got away because AA started fighting me for control. The "pull" is always up and to the left. The same thing can happen when you spawn in.
Also, I only bought my PS3 early last year and aside from Dust I really don't play games on it much. Basically, my DS3 is in brand-new condition. |
Cinder Integ
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.20 14:57:00 -
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I occasionally use both as well, i have only experienced a large "twitch" when switching from right analog to mouse. This occurres once when first using the mouse and then plays correctly
Trading cookies for ISK
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S Park Finner
DUST University
Ivy League
351
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Posted - 2014.01.20 15:50:00 -
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FWIW I've been having this problem as well. It's been regular but infrequent -- though it does seem to happen at the most inopportune times.
It is but to keep the nerves at strain, to dry one's eyes and laugh at a fall, and baffled, get up and begin again.
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Zunist Tae
Ivory Vanguard
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Posted - 2014.01.20 17:52:00 -
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What kind of mouse are you using? And what kind of mouse pad (If you're using a Razr, the color of the mouse pad is also important....) |
Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1166
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Posted - 2014.01.20 20:05:00 -
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This is happening to straight KBM users as well.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1557
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Posted - 2014.01.20 20:08:00 -
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Happens to me with basic logitech mice (one cheapo one, another more expensive) |
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Abbie NORML
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.20 20:33:00 -
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CCP Delamorui Eddy wrote:Hi, thank you for contacting us. This is a very strange issue that I canGÇÖt reproduce. Did you try to change controller to resolve this issue? More details would help! Thank you.
I have 3 PS3 controllers, happens with all of them. I use a Logitech M510 mouse but I also tried my wife's "Hello Kitty" mouse, /facepalm, with the same results.
As others have posted, Aim Assist must be it. As I previously posted, Quote:The number of kills I've missed out on and the number of times I've died because I completely lose control of my character is getting ridiculous. The only time this problem starts is when I'm directly aiming at someone.... it must be because my target moved and Aim Assist is freaking out.
Loading my infantry character now for some more testing. |
Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
974
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:26:00 -
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this happens to me once or twice a week playing with kbm. if I switch to my secondary weapon it will stop until I switch back to my first weapon. doesnt matter if it's the sidearm or main. mine always turns to the right for some reason. if I die then the problem clears up.
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Abbie NORML
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
8
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:38:00 -
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Quote:Loading my infantry character now for some more testing.
Turned Aim Assist OFF... have made it through 2x Domination games without experiencing any problems. Will update again if I experience any other issues. |
M Zwei
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.21 00:13:00 -
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it happens sometimes, but i cant find and pattern to trigger this bug,
when lightarm suck in this bug, switching to sidearm or equirement and this bug disappear
switching back and it happen again
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
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Posted - 2014.01.21 10:27:00 -
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Abbie NORML wrote:***EDIT*** - Turning Aim Assist to OFF seems to have fixed the problem. Noting it here so others don't have to read the entire thread to find a solution. ***/endEDIT***
I've always been a hybrid controller/mouse player while playing infantry. Controller left hand, mouse right hand. Mostly due to the inability to remap a keyboard to acceptable controls. I just returned recently from an extended DUST break and have been having a huge problem with this.....
At random times my aim just goes berserk, it gets stuck moving a direction... up, down, right, left, or a combination of two and I can't stop my gun from moving unless I let go of the mouse and spend 10+ seconds jamming the right control stick random directions. The number of kills I've missed out on and the number of times I've died because I completely lose control of my character is getting ridiculous.
The only thing I can confirm is that it begins happening while holding right-click to aim down my sights. The other factor that causes it to happen, aiming, shooting, directional movement or whatever, I can't reliably replicate. All I know is that if I'm on my heavy with a forge gun this issue will never happen, cause there's no reason to push the right mouse button. It happens the most often while using the laser rifle and a moderate amount with an assault rifle.
Is this a known issue? Has there been a change in mouse compatibility? Are we just plain no longer allowed to use this control scheme?
Any help would be appreciated... thanks!
Thankyou dear sir! This has been frustrating me no end! Every now and again I randomly start turning in one direction without even pressing anything and it has got me killed a few times now.
I usually have to turn the DS3 controller on and wiggle the sticks to make this stop. I shall check and turn off the aim assist setting and see if this helps out!
I have also heard others talk about how the KB/M and the DS3 options cross interfering with each other. Thanks again for the heads up! |
Abbie NORML
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.21 20:34:00 -
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Going on a 2nd day and still not having any major problems now that Aim Assist is OFF.
However, I do notice that when I grab the controller to swap equipment/squad orders the right stick doesn't always respond. Seems tied to the issue of using both a mouse and controller. Overall, it's a bit frustrating but not completely game-breaking like the issue I was having before turning aim assist off.
Hopefully this will be my last post on the thread. With any luck CCP can find a fix rapidly. It drove me nuts and I can only imagine how many others are having this issue as well. |
Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
215
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:07:00 -
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CCP Delamorui Eddy wrote:Hi, thank you for contacting us. This is a very strange issue that I canGÇÖt reproduce. Did you try to change controller to resolve this issue? More details would help! Thank you.
Happens to me all the time, it's random usu. happens when I'm tracking while aiming down the sight, and the reticule will just become stuck moving in a random direction.
only fixes are:
1. Death, most common especially in a firefight
2. Swapping to off-hand weapon, though the problem persists so if I swap back the reticule veers off again
3. Quickly turning on the DS3 and jiggling the analog sticks
4. If DS3 is already on, see options 1&2
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Abbie NORML
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:54:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:CCP Delamorui Eddy wrote:Hi, thank you for contacting us. This is a very strange issue that I canGÇÖt reproduce. Did you try to change controller to resolve this issue? More details would help! Thank you. Happens to me all the time, it's random usu. happens when I'm tracking while aiming down the sight, and the reticule will just become stuck moving in a random direction. only fixes are: 1. Death, most common especially in a firefight 2. Swapping to off-hand weapon, though the problem persists so if I swap back the reticule veers off again 3. Quickly turning on the DS3 and jiggling the analog sticks 4. If DS3 is already on, see options 1&2
Did you turn Aim Assist OFF? fixed the problem for me. |
ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
145
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Posted - 2014.01.25 08:45:00 -
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Turning aim assist off for the controller options has fixed this issue for me! Thanks again. |
Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
1007
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:31:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:Turning aim assist off for the controller options has fixed this issue for me! Thanks again.
I've noticed that this seems to relate to aim assist too. It seems when using kbm that sometime aim assist kicks in though it shouldn't, and then the spinning starts.
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CCP Delamorui Eddy
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.28 05:17:00 -
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Hi, thank you for all of your information.
Finally, I have reproduced this and reported a bug for this. Turning AA off will solve this issue.
Thank you.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1101
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Posted - 2014.01.28 07:38:00 -
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So, AA DOES affect mouse.....?
Is this news for you too? Because I have gotten an earlier response from support that it doesnt. Players have however said the opposite.
Please make a short KB/M guide for your players and clarify all mouse settings!
Prepare for 1.8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhISgw3I2w
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Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1598
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:25:00 -
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AA is always on when you have it turned on, even if the controller isn't receiving any input. It does affect the mouse if you're inputs act like a controller. ie: instead of making micro aim adjustments with the mouse, you sidestep a little. If you're not pivoting, AA will grab your crosshairs and put them over the target. Most mouse users though are *always* pivoting by tiny amounts, which stops AA from engaging most of the time.
Except for those times when you've dialed in on a stationary enemy for a perfect, clean kill. Then he moves and triggers your AA :p |
JF duBre
Wraith Shadow Guards
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.01.28 21:02:00 -
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The best solution ... stop M/K support!!!  |
G Torq
ALTA B2O
391
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Posted - 2014.01.29 19:40:00 -
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Abbie NORML wrote:
At random times my aim just goes berserk, it gets stuck moving a direction... up, down, right, left, or a combination of two and I can't stop my gun from moving unless I let go of the mouse and spend 10+ seconds jamming the right control stick random directions. The number of kills I've missed out on and the number of times I've died because I completely lose control of my character is getting ridiculous.
While your issue has been tracked down to being AimAssist, I'll just add that a very similar issue can be seen when using a PS3 controller in a high-RF-noise environment (lots of Wifi, other sources of 2.4GHz RF interference) - the PS3 will receive a command to move, then miss the command to stop moving, resulting in spinning around a lot.
In previous versions of DUST514, the client would reset the input, resulting in stutters, when there was a lot of RF noise causing interrupted communication between controller and PS3. In later versions, the client would no longer cause a reset of the character movement, but instead allow it to continue for a while, resulting in spins.
(note: I do not know why, but rotation/aim seems more susceptible than movement for some reason).
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HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
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