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Blind Nojoy
G I A N T General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.19 05:49:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Only heavies and scouts should get respected.
Logo and assaults should remain the same. Anyone who cries over the different medium suits changes doesn't matter, as their just number crunchers. Their not playing the suit for its specific capabilities or role play, just its raw killing potential, which is fine, but undeserving a respec IMO.
These types of statements frustrate me. The majority of players selected a particular race because of certain bonuses. Said bonuses (the, you know, reason I picked the f*cking suit) ARE NOW COMPLETELY CHANGING.
IF they change the motivations for choosing a certain suit, THEN I should be afforded the ability to reselect a suit based on the changes THEY made. It would kind of be like me buying my truck. I bought mine for the supercharger, it's fast. F150 Harley Davidson. It has a truck bed still, but it's not designed for towing. Then, tomorrow, in my driveway is an F-250 super duty with 4 wheel drive and a big towing hitch...
It may still be a good truck.
But it's not what I f*cking paid for. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
1105
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:13:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:low genius wrote:what have they changed to warrant a respec? did they remove modules? are they rebuilding the skilltrees? something has to be removed for sp to be refunded. What I bought with my skills will not be the same anymore. And thus I feel that I am deserving to have my investment returned. Let's say you buy a house, it is a beautiful house you pay the bills for it etc. Then HOA comes to your house without your consent and starts painting it a color you don't like and remodeling it to how you don't like. Yet you still have to pay for it... obviously this won't happen in real life but if it did chances are your going to sue the living crap out of HOA and get your money back!
that's silly. should they refund the bpo's I bought because they changed? I had a useless maxed out heavy for 9 months and I wasn't in here asking for a respec... |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
1105
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:14:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Its funny like ANTI RESPEC PEOPLE are starting to come out with more stupid excuses why we shouldnt have one every day....
Hey. I dont even NEED a full respec.Just a Dropsuit Command SP reset.
2 reasons:
GÖª ENOUGH has changed that can dramatically affect my and each players game play GÖª''New'' options that were not available BEFORE 1.8 and SHOULD have been since Uprising came out, specially scouts,Commandos AND heavies had to go for specific races EVEN if not desired to play a certain way, and now NEED those SP in order to play as we intended in the first place,while not stack WASTED SP due to CCP's time frame to take them out.
i'm not saying I wouldn't like a respec. I am saying that this isn't the kind of situation where ccp hands out replacement sp very often. |
Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
151
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:24:00 -
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OP gets it.
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THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
423
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:24:00 -
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low genius wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Its funny like ANTI RESPEC PEOPLE are starting to come out with more stupid excuses why we shouldnt have one every day....
Hey. I dont even NEED a full respec.Just a Dropsuit Command SP reset.
2 reasons:
GÖª ENOUGH has changed that can dramatically affect my and each players game play GÖª''New'' options that were not available BEFORE 1.8 and SHOULD have been since Uprising came out, specially scouts,Commandos AND heavies had to go for specific races EVEN if not desired to play a certain way, and now NEED those SP in order to play as we intended in the first place,while not stack WASTED SP due to CCP's time frame to take them out. i'm not saying I wouldn't like a respec. I am saying that this isn't the kind of situation where ccp hands out replacement sp very often.
A 100% complete overhaul of all dropsuit racial bonuses, stats and inclusion of all racial variations of small, medium and heavy frame dropsuits 'isn't the kind of situation where CCP hands out replacement SP'?
Atli mentioned a respec at EVE Vegas when asked about the inclusion of new dropsuits. He said the whole process is very disruptive for the studio and the community and they wanted to do it all in one foul swoop. People can argue for or against but Vegas + community outcry + CPM support = all but confirmed.
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Blind Nojoy
G I A N T General Tso's Alliance
111
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:32:00 -
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low genius wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:low genius wrote:what have they changed to warrant a respec? did they remove modules? are they rebuilding the skilltrees? something has to be removed for sp to be refunded. What I bought with my skills will not be the same anymore. And thus I feel that I am deserving to have my investment returned. Let's say you buy a house, it is a beautiful house you pay the bills for it etc. Then HOA comes to your house without your consent and starts painting it a color you don't like and remodeling it to how you don't like. Yet you still have to pay for it... obviously this won't happen in real life but if it did chances are your going to sue the living crap out of HOA and get your money back! that's silly. should they refund the bpo's I bought because they changed? I had a useless maxed out heavy for 9 months and I wasn't in here asking for a respec...
KatanaPT Tech Guard RISE of LEGION Likes received: 444 #4Posted: 2013.09.06 15:29 | Report As previous posters said, open a ticket. i got my Raven suit refunded because i specced into Gallente suits instead of Caldari ones after the respec in uprising.
This guy did get a refund for his BPO. Sorry for the ghetto copy/paste but the thread is locked and I'm on my phone so nothing fancy. I know other guys said they got refunds as well by opening a ticket after they had skilled into a different race and could no longer use racial BPOs. |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens League of Infamy
340
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Posted - 2014.01.19 07:15:00 -
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It is triple experience, 5 times the reward from War Points. I imagine this could be a VERY lame week for people that don't get a lot of War Points and cap out by just being in long games.
As I have stated several times, I think a Dropsuit Command refund is all but confirmed. Dropsuit Command was changed heavily with so many additions that flat out change how you play the game. It isn't a new weapon or a new module. Having an entirely different suit means you play the game completely differently. To those that wanted to be Caldari Loyalists, is it reasonable for them to wait an entire year to use a Caldari Heavy Suit? I think the game is being shaken up so much that a refund is perfectly understandable.
When it comes to Dropsuit Upgrades and Weaponry, there you have a much more interesting discussion. Dropsuit Command was changed, so refund makes sense. Of course, Upgrades and Weaponry weren't changed at all but by proxy they were. When it basically states "you Caldari Assaults use this weapon, period", it creates such a problem for those that cannot skill into it. In that aspect, I could be brought to believe that a refund for Weaponry makes sense. Dropsuit Upgrades less so. You could argue that going from Amarr Heavy to Caldari Heavy you need different Dropsuit Upgrades skills but they are useful no matter what. Maybe a refund there makes sense if the other two get one as well.
For me, I don't really care. I got my refund when they drastically changed vehicles. I think for fairness infantry should get the same. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1498
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Posted - 2014.01.19 08:06:00 -
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Think about this. They likely went to extreme lengths to ensure that the racial Sentinels and Scouts (and Commandos) were to be introduced in the same update. I'm sure they could've introduced some of them (likely a few of the Sentinels) earlier if they really wanted to.
However, they wanted to introduce them all in the same update so that they could give a respec without having to do another one the next update again. Coupled with a complete overhaul of the suit bonuses it's clear that CCP wants to do a respec for 1.8 (and then likely never again).
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3770
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Posted - 2014.01.19 22:38:00 -
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low genius wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Its funny like ANTI RESPEC PEOPLE are starting to come out with more stupid excuses why we shouldnt have one every day....
Hey. I dont even NEED a full respec.Just a Dropsuit Command SP reset.
2 reasons:
GÖª ENOUGH has changed that can dramatically affect my and each players game play GÖª''New'' options that were not available BEFORE 1.8 and SHOULD have been since Uprising came out, specially scouts,Commandos AND heavies had to go for specific races EVEN if not desired to play a certain way, and now NEED those SP in order to play as we intended in the first place,while not stack WASTED SP due to CCP's time frame to take them out. i'm not saying I wouldn't like a respec. I am saying that this isn't the kind of situation where ccp hands out replacement sp very often.
I know. What IM saying is, ASK and you shall receive.......
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
1108
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Posted - 2014.01.19 23:12:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:low genius wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Its funny like ANTI RESPEC PEOPLE are starting to come out with more stupid excuses why we shouldnt have one every day....
Hey. I dont even NEED a full respec.Just a Dropsuit Command SP reset.
2 reasons:
GÖª ENOUGH has changed that can dramatically affect my and each players game play GÖª''New'' options that were not available BEFORE 1.8 and SHOULD have been since Uprising came out, specially scouts,Commandos AND heavies had to go for specific races EVEN if not desired to play a certain way, and now NEED those SP in order to play as we intended in the first place,while not stack WASTED SP due to CCP's time frame to take them out. i'm not saying I wouldn't like a respec. I am saying that this isn't the kind of situation where ccp hands out replacement sp very often. I know . What IM saying is, ASK and you shall receive.......
it's damaging to the game. not just the lore, but the community itself. a big part of eve online is that you never get those skillpoints back after you've trained them. it's the only thing that gives a young character the opportunity to out-skill an old character in specific situations. |
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1623
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Posted - 2014.01.19 23:18:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:I'm gonna get this out early With the amount of stuff in 1.8 there's almost certainley gonna be a respec but before you skill up to lvl 5 on that sexy caldari scout or prof 5 on that beautiful magsec smg (just because I like caldari gear doesn't mean I like the caldari :p) Try the STD or MLT varients first Silly old Draxus skilled up to prof 3 with the plasma cannon because it looked cool
DON'T WASTE YOUR SP
o7
Dropsuit Respec? Possible. Weapon Respec? Don't see any reason for that one.
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
2585
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Posted - 2014.01.19 23:23:00 -
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bump
"Imagine a world where hypothetical thoughts didn't exist" -Draxus Prime
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Nova Knife Proficeiney 5 \o/
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
807
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Posted - 2014.01.19 23:25:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:I'm gonna get this out early With the amount of stuff in 1.8 there's almost certainley gonna be a respec but before you skill up to lvl 5 on that sexy caldari scout or prof 5 on that beautiful magsec smg (just because I like caldari gear doesn't mean I like the caldari :p) Try the STD or MLT varients first Silly old Draxus skilled up to prof 3 with the plasma cannon because it looked cool
DON'T WASTE YOUR SP
o7
i only have about 10 mil+ wasted sp :(
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
2610
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Posted - 2014.01.23 03:30:00 -
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bump
"Imagine a world where hypothetical thoughts didn't exist" -Draxus Prime
Closed Beta Vet
Nova Knife Proficeiney 5 \o/
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1297
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Posted - 2014.01.23 05:07:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:I'm gonna get this out early With the amount of stuff in 1.8 there's almost certainley gonna be a respec but before you skill up to lvl 5 on that sexy caldari scout or prof 5 on that beautiful magsec smg (just because I like caldari gear doesn't mean I like the caldari :p) Try the STD or MLT varients first Silly old Draxus skilled up to prof 3 with the plasma cannon because it looked cool
DON'T WASTE YOUR SP
o7
I'm against respecs when it enables irresponsible insta proto spending and the subsequent dissapointment forum threads.
+1
I just want to move 2 of my 28 mil SP... so I can live without a repec, but wouldn't mind having one either.
Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514
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Maken Tosch
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
6535
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Posted - 2014.01.23 05:11:00 -
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There is also the famous fitting tools now available. Like this for example:
http://dust.thang.dk/
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Lloyd Sky9
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising
1
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Posted - 2014.02.19 15:08:00 -
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I think a respec is in order for the simple fact dust is a slow game to get good at depending on what you run. If we earn our skill points through hard work(booster or not) people do deserve a chance to reallocate there sp to the correct weapons, core skills(for the fact that the bonus's to suits are changing), and suits(considering the new additions). A smart thing to do would allow a respec for the people who are getting impacted and in 1.8 Everyone is. |
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