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kiarbanor
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:24:00 -
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What does an SSD do for Dust? I've heard people that have switched over to an SSD load into matches quicker.
I understand computers, but can someone please explain the benefits of an SSD with Dust.
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2538
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:27:00 -
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You can load into matches before everyone else and sometimes you get time on the warbarge to see who your playing before you deploy.
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University Ivy League
71
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:30:00 -
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I have a Hybrid drive 750GB which works wonders. The entire PS3 system feels more quick and responsive, and I do believe the loading times in Dust becomes shorter. (I am usually one of the first to hit the ground)
Don't think you gain anything with a pure SSD, and I need big memory for PS+ |
kiarbanor
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
285
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:30:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:You can load into matches before everyone else and sometimes you get time on the warbarge to see who your playing before you deploy.
It doesn't allow smoother movement within the game or anything else? |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
865
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:34:00 -
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Textures load way faster.. faster load times.. PS3 sux for memory.. SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference...
On a PS3 where most developers use the ps3's hard drive for tricks to get around the memory problems it makes massive differences in almost all gaming situations on it... |
kiarbanor
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
285
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:37:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Textures load way faster.. faster load times.. PS3 sux for memory.. SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference...
On a PS3 where most developers use the ps3's hard drive for tricks to get around the memory problems it makes massive differences in almost all gaming situations on it...
So, what happens to all your contacts and games on your old hard drive? Are they attached to your PSN account or something? |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
865
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:37:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuKRH0aHRM
Good to look at what it does to Skyrim frame rates... some say it applies here i still have massive frame rate issues in DUST regardless.
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Asirius Medaius
801
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:39:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Textures load way faster.. faster load times.. PS3 sux for memory.. SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference...
Either you were trolled with that information, or you are a complete idiot who has no idea what you are talking about.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
865
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:48:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:Bethhy wrote:Textures load way faster.. faster load times.. PS3 sux for memory.. SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference...
Either you were trolled with that information, or you are a complete idiot who has no idea what you are talking about.
Seeing is believing.. A lot of people would be wrong on that account of your so informative post.
Meh i've done my own personal tests with capture card as far as DUST and many games on the ps3. |
Shutter Fly
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
209
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:49:00 -
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It makes a big difference. I'm always the first one to spawn in at the start of a game, the first to get any vehicle I might call in, and usually the first to the objective. You can always instantly tell who else has one, because they are walking around the warbarge before the game starts.
Don't waste your money on a pure SSD. A Hybrid drive has much more memory and is much cheaper than a true SSD (almost the same $/GB as a HDD), but it still gives about the same performance.
I got a 1TB SSHD (Solid State Hybrid Drive) off of newegg for a little over $100, much better than the $300-400 you would be spending on a 512GB SSD, or the $600-1000 for a 1TB SSD (Yes, that is a thing). |
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pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
289
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:55:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:Bethhy wrote:Textures load way faster.. faster load times.. PS3 sux for memory.. SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference...
Either you were trolled with that information, or you are a complete idiot who has no idea what you are talking about. this^ its like putting a porsche engine, in a beat up, rusty, 87' ford van. the performance will not out way, the cost |
pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
289
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:58:00 -
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Shutter Fly wrote:It makes a big difference. I'm always the first one to spawn in at the start of a game, the first to get any vehicle I might call in, and usually the first to the objective. You can always instantly tell who else has one, because they are walking around the warbarge before the game starts.
Don't waste your money on a pure SSD. A Hybrid drive has much more memory and is much cheaper than a true SSD (almost the same $/GB as a HDD), but it still gives about the same performance.
I got a 1TB SSHD (Solid State Hybrid Drive) off of newegg for a little over $100, much better than the $300-400 you would be spending on a 512GB SSD, or the $600-1000 for a 1TB SSD (Yes, that is a thing). so i can be first to spawn and get my 80 gj scruby before anyone else, for only a few hundred dollars? totally worth it |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
865
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Posted - 2014.01.18 17:08:00 -
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pyramidhead 420 wrote:Asirius Medaius wrote:Bethhy wrote:Textures load way faster.. faster load times.. PS3 sux for memory.. SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference...
Either you were trolled with that information, or you are a complete idiot who has no idea what you are talking about. this^ its like putting a porsche engine, in a beat up, rusty, 87' ford van. the performance will not out way, the cost
This will pretty much be the pattern of posts about the SSD in any platform echoed over the internet. Some have seen the changes and believe in them and some people have tried it themselfs and saw no difference for how they play games.
there are people who swear by them and people who will spend all day saying it makes no significant difference and the PS3 will never benefit much from a SSD. *shrugs* i just know my experiences with it. |
Shutter Fly
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
209
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Posted - 2014.01.18 17:16:00 -
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pyramidhead 420 wrote:Shutter Fly wrote:It makes a big difference. I'm always the first one to spawn in at the start of a game, the first to get any vehicle I might call in, and usually the first to the objective. You can always instantly tell who else has one, because they are walking around the warbarge before the game starts.
Don't waste your money on a pure SSD. A Hybrid drive has much more memory and is much cheaper than a true SSD (almost the same $/GB as a HDD), but it still gives about the same performance.
I got a 1TB SSHD (Solid State Hybrid Drive) off of newegg for a little over $100, much better than the $300-400 you would be spending on a 512GB SSD, or the $600-1000 for a 1TB SSD (Yes, that is a thing). so i can be first to spawn and get my 80 gj scruby before anyone else, for only a few hundred dollars? totally worth it Pretty much, and yes, I do feel that it was worth it. It gives a distinct advantage, especially in PC where it really counts.
Besides, it isn't like the drive is hard soldered into the PS3 once it's in there. If I ever get a PS4, I can swap it out and never have to worry about HDD space for as long as I own it. |
Asirius Medaius
802
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Posted - 2014.01.18 17:17:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:pyramidhead 420 wrote:Asirius Medaius wrote:Bethhy wrote:Textures load way faster.. faster load times.. PS3 sux for memory.. SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference...
Either you were trolled with that information, or you are a complete idiot who has no idea what you are talking about. this^ its like putting a porsche engine, in a beat up, rusty, 87' ford van. the performance will not out way, the cost This will pretty much be the pattern of posts about the SSD in any platform echoed over the internet. Some have seen the changes and believe in them and some people have tried it themselfs and saw no difference for how they play games. there are people who swear by them and people who will spend all day saying it makes no significant difference and the PS3 will never benefit much from a SSD. *shrugs* i just know my experiences with it.
I'm not talking about your argument with the PS3 and the SSD; I'm talking about SSDs in a PC. The only way you would see no difference, is if you put a SSD in a SATA 2 port, or if you are so brain-dead that you can't tell the difference in large chunks of time being hastened.
When you talk about PC's, don't act like you know what you are talking about. There are people on this forum who came from EVE Online who know a great deal more about hardware than dustbunnies like you.
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MrShooter01
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
446
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Posted - 2014.01.18 17:27:00 -
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Shutter Fly wrote:It makes a big difference. I'm always the first one to spawn in at the start of a game, the first to get any vehicle I might call in, and usually the first to the objective. You can always instantly tell who else has one, because they are walking around the warbarge before the game starts.
Don't waste your money on a pure SSD. A Hybrid drive has much more memory and is much cheaper than a true SSD (almost the same $/GB as a HDD), but it still gives about the same performance.
I got a 1TB SSHD (Solid State Hybrid Drive) off of newegg for a little over $100, much better than the $300-400 you would be spending on a 512GB SSD, or the $600-1000 for a 1TB SSD (Yes, that is a thing).
I got this 500gb SSHD last year, haven't regretted it. Ive got just about every digital game from a year and a half of PS+ installed on it, including real storage hogs like uncharted 3 and the last of us, and I still have 75gb of free space remaining. Not bad for $80.
I always see the warbarge for about 10 seconds in every public match too, which I didn't even realize was unusual until someone asked if I was running a SSD |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2710
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Posted - 2014.01.18 17:27:00 -
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The main advantage is deploying a few seconds before everyone else. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
5675
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Posted - 2014.01.18 17:29:00 -
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I have an SSD in my PS3
It's beautfiul.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
50
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Posted - 2014.01.18 17:29:00 -
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The only reason you will notice performance improvements by adding a SSD is down to load times. However a PS3 will not fully utilise the performance an SSD drive can bring to the table. SSD drives and even just a faster 7200RPM laptop drive will increase performance compared to the standard drive in your PS3.
Bare in mind that RAM is a premium on the PS3 as well as other things like bandwidth so you will never get the performance levels that much better from bog standard. SSD has been known to fix problems, reduce wait times and in the case of DUST many people report being able to load into the game some seconds earlier.
Remember though that DUST has no disc, it runs solely from the saved information on your hard drive so unlike some other games it may benefit more than most when it comes to texture loading and game load times. However it will not miraculously cure lag and or make your frame rate improve ten fold.
Actually that's a good point - has anyone noticed increased frame rates from adding in an SSD or anything after-market like that? I would assume not but there is the possibility.
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JL3Eleven
1582
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Posted - 2014.01.18 17:34:00 -
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I have an SSHD and it is well worth it. (It helps greatly on Skyrim!)
It use to be in Beta you had a 30 second head start over everyone without one. Now it's around a 5 second head start.
Supercorp: A corporation with the ability to shape and control events and project power on a New Eden-wide scale.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
865
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Posted - 2014.01.18 17:41:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1o1I1zb8gU
Its Huge in FF14 with render times, it helps massively with frame rates in skyrim.. but it only helps with load times in DUST ;) |
Jungian
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
293
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Posted - 2014.01.18 17:44:00 -
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Bethhy wrote: SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference...
The level of ignorance is strong in this one.
Just saying, Arma III loads in 5 seconds on my SSD, compared to 20 seconds on HDD. And it certainly helps with texture loads too. What makes you say it doesnt make that huge of a difference on PC? like, wtf?
http://www.twitch.tv/rnd_jungian/
In New Eden no one can hear you whine.
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
52
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Posted - 2014.01.18 17:55:00 -
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Jungian wrote:Bethhy wrote: SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference... The level of ignorance is strong in this one. Just saying, Arma III loads in 5 seconds on my SSD, compared to 20 seconds on HDD. And it certainly helps with texture loads too. What makes you say it doesnt make that huge of a difference on PC? like, wtf?
I have to agree with Jungian here Bethhy.
If anything the difference is much less pronounced on the PS3 than the PC as the PC can use all available bandwidth and store anything needed into the 10`s of gigs of super fast RAM available on PC`s now a days while the 256mb of paltry memory available on a PS3 will struggle to benefit as much. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
2245
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Posted - 2014.01.18 18:03:00 -
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So SSD or SSHD?
Intelligence is OP
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2014.01.18 18:16:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:When you talk about PC's, don't act like you know what you are talking about. There are people on this forum who came from EVE Online who know a great deal more about hardware than dustbunnies like you. I don't think that an EVE background qualifies you for PC knowledge. But I guess it's better than making the same claim about any other type of MMO player - At least for EVE I can kind of believe it. I'm a dustbunny and I know enough about PCs to know that the dude is talking bullshit, though.
The PS3 is not intended to utilize SSDs and thus gains barely any gains from it. I've seen a few tests and I'm surprised that there are specific titles that *do* profit from it. Well, I'm actually not surprised at the Skyrim gains due to the specific issues with Skyrim (Namely Bethesda using an engine with a bug that has already existed in Oblivion and not bothering to fix it. It causes save file sizes to explode, but isn't all that visible on PC (Due to huge amounts of disposable memory) and Xbox (Because it's the lead platform). If you bought Skyrim for PS3, you should be eligible for a Darwin Award and shot for supporting crimes against gaming.) A PC, meanwhile, can reach sub-10 seconds boot times with an SSD. Especially on Windows 8 you'll get extreme performance increases across the board, (Especially at boot, due to its semi-hibernate nature) because it seems to utilize the HDD more than Windows 7. The HDD on my notebook seems to be the bottleneck since I upgraded, while the OS itself is less bloated than the prior version.
@Anon Cerberus: Actually, shouldn't smaller memory make an SSD more useful? (Let's pretend that the PS3 was actually making use of that upgrade) If your memory is full, you can save to HDD for access. With an SSD that access should be quite a bit faster - It's basically very slow RAM. With huge amounts of RAM, you can just load your memory full and never use the HDD after the initial loading is done. Actually, which kind of RAM does the PS3 use? The system is about eight years old, after all. I wouldn't be surprised if, by now, SSDs are faster than the RAM that was used back then. Would be quite funny. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that it didn't use cheap standard RAM. Back then RAM speed was a bigger concern than RAM size. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1068
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Posted - 2014.01.18 18:42:00 -
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SSD does nothing for Dust, it is slightly faster than regular harddrive for massive overinvestment. PS3 uses SATA I port, the OS does not support SSDs and the motherboard harddrive controller also cannot utilizize the fast transfer rates of the SSD. in fact a hybrid drive will be just as fast as the SSD and you will save alot of money. |
Regis Blackbird
DUST University Ivy League
72
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Posted - 2014.01.19 08:48:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:SSD does nothing for Dust, it is slightly faster than regular harddrive for massive overinvestment. PS3 uses SATA I port, the OS does not support SSDs and the motherboard harddrive controller also cannot utilizize the fast transfer rates of the SSD. in fact a hybrid drive will be just as fast as the SSD and you will save alot of money.
I would not say an SSD it does nothing, but I agree a hybrid is the way to go with PS3. As stated, due to SATA I it is not particular faster in transfer rate compared to a normal HDD, but you gain a lot in search times. (It's really with SATA II or III an SSD really starts to shine)
I got a Seagate Momentux XT 750GB Hybrid drive with 8GB SSD built in. Never regretted a second,
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Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1546
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Posted - 2014.01.19 08:59:00 -
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A hybrid drive makes a huge difference in dust. I've had guys in my squad spawn in 10 seconds before anyone else on the team. If you've got proto uplinks and a scout suit, just think of what that does for your team. We ran into this a lot early in PC, most of the teams we'd fight would be to the middle of the map with links all over by the time we got out of our redline.
The reason is that the ps3 doesn't have enough ram for the job, so they use a swap file on the hd to make up for it. A fast seek and big cache absolutely makes a difference. |
deezy dabest
Warpoint Sharx
160
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Posted - 2014.01.19 09:51:00 -
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I had considered a SSD for mine before since i have them in my laptop and PC but had forgotten the thought until I saw this thread. I just ordered a samsung 840 series 128gb (same as in my other systems) to drop in.
I will try to remember to report back once it is installed. |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
2092
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Posted - 2014.01.19 11:29:00 -
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Ive got a SSD since the closed beta. Back then it was a huge step forward by faster loading times, much better framerate (flying a dropship wihout was allmost impossible without crashing the game) and textures load aswell quicker which means once you spawned the textures are loaded and you dont see a blurry mess.
So yeah it does help in regards of performance though the PS3 only is opted to use SATA drives.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
5712
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Posted - 2014.01.19 12:13:00 -
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SSD has much faster seek times, so even though the bandwitdh can't be fully utilized on SSD's, it's still a pretty big performance increase.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
5712
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Posted - 2014.01.19 12:24:00 -
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I just ordered a 128GB SSD to replace my 60GB one.
:D
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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demonkiller 12
G.L.O.R.Y Public Disorder.
339
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Posted - 2014.01.19 12:32:00 -
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pyramidhead 420 wrote:Shutter Fly wrote:It makes a big difference. I'm always the first one to spawn in at the start of a game, the first to get any vehicle I might call in, and usually the first to the objective. You can always instantly tell who else has one, because they are walking around the warbarge before the game starts.
Don't waste your money on a pure SSD. A Hybrid drive has much more memory and is much cheaper than a true SSD (almost the same $/GB as a HDD), but it still gives about the same performance.
I got a 1TB SSHD (Solid State Hybrid Drive) off of newegg for a little over $100, much better than the $300-400 you would be spending on a 512GB SSD, or the $600-1000 for a 1TB SSD (Yes, that is a thing). so i can be first to spawn and get my 80 gj scruby before anyone else, for only a few hundred dollars? totally worth it it really is, consider how much money people have spent for aurum, when this will actually help with performance |
kiarbanor
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
288
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:49:00 -
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Very good information.
However, what happens to your PSN contacts or the games you gave downloaded? Are they automatically available once you sign into PSN on the new HD? |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
5735
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:58:00 -
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kiarbanor wrote:Very good information.
However, what happens to your PSN contacts or the games you gave downloaded? Are they automatically available once you sign into PSN on the new HD? yup
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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kiarbanor
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
288
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Posted - 2014.01.19 18:01:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:kiarbanor wrote:Very good information.
However, what happens to your PSN contacts or the games you gave downloaded? Are they automatically available once you sign into PSN on the new HD? yup
Thanks, Cat. |
deezy dabest
Warpoint Sharx
172
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Posted - 2014.01.22 18:38:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:I had considered a SSD for mine before since i have them in my laptop and PC but had forgotten the thought until I saw this thread. I just ordered a samsung 840 series 128gb (same as in my other systems) to drop in.
I will try to remember to report back once it is installed.
Just ran my first few matches on the SSD.
There is a nice difference in transition times, I am now spending about 12-14 seconds in the warbarge and deploy about 5-6 seconds faster than the people who I am squaded with.
I would def recommend the switch not just for Dust but for everything with the ps3
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kiarbanor
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
289
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Posted - 2014.01.22 18:50:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:deezy dabest wrote:I had considered a SSD for mine before since i have them in my laptop and PC but had forgotten the thought until I saw this thread. I just ordered a samsung 840 series 128gb (same as in my other systems) to drop in.
I will try to remember to report back once it is installed. Just ran my first few matches on the SSD. There is a nice difference in transition times, I am now spending about 12-14 seconds in the warbarge and deploy about 5-6 seconds faster than the people who I am squaded with. I would def recommend the switch not just for Dust but for everything with the ps3
Thanks for the update. |
trraacx
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2014.01.22 18:57:00 -
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I have two PS3s in the same room. One with SSD, the other without. Before I had the non-SSD unit to directly compare with I had thought the SSD made a difference in the general smoothness of the game. Now that I have them together the only difference that I can detect is the earlier loading into matches. The boot time and intial game loading times are faster but I don't know that they are $100 worth faster.
If you are really serious about the game the entry time does make a difference. I am almost always the first to a null cannon when they are less than 350 meters out. Since I mostly run alone that often gets me killed, so benefit or not is a little up in the are on that. |
kiarbanor
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
297
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Posted - 2014.01.30 05:18:00 -
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I went with an SSD, and here some initial findings:
I did three different tests, and within each test I did them six times (three before SSD, and three after SSD).
Category 1 was how long it took to boot up my PS3 until my first contact loaded. Before SSD, it took an average of 43 seconds. After SSD, it took an average of 35 seconds. That's 25% faster.
Category 2 was how long did it take from the main menu until I was standing in my Merc room on Dust. Before SSD, it took an average of 1 minute 45 seconds. After SSD, it took an average of 1 minute 31 seconds. That's 10.7% faster.
Category 3 was how long it took to go from the black screen after clicking to enter a skirmish, to spawning off the ground ready to fight. Before SSD, it took an average of 53 seconds. After SSD, it took an average of 35 seconds. That's around 50% faster.
When it was a new match, I was on the warbarge for at least 14 seconds, waiting. Then I was the first on the ground.
I will test more later, but these are interesting. It was very surprising how fast I was into games and on the ground. If you notice when you first spawn in, your weapon has a blue "shimmer" to it as you materialize. With the SSD, you are immediately in the game. No shimmer. No waiting. 10 seconds to spawn is actually 10 seconds.
As for game play, it felt smoother, and my controls seemed more responsive. My strafing felt better, and more people had trouble killing my BPO Dragonfly fitting. We'll see if it was just a good night of gaming or if there truly is a difference. |
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
616
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Posted - 2014.01.30 10:29:00 -
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Is there any particular SSHD hybrid I need to buy for my PS3? I dont know squat about hardware but since i have PSN+ and download a ton of games this sounds like a legit investment, if not purely for the performance boost.
Hints n tips appreciated |
kiarbanor
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
300
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:19:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:Is there any particular SSHD hybrid I need to buy for my PS3? I dont know squat about hardware but since i have PSN+ and download a ton of games this sounds like a legit investment, if not purely for the performance boost. Hints n tips appreciated
I can't give you the best advice because I'm not a computer "guy." But I bought a cheap Toshiba 128gb SSD, and it was very easy to install. I just watched a youtube video on how to do it.
One of our guys just ordered his and is going to do it soon, too. |
deezy dabest
cobra connection Dark Taboo
185
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:35:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:Is there any particular SSHD hybrid I need to buy for my PS3? I dont know squat about hardware but since i have PSN+ and download a ton of games this sounds like a legit investment, if not purely for the performance boost. Hints n tips appreciated
I would recommend not going over 500 GB as paging time on the HD side could offset your performance boost.
Seagate and Western Digital tend to have the best bang for the buck when it comes to quality versus price but I do not have any experience with the hybrids.
Having a nice size external around to do a backup on will save you A LOT of time in downloading your stuff.
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
616
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:58:00 -
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Is there any specific SSHD drive I cant buy because its not compatible with PS3? Hmm am gonna need to find a tutorial on this stuff. |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
327
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:07:00 -
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I have a 500gb HDD in my PS3 that was formerly in my G73jh laptop. I often see the warbarge (sometimes for 18 seconds) and spawn first. It doesn't have any solid state storage devices.
Consider simply buying a faster HDD. The gains of an SSD on the PS3 are greatly limited, largely due to the encryption chip that encrypts and decrypts data to and from the drive is slow. |
MrShooter01
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
476
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:39:00 -
[46] - Quote
Obodiah Garro wrote:Is there any specific SSHD drive I cant buy because its not compatible with PS3? Hmm am gonna need to find a tutorial on this stuff.
Don't get a 3.5 inch (Desktop PC) drive, only 2.5 inch (Laptop PC) drives will fit in any model of PS3
The SSHDs should be compatible with anything that can take a standard HDD, as their unique feature (Identifying frequently used files and copying them to the SSD) is handled entirely by the electronics on the hard drive, not by the computer or device it's connected to.
Though as Eltra is pointing out the feature might offer no benefit to the PS3 whatsoever and just be a pointless extra expense over a standard 2.5 inch drive, in which case get one of those if they're cheaper.
Oh well, at least I can plug it into my laptop or PS4 when I get one |
kiarbanor
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
301
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:08:00 -
[47] - Quote
MrShooter01 wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:Is there any specific SSHD drive I cant buy because its not compatible with PS3? Hmm am gonna need to find a tutorial on this stuff. Don't get a 3.5 inch (Desktop PC) drive, only 2.5 inch (Laptop PC) drives will fit in any model of PS3 The SSHDs should be compatible with anything that can take a standard HDD, as their unique feature (Identifying frequently used files and copying them to the SSD) is handled entirely by the electronics on the hard drive, not by the computer or device it's connected to. Though as Eltra is pointing out the feature might offer no benefit to the PS3 whatsoever and just be a pointless extra expense over a standard 2.5 inch drive, in which case get one of those if they're cheaper. Oh well, at least I can plug it into my laptop or PS4 when I get one
Yeah, I knew getting an SSD was overkill for the PS3, but I figured that I can always take it out and use it for something different in the future.
I don't need a lot of space because I only play 1 game at a time.
Installation of games and stuff are crazy fast. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
2862
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:41:00 -
[48] - Quote
I couldnt care less about load times, just frame rate.
Everyone has numbers on the load times... I want numbers on the frame rate. |
kiarbanor
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
301
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Posted - 2014.01.30 21:38:00 -
[49] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I couldnt care less about load times, just frame rate.
Everyone has numbers on the load times... I want numbers on the frame rate.
How in the world do you get numbers on frame rates? |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
2866
|
Posted - 2014.01.30 22:20:00 -
[50] - Quote
Not sure, I don't claim to be an expert. But they managed to figure it out in this test rather accurately.
There is a topic on another forum I found regarding this as well. |
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deezy dabest
cobra connection Dark Taboo
186
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Posted - 2014.01.30 23:43:00 -
[51] - Quote
kiarbanor wrote: Yeah, I knew getting an SSD was overkill for the PS3, but I figured that I can always take it out and use it for something different in the future. I don't need a lot of space because I only play 1 game at a time. Installation of games and stuff are crazy fast.
The PS3 is not able to match the transfer speeds of a pure SSD but a SSHD does present an advantage system wide by maxing out the transfer speeds of the sata I port.
As far as Dust goes either drive only gets you in the top 2-3 people in battle 100% of the time as well as giving you time in the barge to scout the other side. Dust being server side minimizes any other advantage that may be gained.
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NomaDz 2K
The Rainbow Effect
113
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Posted - 2014.01.31 00:09:00 -
[52] - Quote
" 7200rpm HDDs do provide a small, but significant speed increase to HDD access on the console. Whether this speed increase is worth your extra cash is entirely up to you. The article most quoted is a forum post on the US offical forums GÇô take a read. It's quite interesting.
What about an SSD? Wouldn't that be kickass?
Yeah, it would be. Unfortunately there wouldn't be a significant speed increase from using SSDs. PS3 consoles don't have interface software optimised for SSDs. Definitely not worth the extra cash."
This has been proved. TBH I feel that on the PS3 SSD runs like a 7200RMP HDD Tested and it was virtually the same speed in loading times, so rly only get an SSD if U intend to use it in the future for something else, personally i'd say get a 750GB HDD 7200 RPM which the actual PS3 can handle yes from what I noticed the loading times are faster basically the same as an SSD on the PS3.
"Exchanging the internal drive to a 7200RPM model doesnGÇÖt do much for your loading times (shaves off a second or 2) and upgrading to SSD/Flash Drives is almost insane considering the prices you pay per GB. Any modern larger drive is always faster than the older default smaller drive. Some people are argueing that SSD/Flash Drives produce "much less heat" but consider this: a very good/efficient one uses 5V 0.35A 1.75 Watt while a harddrive uses 5V 0.85A 4.25 Watt. A difference of 2.5W less on a total of 225Watt is not something you would see prominently back on your electric bill or thermometer. Note
There is even report of SDD's sometimes having a negative impact on performance, compared to the original PS3 harddrive. Example: Corsair CSSD F240GBGT BK - which seem to have 4KB sectors (cause?)
Because of the low price/ high storage capacity I personally always go for SATAII/300 7200rpm drives (if internal, maximum height is 9.5mm, 12 or 12.5mm doesnGÇÖt fit) and if modified to external via eSATA you can even use cheaper/faster 3.5GǦ drives (but youGÇÖll need them to have their own powersupply because the internal PS3 powersupply canGÇÖt power that safely). "
Summary The SSD shines when used in PCs , hardware made to really use them, whereas the PS3 can use them but not really optimise them past a 7200 rpm HDD speed wise DUE to the SATA 2 in the PS3. In otherwords SATA 2 transfer rates will not be higher than u get from a SATA 2 drive be it SDD or HDD 7200RPM BUT it will be better than the original PS3 drive which is 5400 RPM.
I just wanted to share this with U
NB IF for Future use, U intend to dump this drive on the PS4 or a PC then U will notice the true difference but rly on the PS3 it's bottle necked due to the SATA 2.
DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514
CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
194
|
Posted - 2014.01.31 01:18:00 -
[53] - Quote
NomaDz 2K wrote:" 7200rpm HDDs do provide a small, but significant speed increase to HDD access on the console. Whether this speed increase is worth your extra cash is entirely up to you. The article most quoted is a forum post on the US offical forums GÇô take a read. It's quite interesting. What about an SSD? Wouldn't that be kickass? Yeah, it would be. Unfortunately there wouldn't be a significant speed increase from using SSDs. PS3 consoles don't have interface software optimised for SSDs. Definitely not worth the extra cash." This has been proved. TBH I feel that on the PS3 SSD runs like a 7200RMP HDD Tested and it was virtually the same speed in loading times, so rly only get an SSD if U intend to use it in the future for something else, personally i'd say get a 750GB HDD 7200 RPM which the actual PS3 can handle yes from what I noticed the loading times are faster basically the same as an SSD on the PS3. "Exchanging the internal drive to a 7200RPM model doesnGÇÖt do much for your loading times (shaves off a second or 2) and upgrading to SSD/Flash Drives is almost insane considering the prices you pay per GB. Any modern larger drive is always faster than the older default smaller drive. Some people are argueing that SSD/Flash Drives produce "much less heat" but consider this: a very good/efficient one uses 5V 0.35A 1.75 Watt while a harddrive uses 5V 0.85A 4.25 Watt. A difference of 2.5W less on a total of 225Watt is not something you would see prominently back on your electric bill or thermometer. Note There is even report of SDD's sometimes having a negative impact on performance, compared to the original PS3 harddrive. Example: Corsair CSSD F240GBGT BK - which seem to have 4KB sectors (cause?) Because of the low price/ high storage capacity I personally always go for SATAII/300 7200rpm drives (if internal, maximum height is 9.5mm, 12 or 12.5mm doesnGÇÖt fit) and if modified to external via eSATA you can even use cheaper/faster 3.5GǦ drives (but youGÇÖll need them to have their own powersupply because the internal PS3 powersupply canGÇÖt power that safely). " Summary The SSD shines when used in PCs , hardware made to really use them, whereas the PS3 can use them but not really optimise them past a 7200 rpm HDD speed wise DUE to the SATA 2 in the PS3. In otherwords SATA 2 transfer rates will not be higher than u get from a SATA 2 drive be it SDD or HDD 7200RPM BUT it will be better than the original PS3 drive which is 5400 RPM. I just wanted to share this with U NB IF for Future use, U intend to dump a SDD drive on the PS4 or a PC then U will notice the true difference but rly on the PS3 it's bottle necked due to the SATA 2. But i'd say wait a while but for now just go with a good Western Digital 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 2 (even if u find SATA 3 just make sure U set the Jumper to run @ SATA 2 speed or u might screw over your drive due to the fact that the PS3 will not accept SATA 3 transfer speed - MAX TRANSFER SPEED is SATA 2. Western Digital 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 2 willl Speed up LOADING times, Texture loading etc and I find that it's as noticable as an SDD drive on the PS3. On the PS4 however , this is where U will notice a BIG difference in loading, installation times etc. BTW a Western Digital 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 2 can be found for less than $70 do U really want to pay $400 for a SDD which provides the same results on the PS3? I can understand doing this if U intend to place it on your PS4 or PC in the future where it will be used to it's full potential . Think about this. Peac3
PS3 is SATA 1 Normal hardrives produce heat because of a number of factors, moving parts for instance. |
Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
1506
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Posted - 2014.01.31 02:33:00 -
[54] - Quote
Shutter Fly wrote:It makes a big difference. I'm always the first one to spawn in at the start of a game, the first to get any vehicle I might call in, and usually the first to the objective. You can always instantly tell who else has one, because they are walking around the warbarge before the game starts.
Don't waste your money on a pure SSD. A Hybrid drive has much more memory and is much cheaper than a true SSD (almost the same $/GB as a HDD), but it still gives about the same performance.
I got a 1TB SSHD (Solid State Hybrid Drive) off of newegg for a little over $100, much better than the $300-400 you would be spending on a 512GB SSD, or the $600-1000 for a 1TB SSD (Yes, that is a thing). I went the hybrid route also.
I can vouch for what Shutter Fly is reporting.
You will load into matches first. With a juiced-up scout you can often hack enemy points before they do, except for their closest letter. Just be very very cautious if Shutter Fly is on the other team ;)
When i installed my SSHD a year ago(maybe more) i noticed that the game got a lot smoother. CCP has done a fair bit of optimization since then so maybe now the difference is not as noticeable, maybe someone who has installed a SSD or SSHD recently can give us some feedback.
Punchline: highly recommended.
I support SP rollover.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1013
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Posted - 2014.01.31 02:39:00 -
[55] - Quote
Vrain Matari wrote:Shutter Fly wrote:It makes a big difference. I'm always the first one to spawn in at the start of a game, the first to get any vehicle I might call in, and usually the first to the objective. You can always instantly tell who else has one, because they are walking around the warbarge before the game starts.
Don't waste your money on a pure SSD. A Hybrid drive has much more memory and is much cheaper than a true SSD (almost the same $/GB as a HDD), but it still gives about the same performance.
I got a 1TB SSHD (Solid State Hybrid Drive) off of newegg for a little over $100, much better than the $300-400 you would be spending on a 512GB SSD, or the $600-1000 for a 1TB SSD (Yes, that is a thing). I went the hybrid route also. I can vouch for what Shutter Fly is reporting. You will load into matches first. With a juiced-up scout you can often hack enemy points before they do, except for their closest letter. When i installed my SSHD a year ago(maybe more) i noticed that the game got a lot smoother. CCP has done a fair bit of optimization since then so maybe now the difference is not as noticeable, maybe someone who has installed a SSD or SSHD recently can give us some feedback. Punchline: highly recommended.
Put a Toshiba 128 GB Q Series PRO SSD in my friends PS3 for him, Cost him 80 bux on sale. Took under 5 mins to reformat and install the PS3 Operating System, Less then 2 minutes to install DUST.
He experienced Massively improved loading times, sometimes walking around in the Warbarge for 20 second on normal public matches. He said his performance felt greatly improved and the game ran smoother.
The biggest thing he noticed for an example of the smoothness difference. When you get the Victory screen at the end of the match and you'll see the frame rate differences as the game smoothes out on the normal HDD, it never was the case with the SSD, it was always smooth in the game to victory screen transition.
Also makes the ps3 so quiet. |
kiarbanor
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
301
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Posted - 2014.01.31 04:23:00 -
[56] - Quote
Bethhy wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:Shutter Fly wrote:It makes a big difference. I'm always the first one to spawn in at the start of a game, the first to get any vehicle I might call in, and usually the first to the objective. You can always instantly tell who else has one, because they are walking around the warbarge before the game starts.
Don't waste your money on a pure SSD. A Hybrid drive has much more memory and is much cheaper than a true SSD (almost the same $/GB as a HDD), but it still gives about the same performance.
I got a 1TB SSHD (Solid State Hybrid Drive) off of newegg for a little over $100, much better than the $300-400 you would be spending on a 512GB SSD, or the $600-1000 for a 1TB SSD (Yes, that is a thing). I went the hybrid route also. I can vouch for what Shutter Fly is reporting. You will load into matches first. With a juiced-up scout you can often hack enemy points before they do, except for their closest letter. When i installed my SSHD a year ago(maybe more) i noticed that the game got a lot smoother. CCP has done a fair bit of optimization since then so maybe now the difference is not as noticeable, maybe someone who has installed a SSD or SSHD recently can give us some feedback. Punchline: highly recommended. Put a Toshiba 128 GB Q Series PRO SSD in my friends PS3 for him, Cost him 80 bux on sale. Took under 5 mins to reformat and install the PS3 Operating System, Less then 2 minutes to install DUST. He experienced Massively improved loading times, sometimes walking around in the Warbarge for 20 second on normal public matches. He said his performance felt greatly improved and the game ran smoother. The biggest thing he noticed for an example of the smoothness difference. When you get the Victory screen at the end of the match and you'll see the frame rate differences as the game smoothes out on the normal HDD, it never was the case with the SSD, it was always smooth in the game to victory screen transition. Also makes the ps3 so quiet.
Yep, I think my SSD is the exact same, and I'm having the exact same results. |
NomaDz 2K
The Rainbow Effect
114
|
Posted - 2014.01.31 12:48:00 -
[57] - Quote
Happy Violentime wrote:NomaDz 2K wrote:" 7200rpm HDDs do provide a small, but significant speed increase to HDD access on the console. Whether this speed increase is worth your extra cash is entirely up to you. The article most quoted is a forum post on the US offical forums GÇô take a read. It's quite interesting. What about an SSD? Wouldn't that be kickass? Yeah, it would be. Unfortunately there wouldn't be a significant speed increase from using SSDs. PS3 consoles don't have interface software optimised for SSDs. Definitely not worth the extra cash." This has been proved. TBH I feel that on the PS3 SSD runs like a 7200RMP HDD Tested and it was virtually the same speed in loading times, so rly only get an SSD if U intend to use it in the future for something else, personally i'd say get a 750GB HDD 7200 RPM which the actual PS3 can handle yes from what I noticed the loading times are faster basically the same as an SSD on the PS3. "Exchanging the internal drive to a 7200RPM model doesnGÇÖt do much for your loading times (shaves off a second or 2) and upgrading to SSD/Flash Drives is almost insane considering the prices you pay per GB. Any modern larger drive is always faster than the older default smaller drive. Some people are argueing that SSD/Flash Drives produce "much less heat" but consider this: a very good/efficient one uses 5V 0.35A 1.75 Watt while a harddrive uses 5V 0.85A 4.25 Watt. A difference of 2.5W less on a total of 225Watt is not something you would see prominently back on your electric bill or thermometer. Note There is even report of SDD's sometimes having a negative impact on performance, compared to the original PS3 harddrive. Example: Corsair CSSD F240GBGT BK - which seem to have 4KB sectors (cause?) Because of the low price/ high storage capacity I personally always go for SATAII/300 7200rpm drives (if internal, maximum height is 9.5mm, 12 or 12.5mm doesnGÇÖt fit) and if modified to external via eSATA you can even use cheaper/faster 3.5GǦ drives (but youGÇÖll need them to have their own powersupply because the internal PS3 powersupply canGÇÖt power that safely). " Summary The SSD shines when used in PCs , hardware made to really use them, whereas the PS3 can use them but not really optimise them past a 7200 rpm HDD speed wise DUE to the SATA 2 in the PS3. In otherwords SATA 2 transfer rates will not be higher than u get from a SATA 2 drive be it SDD or HDD 7200RPM BUT it will be better than the original PS3 drive which is 5400 RPM. I just wanted to share this with U NB IF for Future use, U intend to dump a SDD drive on the PS4 or a PC then U will notice the true difference but rly on the PS3 it's bottle necked due to the SATA 2. But i'd say wait a while but for now just go with a good Western Digital 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 2 (even if u find SATA 3 just make sure U set the Jumper to run @ SATA 2 speed or u might screw over your drive due to the fact that the PS3 will not accept SATA 3 transfer speed - MAX TRANSFER SPEED is SATA 2. Western Digital 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 2 willl Speed up LOADING times, Texture loading etc and I find that it's as noticable as an SDD drive on the PS3. On the PS4 however , this is where U will notice a BIG difference in loading, installation times etc. BTW a Western Digital 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 2 can be found for less than $70 do U really want to pay $400 for a SDD which provides the same results on the PS3? I can understand doing this if U intend to place it on your PS4 or PC in the future where it will be used to it's full potential . Think about this. Peac3 PS3 is SATA 1 Normal hardrives produce heat because of a number of factors, moving parts for instance.
Yep my Bad , the PS3 has a SATA-150 controller, SATA 2 and 3 is backward compatible, the heat factor isn't much and doesn't effect the PS3.
DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514
CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
2871
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:17:00 -
[58] - Quote
hmm... so, hybrid or ssd... that is the question... |
Vag Eye Lenol
Planetary Asset Protection Services
27
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:01:00 -
[59] - Quote
I'll share my experiences with my sshd that I've just installed.
World of a difference I would say. I went with a 500gb seagate sshd, didn't want to put too much money into a dying machine (hint hint CCP, *cough* PS4 *cough*) Noticed faster menus within the OS itself, DL and install went pretty quick/smooth.
Loaded up dust and guess what... I went into battle... I was surprised that I was loaded into the warbage room with a 15 sec counter before the match. I thought that maybe I selected the wrong match and jumped into a FW match. But nope, it was an ambush. After the counter I loaded into the match, pulled a 360 turn, and to my surprise, no one was there for just under 10 sec.
Another match was a DOM, same thing, I was able to call in my dropship and fly away as the next team mates just popped up on radar.
Given the significant price difference between SSD and SSHD, I would recommend the latter. |
NomaDz 2K
The Rainbow Effect
114
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:14:00 -
[60] - Quote
Vag Eye Lenol wrote:I'll share my experiences with my sshd that I've just installed.
World of a difference I would say. I went with a 500gb seagate sshd, didn't want to put too much money into a dying machine (hint hint CCP, *cough* PS4 *cough*) Noticed faster menus within the OS itself, DL and install went pretty quick/smooth.
Loaded up dust and guess what... I went into battle... I was surprised that I was loaded into the warbage room with a 15 sec counter before the match. I thought that maybe I selected the wrong match and jumped into a FW match. But nope, it was an ambush. After the counter I loaded into the match, pulled a 360 turn, and to my surprise, no one was there for just under 10 sec.
Another match was a DOM, same thing, I was able to call in my dropship and fly away as the next team mates just popped up on radar.
Given the significant price difference between SSD and SSHD, I would recommend the latter.
Yep for the way SSHD and SSD works on the PS3 no point in getting a SSD unless U intend to dump it on a PC or PS4.
DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514
CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1112
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:38:00 -
[61] - Quote
deezy dabest wrote: I would recommend not going over 500 GB as paging time on the HD side could offset your performance boost.
higher density actually increase the access rates
Bethhy wrote:
Put a Toshiba 128 GB Q Series PRO SSD in my friends PS3 for him, Cost him 80 bux on sale. Took under 5 mins to reformat and install the PS3 Operating System, Less then 2 minutes to install DUST.
He experienced Massively improved loading times, sometimes walking around in the Warbarge for 20 second on normal public matches. He said his performance felt greatly improved and the game ran smoother.
The biggest thing he noticed for an example of the smoothness difference. When you get the Victory screen at the end of the match and you'll see the frame rate differences as the game smoothes out on the normal HDD, it never was the case with the SSD, it was always smooth in the game to victory screen transition.
Also makes the ps3 so quiet.
a hybrid drive will be as fast as the solid state drive and you will still have the big storage volume of a regular drive for less money. also SSDs do not like high amounts of read and write attempts, the ps3 might tear out the SSD in a few months because the OS is not optimized for it.
I can only repeat what I said, SSD is slightly faster than regular harddrive for massive overinvestment. PS3 uses SATA I port, the OS does not support SSDs and the motherboard harddrive controller also cannot utilizize the fast transfer rates of the SSD. a hybrid drive will be just as fast as the SSD, you get boosted performance that does not rely on the OS and motherboard because it is handled internally by the harddrive firmware and the flash module inside it. you will save alot of money and get the best of both worlds. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1041
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Posted - 2014.02.01 19:45:00 -
[62] - Quote
seems to kinda fit.
I don't know about GTA5, but in general SSD would be faster than a normal HDD + BluRay. PS3 uses SATA1, which provides a bandwidth of maximum 150 MB/s(SATA2 allows 300 MB/s and more modern SATA3 provides 600 MB/s bantwidth).
HDD used in PS3 slim reads at 65 MB/s and BluRay at around 9 MB/s(all PS3 models use 2x speed BluRay drives). That sums up to 74 MB/s read speed, which is almost a half of SATA1. If you run solely from an SSD you will achieve these 150 MB/s, which is twice as fast as HDD + Bluray.
And I say that running from an SSD will grant you 150 MB/s because of SATA1 limitations, despite the fact that modern SSDs do have both read and write speed of over 500 MB/s |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
2885
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Posted - 2014.02.01 20:17:00 -
[63] - Quote
Hybrid it is, then. |
Shiruba Ryou
Molon Labe.
186
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Posted - 2014.02.01 20:55:00 -
[64] - Quote
Bethhy wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1o1I1zb8gU
Its Huge in FF14 with render times, it helps massively with frame rates in skyrim.. but it only helps with load times in DUST ;)
^ This is the only reason I'm getting one for my eventual PS4. Since I bought the PS3 CE of FFXIV I get the PS4 version free when it releases. So I'll be saving up for a PS4 and an SSHD for it. So if DUST ever moves over to PS4 then I'll be set indirectly. I personally don't think its worth it for DUST. Advantageous sure, but my bullets will hit you all the same with or without it. That's my opinion though. Nothing more.
"Not to worry. The cards say you loved it."
- Ryoutoshi
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
2885
|
Posted - 2014.02.01 20:56:00 -
[65] - Quote
Shiruba Ryou wrote:Bethhy wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1o1I1zb8gU
Its Huge in FF14 with render times, it helps massively with frame rates in skyrim.. but it only helps with load times in DUST ;) ^ This is the only reason I'm getting one for my eventual PS4. Since I bought the PS3 CE of FFXIV I get the PS4 version free when it releases. So I'll be saving up for a PS4 and an SSHD for it. So if DUST ever moves over to PS4 then I'll be set indirectly. I personally don't think its worth it for DUST. Advantageous sure, but my bullets will hit you all the same with or without it. That's my opinion though. Nothing more.
Will they though? Will they really? |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2977
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Posted - 2014.02.01 21:16:00 -
[66] - Quote
You would think that PS4 is the second coming of Jesus to some folks.
But I want a SSD. I'm realizing the competitive benefits of it.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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kiarbanor
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
304
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Posted - 2014.02.02 01:12:00 -
[67] - Quote
The game still seems to run smoother for me with the SSD. And when my squad is yelling about rubber banding or lag, I can tell something is going on, but I'm not nearly as affected. |
NomaDz 2K
The Rainbow Effect
114
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Posted - 2014.02.02 04:31:00 -
[68] - Quote
Shiruba Ryou wrote:Bethhy wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1o1I1zb8gU
Its Huge in FF14 with render times, it helps massively with frame rates in skyrim.. but it only helps with load times in DUST ;) ^ This is the only reason I'm getting one for my eventual PS4. Since I bought the PS3 CE of FFXIV I get the PS4 version free when it releases. So I'll be saving up for a PS4 and an SSHD for it. So if DUST ever moves over to PS4 then I'll be set indirectly. I personally don't think its worth it for DUST. Advantageous sure, but my bullets will hit you all the same with or without it. That's my opinion though. Nothing more. Seagate 1TB Solid State Hybrid Drive SATA 6Gbps 64MB Cache 2.5-Inch ST1000LM014 is might only be 5400RPM but being a Hybrid it's pretty good and cheap $100
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Solid-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-ST1000LM014/dp/B00B99JUBQ
It's better than a HDD and not as fast as a pure SSD but 1T which works well as a Hybrid SSHD for ONLY $100 is decent
DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514
CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1112
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Posted - 2014.02.02 06:49:00 -
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NomaDz 2K wrote:Seagate 1TB Solid State Hybrid Drive SATA 6Gbps 64MB Cache 2.5-Inch ST1000LM014 is might only be 5400RPM but being a Hybrid it's pretty good and cheap $100 http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Solid-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-ST1000LM014/dp/B00B99JUBQIt's better than a HDD and not as fast as a pure SSD but 1T which works well as a Hybrid SSHD for ONLY $100 is decent, it's worth considering for the PS4 since the PS4 has a 500GB 5400RPM HDD on the ps3 with the sata1, lack of OS support and with the old motherboard it is as fast as the SSD.
and btw 5400 is perfect for this drive because it would not get higher transfer speeds with more anyway. it does not need more than 5400rpm because this drive has very high density and if I am not mistaken this drive is one with the highest areal density that you can currently get. lower RPM also has other nice sideffects, like higher lifetime, better temps and power consumption. |
NomaDz 2K
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.02.02 21:50:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:NomaDz 2K wrote:Seagate 1TB Solid State Hybrid Drive SATA 6Gbps 64MB Cache 2.5-Inch ST1000LM014 is might only be 5400RPM but being a Hybrid it's pretty good and cheap $100 http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Solid-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-ST1000LM014/dp/B00B99JUBQIt's better than a HDD and not as fast as a pure SSD but 1T which works well as a Hybrid SSHD for ONLY $100 is decent, it's worth considering for the PS4 since the PS4 has a 500GB 5400RPM HDD on the ps3 with the sata1, lack of OS support and with the old motherboard it is as fast as the SSD. and btw 5400 is perfect for this drive because it would not get higher transfer speeds with more anyway. it does not need more than 5400rpm because this drive has very high density and if I am not mistaken this drive is one with the highest areal density that you can currently get. lower RPM also has other nice sideffects, like higher lifetime, better temps and power consumption.
Ye but this one is more for the PS4 even if fine for the PS3 , U X on the PS4 most games are 40+ GB in size, 1TB will be useful
DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514
CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
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NomaDz 2K
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.02.02 21:52:00 -
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Here is the Review : http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=seagate_sshd_linux&num=3
Not the Best but worth it for that which it provides
DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514
CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
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