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kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 285	Posted - 2014.01.18 16:24:00 - [1] - Quote What does an SSD do for Dust? I've heard people that have switched over to an SSD load into matches quicker. I understand computers, but can someone please explain the benefits of an SSD with Dust. Happy Gaming!!!
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2538	Posted - 2014.01.18 16:27:00 - [2] - Quote You can load into matches before everyone else and sometimes you get time on the warbarge to see who your playing before you deploy. Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Subdreddit Recruitment Video Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 71	Posted - 2014.01.18 16:30:00 - [3] - Quote I have a Hybrid drive 750GB which works wonders. The entire PS3 system feels more quick and responsive, and I do believe the loading times in Dust becomes shorter. (I am usually one of the first to hit the ground) Don't think you gain anything with a pure SSD, and I need big memory for PS+
kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 285	Posted - 2014.01.18 16:30:00 - [4] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: You can load into matches before everyone else and sometimes you get time on the warbarge to see who your playing before you deploy. It doesn't allow smoother movement within the game or anything else?
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 865	Posted - 2014.01.18 16:34:00 - [5] - Quote Textures load way faster.. faster load times.. PS3 sux for memory.. SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference... On a PS3 where most developers use the ps3's hard drive for tricks to get around the memory problems it makes massive differences in almost all gaming situations on it...
kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 285	Posted - 2014.01.18 16:37:00 - [6] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Textures load way faster.. faster load times.. PS3 sux for memory.. SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference... On a PS3 where most developers use the ps3's hard drive for tricks to get around the memory problems it makes massive differences in almost all gaming situations on it... So, what happens to all your contacts and games on your old hard drive? Are they attached to your PSN account or something?
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 865	Posted - 2014.01.18 16:37:00 - [7] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuKRH0aHRM Good to look at what it does to Skyrim frame rates... some say it applies here i still have massive frame rate issues in DUST regardless.
Asirius Medaius 801	Posted - 2014.01.18 16:39:00 - [8] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Textures load way faster.. faster load times.. PS3 sux for memory.. SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference... Either you were trolled with that information, or you are a complete idiot who has no idea what you are talking about. Signature coming soonGäó. [Level 9 Forum Warrior]
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 865	Posted - 2014.01.18 16:48:00 - [9] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: Bethhy wrote: Textures load way faster.. faster load times.. PS3 sux for memory.. SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference... Either you were trolled with that information, or you are a complete idiot who has no idea what you are talking about. Seeing is believing.. A lot of people would be wrong on that account of your so informative post. Meh i've done my own personal tests with capture card as far as DUST and many games on the ps3.
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 209	Posted - 2014.01.18 16:49:00 - [10] - Quote It makes a big difference. I'm always the first one to spawn in at the start of a game, the first to get any vehicle I might call in, and usually the first to the objective. You can always instantly tell who else has one, because they are walking around the warbarge before the game starts. Don't waste your money on a pure SSD. A Hybrid drive has much more memory and is much cheaper than a true SSD (almost the same $/GB as a HDD), but it still gives about the same performance. I got a 1TB SSHD (Solid State Hybrid Drive) off of newegg for a little over $100, much better than the $300-400 you would be spending on a 512GB SSD, or the $600-1000 for a 1TB SSD (Yes, that is a thing).

pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 289	Posted - 2014.01.18 16:55:00 - [11] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: Bethhy wrote: Textures load way faster.. faster load times.. PS3 sux for memory.. SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference... Either you were trolled with that information, or you are a complete idiot who has no idea what you are talking about. this^ its like putting a porsche engine, in a beat up, rusty, 87' ford van. the performance will not out way, the cost
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 289	Posted - 2014.01.18 16:58:00 - [12] - Quote Shutter Fly wrote: It makes a big difference. I'm always the first one to spawn in at the start of a game, the first to get any vehicle I might call in, and usually the first to the objective. You can always instantly tell who else has one, because they are walking around the warbarge before the game starts. Don't waste your money on a pure SSD. A Hybrid drive has much more memory and is much cheaper than a true SSD (almost the same $/GB as a HDD), but it still gives about the same performance. I got a 1TB SSHD (Solid State Hybrid Drive) off of newegg for a little over $100, much better than the $300-400 you would be spending on a 512GB SSD, or the $600-1000 for a 1TB SSD (Yes, that is a thing). so i can be first to spawn and get my 80 gj scruby before anyone else, for only a few hundred dollars? totally worth it
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 865	Posted - 2014.01.18 17:08:00 - [13] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: Asirius Medaius wrote: Bethhy wrote: Textures load way faster.. faster load times.. PS3 sux for memory.. SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference... Either you were trolled with that information, or you are a complete idiot who has no idea what you are talking about. this^ its like putting a porsche engine, in a beat up, rusty, 87' ford van. the performance will not out way, the cost This will pretty much be the pattern of posts about the SSD in any platform echoed over the internet. Some have seen the changes and believe in them and some people have tried it themselfs and saw no difference for how they play games. there are people who swear by them and people who will spend all day saying it makes no significant difference and the PS3 will never benefit much from a SSD. shrugs i just know my experiences with it.
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 209	Posted - 2014.01.18 17:16:00 - [14] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: Shutter Fly wrote: It makes a big difference. I'm always the first one to spawn in at the start of a game, the first to get any vehicle I might call in, and usually the first to the objective. You can always instantly tell who else has one, because they are walking around the warbarge before the game starts. Don't waste your money on a pure SSD. A Hybrid drive has much more memory and is much cheaper than a true SSD (almost the same $/GB as a HDD), but it still gives about the same performance. I got a 1TB SSHD (Solid State Hybrid Drive) off of newegg for a little over $100, much better than the $300-400 you would be spending on a 512GB SSD, or the $600-1000 for a 1TB SSD (Yes, that is a thing). so i can be first to spawn and get my 80 gj scruby before anyone else, for only a few hundred dollars? totally worth it Pretty much, and yes, I do feel that it was worth it. It gives a distinct advantage, especially in PC where it really counts. Besides, it isn't like the drive is hard soldered into the PS3 once it's in there. If I ever get a PS4, I can swap it out and never have to worry about HDD space for as long as I own it.
Asirius Medaius 802	Posted - 2014.01.18 17:17:00 - [15] - Quote Bethhy wrote: pyramidhead 420 wrote: Asirius Medaius wrote: Bethhy wrote: Textures load way faster.. faster load times.. PS3 sux for memory.. SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference... Either you were trolled with that information, or you are a complete idiot who has no idea what you are talking about. this^ its like putting a porsche engine, in a beat up, rusty, 87' ford van. the performance will not out way, the cost This will pretty much be the pattern of posts about the SSD in any platform echoed over the internet. Some have seen the changes and believe in them and some people have tried it themselfs and saw no difference for how they play games. there are people who swear by them and people who will spend all day saying it makes no significant difference and the PS3 will never benefit much from a SSD. shrugs i just know my experiences with it. I'm not talking about your argument with the PS3 and the SSD; I'm talking about SSDs in a PC. The only way you would see no difference, is if you put a SSD in a SATA 2 port, or if you are so brain-dead that you can't tell the difference in large chunks of time being hastened. When you talk about PC's, don't act like you know what you are talking about. There are people on this forum who came from EVE Online who know a great deal more about hardware than dustbunnies like you. Signature coming soonGäó. [Level 9 Forum Warrior]
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 446	Posted - 2014.01.18 17:27:00 - [16] - Quote Shutter Fly wrote: It makes a big difference. I'm always the first one to spawn in at the start of a game, the first to get any vehicle I might call in, and usually the first to the objective. You can always instantly tell who else has one, because they are walking around the warbarge before the game starts. Don't waste your money on a pure SSD. A Hybrid drive has much more memory and is much cheaper than a true SSD (almost the same $/GB as a HDD), but it still gives about the same performance. I got a 1TB SSHD (Solid State Hybrid Drive) off of newegg for a little over $100, much better than the $300-400 you would be spending on a 512GB SSD, or the $600-1000 for a 1TB SSD (Yes, that is a thing). I got this 500gb SSHD last year, haven't regretted it. Ive got just about every digital game from a year and a half of PS+ installed on it, including real storage hogs like uncharted 3 and the last of us, and I still have 75gb of free space remaining. Not bad for $80. I always see the warbarge for about 10 seconds in every public match too, which I didn't even realize was unusual until someone asked if I was running a SSD
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2710	Posted - 2014.01.18 17:27:00 - [17] - Quote The main advantage is deploying a few seconds before everyone else.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5675	Posted - 2014.01.18 17:29:00 - [18] - Quote I have an SSD in my PS3 It's beautfiul. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 50	Posted - 2014.01.18 17:29:00 - [19] - Quote The only reason you will notice performance improvements by adding a SSD is down to load times. However a PS3 will not fully utilise the performance an SSD drive can bring to the table. SSD drives and even just a faster 7200RPM laptop drive will increase performance compared to the standard drive in your PS3. Bare in mind that RAM is a premium on the PS3 as well as other things like bandwidth so you will never get the performance levels that much better from bog standard. SSD has been known to fix problems, reduce wait times and in the case of DUST many people report being able to load into the game some seconds earlier. Remember though that DUST has no disc, it runs solely from the saved information on your hard drive so unlike some other games it may benefit more than most when it comes to texture loading and game load times. However it will not miraculously cure lag and or make your frame rate improve ten fold. Actually that's a good point - has anyone noticed increased frame rates from adding in an SSD or anything after-market like that? I would assume not but there is the possibility.
JL3Eleven 1582	Posted - 2014.01.18 17:34:00 - [20] - Quote I have an SSHD and it is well worth it. (It helps greatly on Skyrim!) It use to be in Beta you had a 30 second head start over everyone without one. Now it's around a 5 second head start. Supercorp: A corporation with the ability to shape and control events and project power on a New Eden-wide scale.

Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 865	Posted - 2014.01.18 17:41:00 - [21] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1o1I1zb8gU Its Huge in FF14 with render times, it helps massively with frame rates in skyrim.. but it only helps with load times in DUST ;)
Jungian Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 293	Posted - 2014.01.18 17:44:00 - [22] - Quote Bethhy wrote: SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference... The level of ignorance is strong in this one. Just saying, Arma III loads in 5 seconds on my SSD, compared to 20 seconds on HDD. And it certainly helps with texture loads too. What makes you say it doesnt make that huge of a difference on PC? like, wtf? http://www.twitch.tv/rnd_jungian/ In New Eden no one can hear you whine.
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 52	Posted - 2014.01.18 17:55:00 - [23] - Quote Jungian wrote: Bethhy wrote: SSD on a high end PC gaming machine doesn't make that huge of a difference... The level of ignorance is strong in this one. Just saying, Arma III loads in 5 seconds on my SSD, compared to 20 seconds on HDD. And it certainly helps with texture loads too. What makes you say it doesnt make that huge of a difference on PC? like, wtf? I have to agree with Jungian here Bethhy. If anything the difference is much less pronounced on the PS3 than the PC as the PC can use all available bandwidth and store anything needed into the 10`s of gigs of super fast RAM available on PC`s now a days while the 256mb of paltry memory available on a PS3 will struggle to benefit as much.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2245	Posted - 2014.01.18 18:03:00 - [24] - Quote So SSD or SSHD? Intelligence is OP
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 61	Posted - 2014.01.18 18:16:00 - [25] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: When you talk about PC's, don't act like you know what you are talking about. There are people on this forum who came from EVE Online who know a great deal more about hardware than dustbunnies like you. I don't think that an EVE background qualifies you for PC knowledge. But I guess it's better than making the same claim about any other type of MMO player - At least for EVE I can kind of believe it. I'm a dustbunny and I know enough about PCs to know that the dude is talking bullshit, though. The PS3 is not intended to utilize SSDs and thus gains barely any gains from it. I've seen a few tests and I'm surprised that there are specific titles that do profit from it. Well, I'm actually not surprised at the Skyrim gains due to the specific issues with Skyrim (Namely Bethesda using an engine with a bug that has already existed in Oblivion and not bothering to fix it. It causes save file sizes to explode, but isn't all that visible on PC (Due to huge amounts of disposable memory) and Xbox (Because it's the lead platform). If you bought Skyrim for PS3, you should be eligible for a Darwin Award and shot for supporting crimes against gaming.) A PC, meanwhile, can reach sub-10 seconds boot times with an SSD. Especially on Windows 8 you'll get extreme performance increases across the board, (Especially at boot, due to its semi-hibernate nature) because it seems to utilize the HDD more than Windows 7. The HDD on my notebook seems to be the bottleneck since I upgraded, while the OS itself is less bloated than the prior version. @Anon Cerberus: Actually, shouldn't smaller memory make an SSD more useful? (Let's pretend that the PS3 was actually making use of that upgrade) If your memory is full, you can save to HDD for access. With an SSD that access should be quite a bit faster - It's basically very slow RAM. With huge amounts of RAM, you can just load your memory full and never use the HDD after the initial loading is done. Actually, which kind of RAM does the PS3 use? The system is about eight years old, after all. I wouldn't be surprised if, by now, SSDs are faster than the RAM that was used back then. Would be quite funny. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that it didn't use cheap standard RAM. Back then RAM speed was a bigger concern than RAM size.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1068	Posted - 2014.01.18 18:42:00 - [26] - Quote SSD does nothing for Dust, it is slightly faster than regular harddrive for massive overinvestment. PS3 uses SATA I port, the OS does not support SSDs and the motherboard harddrive controller also cannot utilizize the fast transfer rates of the SSD. in fact a hybrid drive will be just as fast as the SSD and you will save alot of money.
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 72	Posted - 2014.01.19 08:48:00 - [27] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: SSD does nothing for Dust, it is slightly faster than regular harddrive for massive overinvestment. PS3 uses SATA I port, the OS does not support SSDs and the motherboard harddrive controller also cannot utilizize the fast transfer rates of the SSD. in fact a hybrid drive will be just as fast as the SSD and you will save alot of money. I would not say an SSD it does nothing, but I agree a hybrid is the way to go with PS3. As stated, due to SATA I it is not particular faster in transfer rate compared to a normal HDD, but you gain a lot in search times. (It's really with SATA II or III an SSD really starts to shine) I got a Seagate Momentux XT 750GB Hybrid drive with 8GB SSD built in. Never regretted a second,
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1546	Posted - 2014.01.19 08:59:00 - [28] - Quote A hybrid drive makes a huge difference in dust. I've had guys in my squad spawn in 10 seconds before anyone else on the team. If you've got proto uplinks and a scout suit, just think of what that does for your team. We ran into this a lot early in PC, most of the teams we'd fight would be to the middle of the map with links all over by the time we got out of our redline. The reason is that the ps3 doesn't have enough ram for the job, so they use a swap file on the hd to make up for it. A fast seek and big cache absolutely makes a difference.
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 160	Posted - 2014.01.19 09:51:00 - [29] - Quote I had considered a SSD for mine before since i have them in my laptop and PC but had forgotten the thought until I saw this thread. I just ordered a samsung 840 series 128gb (same as in my other systems) to drop in. I will try to remember to report back once it is installed.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 2092	Posted - 2014.01.19 11:29:00 - [30] - Quote Ive got a SSD since the closed beta. Back then it was a huge step forward by faster loading times, much better framerate (flying a dropship wihout was allmost impossible without crashing the game) and textures load aswell quicker which means once you spawned the textures are loaded and you dont see a blurry mess. So yeah it does help in regards of performance though the PS3 only is opted to use SATA drives. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun



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