DUST Search - Now that we have racial suits

Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:

Outer Raven wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

After this launch, racial vehicles seems like the next logical step. And I do expect a respec to be given.

After this infantry revamp I bet there will be no more respecs for a very very long time. Due to only new content being added from here on out, unless they give us the ability to buy respecs outright when ever we want. Ugh

Only new content after this infantry revamp? Here's some basic, delayed content we're still missing if 1.8 introduces all the racial dropsuits and the MAGSEC SMG and Ion Pistol.

Amarr and Minmatar HAVs

All four racial MAVs

Amarr and Minmatar dropships

All four racial light and heavy Aircraft

Amarr and Minmatar small and large turrets, plus a second type of missile launcher

Missing most racial short and long range heavy weapons

Missing most racial short and long range sidearms

Missing all(most, if you count the scanner and scan mods - I don't) racial EWAR

That's the BASIC content that DUST should have launched with (with the exception of maybe EWAR.) Everything after that would be new, like features to further integrate EVE and DUST, new roles bonused suits and vehicles, new weapons, new game modes, etc.

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Pete B Blood Unit 13 Zero-Day 79	Posted - 2014.01.17 20:14:00 - [1] - Quote When are racial vehicles on their way? And are we getting a Dropsuit Command respec?
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 979	Posted - 2014.01.17 20:18:00 - [2] - Quote I bet people are going to just hate this topic because you mentioned vehicles and something positive. Prt SL, SCR, SR . ADV FGs, MDs, LaZor, KNs. Gunnlogi, Falchion, Python, Caldari LDS. (+require) Prt L. Am, Adv HVY, LGS
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1578	Posted - 2014.01.17 20:21:00 - [3] - Quote Likely soon I imagine. CCP seems to be making a strong push to fill out the missing racial gaps for all facets of gameplay. And I think almost everyone agrees that an infantry respec is guaranteed for 1.8 1.8 Analysis - Sentinel Damage Efficiency Calcs
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6484	Posted - 2014.01.17 20:23:00 - [4] - Quote Pete B wrote: When are racial vehicles on their way? And are we getting a Dropsuit Command respec? From the looks of it, it seems highly likely. 1. Bonuses are being rearranged. 2. Racial sentinels, commandos and scouts that didn't exist before are now going to be available. 3. Slots being changed for scouts. Even without the skill tree overhaul, there are enough changes and additions to the suits alone that releasing them without a respec will ** off a lot of people. For starters, it looks like logistics are losing their hacking bonus to the scouts. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD**
Pete B Blood Unit 13 Zero-Day 80	Posted - 2014.01.17 20:30:00 - [5] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Pete B wrote: When are racial vehicles on their way? And are we getting a Dropsuit Command respec? From the looks of it, it seems highly likely. 1. Bonuses are being rearranged. 2. Racial sentinels, commandos and scouts that didn't exist before are now going to be available. 3. Slots being changed for scouts. Even without the skill tree overhaul, there are enough changes and additions to the suits alone that releasing them without a respec will **** off a lot of people. For starters, it looks like logistics are losing their hacking bonus to the scouts. Understandable that a scout should hack faster than a logistics, but what I'm more annoyed about is losing the base armour repair. I can hardly justify it, tbh, and it would be easier to justify if it was on something like a sentinel, but its still annoying.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1579	Posted - 2014.01.17 20:31:00 - [6] - Quote Pete B wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Pete B wrote: When are racial vehicles on their way? And are we getting a Dropsuit Command respec? From the looks of it, it seems highly likely. 1. Bonuses are being rearranged. 2. Racial sentinels, commandos and scouts that didn't exist before are now going to be available. 3. Slots being changed for scouts. Even without the skill tree overhaul, there are enough changes and additions to the suits alone that releasing them without a respec will **** off a lot of people. For starters, it looks like logistics are losing their hacking bonus to the scouts. Understandable that a scout should hack faster than a logistics, but what I'm more annoyed about is losing the base armour repair. I can hardly justify it, tbh, and it would be easier to justify if it was on something like a sentinel, but its still annoying. Would not suprise me if Gallente and Amarr Assaults and Logistics end up with a built in repair of 1-2HP/sec 1.8 Analysis - Sentinel Damage Efficiency Calcs
Criteria Shipment Blood Unit 13 Zero-Day 722	Posted - 2014.01.17 20:35:00 - [7] - Quote More importantly... when will our profile pics change... Goodbye, world! (püú-ÿ+í-ÿ-é)
Tectonic Fusion 976	Posted - 2014.01.17 20:36:00 - [8] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Pete B wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Pete B wrote: When are racial vehicles on their way? And are we getting a Dropsuit Command respec? From the looks of it, it seems highly likely. 1. Bonuses are being rearranged. 2. Racial sentinels, commandos and scouts that didn't exist before are now going to be available. 3. Slots being changed for scouts. Even without the skill tree overhaul, there are enough changes and additions to the suits alone that releasing them without a respec will ** off a lot of people. For starters, it looks like logistics are losing their hacking bonus to the scouts. Understandable that a scout should hack faster than a logistics, but what I'm more annoyed about is losing the base armour repair. I can hardly justify it, tbh, and it would be easier to justify if it was on something like a sentinel, but its still annoying. Would not suprise me if Gallente and Amarr Assaults and Logistics end up with a built in repair of 1-2HP/sec Amarr and gallente suits should get a built in enhanced armor reppers. Solo Player Squad status: Locked**
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 293	Posted - 2014.01.17 20:36:00 - [9] - Quote Pete B wrote: When are racial vehicles on their way? And are we getting a Dropsuit Command respec? Full respec. Not only skills has changed ALL the stats suits has changed. Not just here and there but EVERYTHING (look the new stats of sentinel and commandos). The core mechanics of some dropsuits has changed.
Outer Raven WarRavens League of Infamy 150	Posted - 2014.01.17 20:51:00 - [10] - Quote 1.7 was mainly vehicle rebalance, 1.8 was for infantry, so if 1.8 doesn't contain any or all of the new suits 1.9 will probably do so along with some aforementioned vehicles and player market if 1.8 do not have it. I'm guessing 2.0 before we hear about PC 2.0 maybe fighters and hover bikes, these are all some lofty guesses though might be surprised with a "soon" here and there instead of a "soon TM". ___-öGûêGûêGêƒ________________ GûêGûêGûêGòÜGûêa»½GòáGûê Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ GûÆ PEW ¯¯GùÑGò¥GûêGûêGùñ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

Outer Raven WarRavens League of Infamy 150	Posted - 2014.01.17 20:52:00 - [11] - Quote Criteria Shipment wrote: More importantly... when will our profile pics change... NEVER ___-öGûêGûêGêƒ________________ GûêGûêGûêGòÜGûêa»½GòáGûê Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ GûÆ PEW ¯¯GùÑGò¥GûêGûêGùñ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3690	Posted - 2014.01.17 20:56:00 - [12] - Quote Pete B wrote: When are racial vehicles on their way? And are we getting a Dropsuit Command respec? YES +1 to Dropsuit Respec GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2616	Posted - 2014.01.17 20:59:00 - [13] - Quote After this launch, racial vehicles seems like the next logical step. And I do expect a respec to be given. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 149	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:05:00 - [14] - Quote I don't support a Dropsuit Command respec. I do support a full, final respec once all basic racial gear (dropsuits, vehicles (ground and air), and weapons) are in the game. And more to your OP, we not only need Amarr and Minmatar LAVs and HAVs, but also four racial MAVs. As a side note, I would like to see the old Logi LAV fall to MAVs. I feel like that mirrors the cruiser sized Logis in EVE nicely. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Outer Raven WarRavens League of Infamy 152	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:06:00 - [15] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: After this launch, racial vehicles seems like the next logical step. And I do expect a respec to be given. After this infantry revamp I bet there will be no more respecs for a very very long time. Due to only new content being added from here on out, unless they give us the ability to buy respecs outright when ever we want. ___-öGûêGûêGêƒ________________ GûêGûêGûêGòÜGûêa»½GòáGûê Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ GûÆ PEW ¯¯GùÑGò¥GûêGûêGùñ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 655	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:22:00 - [16] - Quote They shouldn't start on racial vehicles until all the racial suits and weapons are in and balanced. Then more vehicles, the rest of the vehicle types and racial vehicles for all races.
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 149	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:26:00 - [17] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: They shouldn't start on racial vehicles until all the racial suits and weapons are in and balanced. Then more vehicles, the rest of the vehicle types and racial vehicles for all races. How can you balance suits and weapons when all the basic vehicles aren't in the game? DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 150	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:59:00 - [18] - Quote Outer Raven wrote: Michael Arck wrote: After this launch, racial vehicles seems like the next logical step. And I do expect a respec to be given. After this infantry revamp I bet there will be no more respecs for a very very long time. Due to only new content being added from here on out, unless they give us the ability to buy respecs outright when ever we want. Only new content after this infantry revamp? Here's some basic, delayed content we're still missing if 1.8 introduces all the racial dropsuits and the MAGSEC SMG and Ion Pistol. Amarr and Minmatar HAVs All four racial MAVs Amarr and Minmatar dropships All four racial light and heavy Aircraft Amarr and Minmatar small and large turrets, plus a second type of missile launcher Missing most racial short and long range heavy weapons Missing most racial short and long range sidearms Missing all(most, if you count the scanner and scan mods - I don't) racial EWAR That's the BASIC content that DUST should have launched with (with the exception of maybe EWAR.) Everything after that would be new, like features to further integrate EVE and DUST, new roles bonused suits and vehicles, new weapons, new game modes, etc. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5623	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:00:00 - [19] - Quote Tanks must suffer for being OP right now. Later. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1610	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:03:00 - [20] - Quote Not instill I get my Carthum assault SMG then you pilots can get your toys. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein

Outer Raven WarRavens League of Infamy 155	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:07:00 - [21] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: Outer Raven wrote: Michael Arck wrote: After this launch, racial vehicles seems like the next logical step. And I do expect a respec to be given. After this infantry revamp I bet there will be no more respecs for a very very long time. Due to only new content being added from here on out, unless they give us the ability to buy respecs outright when ever we want. Only new content after this infantry revamp? Here's some basic, delayed content we're still missing if 1.8 introduces all the racial dropsuits and the MAGSEC SMG and Ion Pistol. Amarr and Minmatar HAVs All four racial MAVs Amarr and Minmatar dropships All four racial light and heavy Aircraft Amarr and Minmatar small and large turrets, plus a second type of missile launcher Missing most racial short and long range heavy weapons Missing most racial short and long range sidearms Missing all(most, if you count the scanner and scan mods - I don't) racial EWAR That's the BASIC content that DUST should have launched with (with the exception of maybe EWAR.) Everything after that would be new, like features to further integrate EVE and DUST, new roles bonused suits and vehicles, new weapons, new game modes, etc. My point is still valid here. At this point they have released all or most of the vehicle stats that are incoming as far as the vehicle stuff is concerned and they did a respec for that already save if you see something you want, as to the rest such as MAV's while needed has not been introduced in any fashion thus "new content" same as the others. ___-öGûêGûêGêƒ________________ GûêGûêGûêGòÜGûêa»½GòáGûê Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ Gûæ GûÆ PEW ¯¯GùÑGò¥GûêGûêGùñ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 559	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:38:00 - [22] - Quote RESPECT THE RESPEC! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERSPEEEEEEEEEEECCCC! YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!! Would be nice to spec into scout again.
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 150	Posted - 2014.01.18 04:50:00 - [23] - Quote Outer Raven wrote: My point is still valid here. At this point they have released all or most of the vehicle stats that are incoming as far as the vehicle stuff is concerned and they did a respec for that already save if you see something you want, as to the rest such as MAV's while needed has not been introduced in any fashion thus "new content" same as the others. "they have released all or most of the vehicle stats that are incoming as far as the vehicle stuff is concerned" This bit right here tells me that you don't get it. Sure this is CCP's first FPS, but you can't ignore the tremendous experience they've gained over ten years of developing EVE. That experience points to the fact that Amarr and Minmatar vehicles (in addition to everything else I listed) are a no brainer, and would include a spread of classes from Light, Medium, and Heavy. What I've listed is not "new content." It's basic content that has been delayed. New content would be a Black Ops or Marauder HAV (Anyone remember those?) or other new role bonused suits/vehicles. The Amarr and Minmatar equivalents of the Soma and Sica are NOT new content, they are delayed content. DUST has been available to the public and accepting payments for products for over a year now. "save if you see something you want" is not a valid answer and points to your shortsightedness. To say it again, and this is absolutely correct, CCP needs to get basic racial suits, ground and air vehicles, and handheld and vehicle weapons in game ASAP. When they do that, there needs to be a full respec, and that will be the last respec. This is the only correct way to go. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.


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