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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.01.17 14:20:00 -
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Wouldn't it make sense to flip the Gallente and Amarrian assault bonuses?
Would make them repair monsters
Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
906
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Posted - 2014.01.17 14:30:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:Wouldn't it make sense to flip the Gallente and Amarrian assault bonuses? Would make them repair monsters
They could but I'd imagine that it would end up making the Gallente and Amarr OP with their current stats. The Gallente already have an innate Reps so...Stacking mods on would make them damn near undefeatable(because 25+ Armor a second with one or two armor plates and complex shields would be too much). The same goes for the Amarr.
I mean they could always switch the bonuses and test them during 1.8 but I'm not sure if they want to go about "testing" after everything with the vehicles. If it would really be OP, like I'd imagine, then people would flock back to the Armor Suits like before and open up another can of worms.
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excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
166
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Posted - 2014.01.17 15:26:00 -
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If gallente get built in reps shouldnt caldari get built in regs or faster rechargers to balance? |
Daxxis KANNAH
Distinct Covert Initiative
668
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Posted - 2014.01.17 15:30:00 -
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excillon wrote:If gallente get built in reps shouldnt caldari get built in regs or faster rechargers to balance?
Caldari suits already have shorter delays and higher recharge rates than other suits.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2606
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Posted - 2014.01.17 15:31:00 -
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excillon wrote:If gallente get built in reps shouldnt caldari get built in regs or faster rechargers to balance?
The Caldari already have the fastest shield recovery of anybody.
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
826
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Posted - 2014.01.17 15:36:00 -
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How do you know they haven't? Proposed Assault and Logi stats and bonuses aren't out yet. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
467
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:01:00 -
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excillon wrote:If gallente get built in reps shouldnt caldari get built in regs or faster rechargers to balance?
They already have faster shield regen well at leas the assault |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U.
IMMORTAL REGIME
1233
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:03:00 -
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I would like for my gallente scout to also have reps, please.
tell me this is so.
Anime > EVERYTHING
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1251
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:10:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:I would like for my gallente scout to also have reps, please.
tell me this is so.
Gallente scouts get 3 hp/s.
1.8 can't get here soon enough.
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Thumb Green
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
679
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:14:00 -
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excillon wrote:If gallente get built in reps shouldnt caldari get built in regs or faster rechargers to balance?
I want to call you an idiot but I'll refrain.
CCP: Is it the most asinine way possible to do this? Yes. Then that's how we're doing it.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1568
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:16:00 -
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Actually if you look at the new Sentinel HP values we are starting to see a shift. Amarr Sentinels no longer have equal Armor and Shields, they have a significantly larger amount of Armor HP...even more than the Gallente. I see this as in-line that Amarr are the brick armor tankers and Gallente are the active tankers in EVE.
I hope we are seeing the Dev team finally making that shift and that the Gallente will get armor repair bonuses and Amarr get plate bonuses. However, anyone think +25% to armor repair modules feels a little low?
1.8 Analysis - Sentinel Damage Efficiency Calcs
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Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
428
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:18:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:I would like for my gallente scout to also have reps, please.
tell me this is so. Gallente scouts get 3 hp/s.
Is that per level? Damn...a shotty Gallente scout is going to be scary.
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
467
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:19:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:I would like for my gallente scout to also have reps, please.
tell me this is so.
jepp the gal scout has a built in rep... |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1568
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:22:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:I would like for my gallente scout to also have reps, please.
tell me this is so. Gallente scouts get 3 hp/s. Is that per level? Damn...a shotty Gallente scout is going to be scary.
No, thats a passive rep built into the suit. Simply wearing it will give 3hp/s but that bonus will not increase..
It's just like the current Minmatar Assault getting 1hp/s from the suit.
1.8 Analysis - Sentinel Damage Efficiency Calcs
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
1061
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:31:00 -
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imho the gallente suits are too good with that repair bonus.
gallente sentinel with 3 complex plates, a kincat and a shield extender is as fast as a minmatar sentinel with 2 complex plates and 3 shield extenders BUT the gallente sentinel has still more EHP + that free armor repair bonus.
CCP, can you learn basic math please to avoid that stupid design flaws? |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1569
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:34:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:imho the gallente suits are too good with that repair bonus.
gallente sentinel with 3 complex plates, a kincat and a shield extender is as fast as a minmatar sentinel with 2 complex plates and 3 shield extenders BUT the gallente sentinel has still more EHP + that free armor repair bonus.
CCP, can you learn basic math please to avoid that stupid design flaws?
So you feel than 1HP/second, meaning it will take a Gallente Sentinel 8 minutes and 45 seconds to completely repair without any armor plates, is overpowered?
1.8 Analysis - Sentinel Damage Efficiency Calcs
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
1061
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:40:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Jack McReady wrote:imho the gallente suits are too good with that repair bonus.
gallente sentinel with 3 complex plates, a kincat and a shield extender is as fast as a minmatar sentinel with 2 complex plates and 3 shield extenders BUT the gallente sentinel has still more EHP + that free armor repair bonus.
CCP, can you learn basic math please to avoid that stupid design flaws? So you feel than 1HP/second, meaning it will take a Gallente Sentinel 8 minutes and 45 seconds to completely repair without any armor plates, is overpowered?
it is 3hp/s btw. also learn to read and use your brain to get the point. they get that additionally to already being superior. |
Jake Diesel
BIG BAD W0LVES
62
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:45:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:excillon wrote:If gallente get built in reps shouldnt caldari get built in regs or faster rechargers to balance? I want to call you an idiot but I'll refrain.
I'm sorry, but this made laugh hard. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
1932
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:48:00 -
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It would make sense to just pull the Amarr Ass bonus all together because it is complete sh*t, gal should not even be punished that much.
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
3179
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:50:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Jack McReady wrote:imho the gallente suits are too good with that repair bonus.
gallente sentinel with 3 complex plates, a kincat and a shield extender is as fast as a minmatar sentinel with 2 complex plates and 3 shield extenders BUT the gallente sentinel has still more EHP + that free armor repair bonus.
CCP, can you learn basic math please to avoid that stupid design flaws? So you feel than 1HP/second, meaning it will take a Gallente Sentinel 8 minutes and 45 seconds to completely repair without any armor plates, is overpowered? it is 3hp/s btw. also learn to read and use your brain to get the point. they get that additionally to already being superior.
Only the scout gets 3 hp/s. Check the chart again.
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:01:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Jack McReady wrote:imho the gallente suits are too good with that repair bonus.
gallente sentinel with 3 complex plates, a kincat and a shield extender is as fast as a minmatar sentinel with 2 complex plates and 3 shield extenders BUT the gallente sentinel has still more EHP + that free armor repair bonus.
CCP, can you learn basic math please to avoid that stupid design flaws? So you feel than 1HP/second, meaning it will take a Gallente Sentinel 8 minutes and 45 seconds to completely repair without any armor plates, is overpowered? it is 3hp/s btw. also learn to read and use your brain to get the point. they get that additionally to already being superior. Only the scout gets 3 hp/s. Check the chart again.
yeah taht is right, still it is a bonus on an already superior suit  |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
7914
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:03:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:imho the gallente suits are too good with that repair bonus.
gallente sentinel with 3 complex plates, a kincat and a shield extender is as fast as a minmatar sentinel with 2 complex plates and 3 shield extenders BUT the gallente sentinel has still more EHP + that free armor repair bonus.
CCP, can you learn basic math please to avoid that stupid design flaws?
wut?
No it isn't.
3x complex plates = high speed penalty
Slower suit
2x complex plates = lower speed penalty
Faster suit
Now, you tell CCP to learn basic math. Let's see you do some yourself.
Also, it's 1HP/s. Come on. It would take you, quite literally, an entire match to repair from that.
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Syeven Reed
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
255
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:05:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:Wouldn't it make sense to flip the Gallente and Amarrian assault bonuses? Would make them repair monsters
Imagine for a second... *pirate factions*
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1571
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:05:00 -
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I haven't done the calcs myself, but can you actually fit those modules given the Sentinel's resources? I'm not doubting you, but I wasn't sure if you've checked.
You're also overlooking that the Minmatar Sentinel is capable of significantly higher DPS, so please refrain from being hostile.
1.8 Analysis - Sentinel Damage Efficiency Calcs
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
4390
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:29:00 -
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Moved to Feedback/Requests
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
4015
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:33:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Actually if you look at the new Sentinel HP values we are starting to see a shift. Amarr Sentinels no longer have equal Armor and Shields, they have a significantly larger amount of Armor HP...even more than the Gallente. I see this as in-line that Amarr are the brick armor tankers and Gallente are the active tankers in EVE.
I hope we are seeing the Dev team finally making that shift and that the Gallente will get armor repair bonuses and Amarr get plate bonuses. However, anyone think +25% to armor repair modules feels a little low?
Works fine for my Logi as of now. With the +25% to armor repair mods from the armor repair skill, you can get 7.5 HP/s with one complex armor repairer.
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