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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
2075
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Posted - 2014.01.17 10:47:00 -
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Had a look at the new stuff thats supposed to come and here are my impressions so far (HP's are based with shields and armor up to lvl5 and proto suits):
-Caldari heavy
OP cause of the regular 4 sec shield recharge delay and 1 sec when it is depleted. Making it probably the best choice for solo players. Which means most heavys will run that thing cause of the insane explosive resistance stacked with shields. Making that thing allmost unkillable. Oh and shield recharge is sitting at 30HP/s. But meh flux=dead. Base HP is in total 1143.
-Gallente heavy
has the same total HP compared with the caldari heavy and inverted slot layouts (4 low 1 high) which means you could stack quite alot of armor plates onto that thing. And you get a 1HP/s passive armor rep for free. This suit comes with 1143HP base HP.
-Minmatarr heavy
3 high slots and 2 lows with the focus on more armor then shields. Doesnt seem to work out for me to armor tank with just 2 modules. However 3 damage mods stacked on it would make it interesting.
warning: it is the heavy with the lowest amount of HP (1031).
-amarr heavy
3 low slots and 2 high. Seems like CCP changed the basic frame suit into a sentinel. However its the suit with the highest possible base HP of 1200.
Now lets have a look onto the new guns shall we?
-Magsec SMG
Railrifle in pocket size which out performs the AR
-Bolt pistol
Fully automatic gun that deals 150HP in a single shot. Clipsize is 6. Why do i have the feeling that this thing will be even more powerfull then the old flaylock?
-Ion pistol
looks like a somewhat nerfed scramblerpistol. But at least that thing comes with 12 shots in a clip. (scrambler pistol lvl 5 has 11 rounds and deals more damage)
My predictions:
Caldari heavys everywhere, magsec SMG will be the #1 sidearm for the crowds cause it is probs better then a AR.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1505
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Posted - 2014.01.17 10:52:00 -
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Ion pistol has a charged shot... and/or is fully auto
The answer is "ForgeGun"... doesnt matter what the question is...
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
825
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Posted - 2014.01.17 10:57:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Ion pistol has a charged shot... and/or is fully auto
Semi auto, but is also has the shortest reload time. |
Rusty Shallows
817
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Posted - 2014.01.17 11:11:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:
-amarr heavy
3 low slots and 2 high. Seems like CCP changed the basic frame suit into a sentinel. However its the suit with the highest possible base HP of 1200.
It's no secret that the Adv Basic Frame is generally the best Heavy Frame option for Fatties who are not space rich. Stacked Complex Damage Mods are just that important.
If that change goes through it will definitely show someone has been paying attention.
MCC Lounge Lizard
Forums > Game
Fix the game CCP
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2848
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Posted - 2014.01.17 11:13:00 -
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What's a heavy going to do with 4 highs? I guess a mix of damage mods & rechargers . . . ?
No.
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Meee One
Clones Of The Damned
Zero-Day
148
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Posted - 2014.01.17 11:15:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:What's a heavy going to do with 4 highs? I guess a mix of damage mods & rechargers . . . ?
Rechargers (regulators) use low.
More like shield extensions.
Why?
Beads.
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
424
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Posted - 2014.01.17 11:17:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:What's a heavy going to do with 4 highs? I guess a mix of damage mods & rechargers . . . ?
No DMG mod on Cal.Heavy for me.
Extenders and Energ.
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1584
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Posted - 2014.01.17 11:19:00 -
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Source of your "data"....? |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
826
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Posted - 2014.01.17 11:22:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Source of your "data"....?
Check Feedback/Requests, you'll find a couple of very interesting stickies.
EDIT: His data may be legit, but that doesn't mean his interpretation of it is necessarily accurate. |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
827
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Posted - 2014.01.17 11:24:00 -
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Caldari heavy wont be OP, explosions hardly matter anymore at all, let alone in PC since PC is a flux fest, while in pubs, being up close means such high DPS i doubt the caldari heavy will live through a AR or RR or CR or god forbid a ScR.
Seriously even with a 1 second depleted recharge rate it won't be able to recharge in close quarters, and with the shields being super UP right now, I have a big feeling minmatar & gallente heavies will be WAAY better, minmatar having 3 highs & 2 lows for triple damage modded HMGs with better HP than Caldari, and Gallente for having the most HP possible+ a damage mod.
Saying a caldari suit will be OPs pretty ballsy.
I have no doubt it will be popular though, since caldari is the favorite race and alot of us have been waiting for caldari heavies for a long time now.
That's "MR." Pothead to you.
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HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4440
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Posted - 2014.01.17 11:33:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Caldari heavy wont be OP, explosions hardly matter anymore at all, let alone in PC since PC is a flux fest, while in pubs, being up close means such high DPS i doubt the caldari heavy will live through a AR or RR or CR or god forbid a ScR.
Seriously even with a 1 second depleted recharge rate it won't be able to recharge in close quarters, and with the shields being super UP right now, I have a big feeling minmatar & gallente heavies will be WAAY better, minmatar having 3 highs & 2 lows for triple damage modded HMGs with better HP than Caldari, and Gallente for having the most HP possible+ a damage mod.
Saying a caldari suit will be OPs pretty ballsy.
I have no doubt it will be popular though, since caldari is the favorite race and alot of us have been waiting for caldari heavies for a long time now.
Will fluxes fall under splash damage as well? So -5% per level this seems to help with a possible shield heavy. |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
827
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Posted - 2014.01.17 11:36:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Caldari heavy wont be OP, explosions hardly matter anymore at all, let alone in PC since PC is a flux fest, while in pubs, being up close means such high DPS i doubt the caldari heavy will live through a AR or RR or CR or god forbid a ScR.
Seriously even with a 1 second depleted recharge rate it won't be able to recharge in close quarters, and with the shields being super UP right now, I have a big feeling minmatar & gallente heavies will be WAAY better, minmatar having 3 highs & 2 lows for triple damage modded HMGs with better HP than Caldari, and Gallente for having the most HP possible+ a damage mod.
Saying a caldari suit will be OPs pretty ballsy.
I have no doubt it will be popular though, since caldari is the favorite race and alot of us have been waiting for caldari heavies for a long time now. Will fluxes fall under splash damage as well? So -5% per level this seems to help with a possible shield heavy.
I doubt it, even if they do ADV & proto fluxes will still have enough damage to instantly knock out 4 shield extender, shield upgrades 5 heavies shields anyways.
That's "MR." Pothead to you.
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Gregor stormwalker
Seraphim Auxiliaries
67
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Posted - 2014.01.17 11:42:00 -
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IM not great at theory crafting but will minmatar be the goto heavy AV speed+4 damage mod with FG (stacking penalty is high but would that last mod add enough to the FG to make a difference)
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1646
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Posted - 2014.01.17 11:46:00 -
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"Calls Caldari fatsuit OP but will stack the max amount of armor on a Galente Heavy and get 175 HP + in reps while spitting out 300 HMG bullets to terrified panicking reddots".
This dude just doesn't drop they'll say...
Teamwork = most OP factor in Dust.
http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
827
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Posted - 2014.01.17 11:50:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:"Calls Caldari fatsuit OP but will stack the max amount of armor on a Galente Heavy and get 175 HP + in reps while spitting out 300 HMG bullets to terrified panicking reddots".
This dude just doesn't drop they'll say...
Teamwork = most OP factor in Dust.
Flux or high DPS=dead caldari heavy.
Flux, core nades, high DPS, MDs, preety much anything = pissed off gallente heavy
That's "MR." Pothead to you.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
970
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Posted - 2014.01.17 11:57:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Ion pistol has a charged shot... and/or is fully auto
Did the math on that. With two comp damage mod the charge shot does 529.37. What's the head shot modifier on this weapon?
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Please help me save the Gal scout!:
linky
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Gregor stormwalker
Seraphim Auxiliaries
67
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Posted - 2014.01.17 11:58:00 -
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Gregor stormwalker wrote:IM not great at theory crafting but will minmatar be the goto heavy AV speed+4 damage mod with FG (stacking penalty is high but would that last mod add enough to the FG to make a difference)
never mind miss read stats doh feel like an idiot now dam small Mobil screen
ok then caldari for AV? same question about 4 high slots |
The Attorney General
1775
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Posted - 2014.01.17 15:04:00 -
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Gregor stormwalker wrote:Gregor stormwalker wrote:IM not great at theory crafting but will minmatar be the goto heavy AV speed+4 damage mod with FG (stacking penalty is high but would that last mod add enough to the FG to make a difference)
never mind miss read stats doh feel like an idiot now dam small Mobil screen ok then caldari for AV? same question about 4 high slots
Depends on how you plan to fight.
If you intend to use the FG from somewhere far off, then yes, stacking damage mods would be good, although I would stop at three, to be able to add enough HP to make the suit more durable against snipers.
Amarr suit looks good on paper. Same deal as now, two damage mods and you can use the lows for either speed or plates and a rep.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Deep Shallowness
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.01.17 15:25:00 -
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I hope to make this char my new main and be a heavy, so i'm just sitting waiting to spend my SP. Looks like Caldari Heavy may be the thing to do. Till then I'll sit on my SP and not play. |
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