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IAmDuncanIdaho II
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Posted - 2014.01.17 08:58:00 -
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This looks interesting...does this sound right? Not that good with the maths side of stuff.
(Assume level 5 racial scout skill)
- Caldari Scout: 25% bonus to scan precision of 45 taking that down to 36, means they can't see any other scout? (all scouts have base suit profile of 35)
- Gallente Scout: cannot be seen by any suit in the game due to profile lowering from 35 down to 28
- I didn't want to see the profile reduction skill removed from all scouts (I play Minmatar) but with the reduction to base profile on the suits, I'm thinking this might be ok?
Obviously there are other skills and modules you can fit to further reduce these numbers, but assuming all skills are equal, I'm curious to know what the intention is behind some of these numbers. Is it all about avoidance of scanners and non-light suits, or is there a scout-on-scout meta-game happening here?
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
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Posted - 2014.03.15 11:33:00 -
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Summ Dude wrote:KalOfTheRathi wrote:Summ Dude wrote:You're mistaken. All Logi suits will be hacking faster in 1.8. The MinLogi will be hacking slightly faster than the other Logis. Go check the data again. The hacking bonus is gone for the Minmatar Logi. The only hacking bonus I found was the Minmatar Scout suit. Exactly what are you talking about? The MinLogi did lose the skill bonus to hacking, but all Logi suits have an innate hack speed bonus on the suit. Check out this picture, see the column titled "Hacking Speed Bonus"? That's what I'm talking about.
HFS! some logis have an innate 20% hack bonus? Darn - I thought it was only scouts getting an innate hacking bonus. Good call.
[Edit] I guess we're waiting for the patch notes so we can see all the latest up-to-date data in a single place. I've been looking at a spreadsheet with scout ratings that someone else said was changed..... :-/ |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
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Posted - 2014.03.16 09:05:00 -
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Summ Dude wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Summ Dude wrote:KalOfTheRathi wrote:Summ Dude wrote:You're mistaken. All Logi suits will be hacking faster in 1.8. The MinLogi will be hacking slightly faster than the other Logis. Go check the data again. The hacking bonus is gone for the Minmatar Logi. The only hacking bonus I found was the Minmatar Scout suit. Exactly what are you talking about? The MinLogi did lose the skill bonus to hacking, but all Logi suits have an innate hack speed bonus on the suit. Check out this picture, see the column titled "Hacking Speed Bonus"? That's what I'm talking about. HFS! some logis have an innate 20% hack bonus? Darn - I thought it was only scouts getting an innate hacking bonus. Good call. [Edit] I guess we're waiting for the patch notes so we can see all the latest up-to-date data in a single place. I've been looking at a spreadsheet with scout ratings that someone else said was changed..... :-/ It's the MinLogis that get the 20% base hacking bonus, the others get 15%. You'll notice that the Minmatar Assault and Scout suits also hack 5% faster than their racial counterparts. Cool, huh?
Ai yes, I thought my minnie scout with max skills would be the fastest hacker out there, but no, logis will hack faster. Makes sense though.
So what figures are we looking at there? 20% innate + 25% hack skill + say, 50% of codebreaker modules (don't know how stacking penalty works, but just say 50% with 2)
That's about a 5 second hack no? Wow. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
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Posted - 2014.03.16 09:45:00 -
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Summ Dude wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Ai yes, I thought my minnie scout with max skills would be the fastest hacker out there, but no, logis will hack faster. Makes sense though.
So what figures are we looking at there? 20% innate + 25% hack skill + say, 50% of codebreaker modules (don't know how stacking penalty works, but just say 50% with 2)
That's about a 5 second hack no? Wow. Actually the Minmatar Logi has a 20% hack speed bonus, while someone with level 5 in Minmatar Scout will have a base 35% hack speed bonus (skill bonus + innate suit bonus). So without any modules, the Scout wins. The Logi might be able to overcome this by stacking Codebreakers, but that would take up a lot of slots whereas the Scout can do it with none.
Thanks for correcting my lazy analysis!! Cheers! |
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