DUST Search - Shouldnt the Laser have 120-150m of range?

Fizzer94 wrote:

MINA Longstrike wrote:

Reiki Jubo wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Reiki Jubo wrote:

The LR seems to not have a role right now. Fewer people are using it because the higher tiers dont provide more damage partly, but more because the its outclassed by the RR at range and everything up close. It seems like the LR would not only have good damage output at range but as its recoil is essentially nil it should have solid accuracy as it cuts down dropsuits.

keep in mind the LR is supposed to be the Amarr equivalent of the sniper rifle and those slaving scum are second in range only to the Caldari.

You are Amarr.....and from your words you sound like a traitor. Its better to die in battle or as slave in the name of God than live as a traitor to your own people.

Oh yeah L@Z0RZ need a buff!

hehehehe only because I didn't know any of the history before I signed up. trust me, first chance CCP gives me to change my race i'm waving buh-bye to the bat sh#t crazy cultists and their psycho she-devil queen.

The amarr aren't batsh!t crazy, they just think they're better than you - and they have a fair number of reasons to believe it too. The 'slaves' have the opportunity to convert which does better the lives of their progeny and eventually allows for full integration into the empire as 'first class' citizens.

If you want to see *real* crazy you need to run afoul of the sani sabik cults - colloquially known as the 'blood raiders' for their propensity to capture and eventually murder whole starship crews for nothing more than their blood. Or you need to wander into the path of one of the children of Sandha Kuvakei, I was around when Sansha and his nation revealed themselves to the universe again.

Lol. Yeah, the Amarr religion looks downright peaceful if you compare it to those two. They take insane to another level.

"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."

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Reiki Jubo Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 249	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:02:00 - [1] - Quote The LR seems to not have a role right now. Fewer people are using it because the higher tiers dont provide more damage partly, but more because the its outclassed by the RR at range and everything up close. It seems like the LR would not only have good damage output at range but as its recoil is essentially nil it should have solid accuracy as it cuts down dropsuits. keep in mind the LR is supposed to be the Amarr equivalent of the sniper rifle and those slaving scum are second in range only to the Caldari.
Dusters Blog Galactic News Network 552	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:04:00 - [2] - Quote +3 we support this. we cant get so enamored with the new weapons that we forget where earlier content is supposed to be slotted.
buzzzzzzz killllllllll TRA1LBLAZERS 34	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:07:00 - [3] - Quote laser rifle needs a definite bump. It is still good, but other weapons are just better in every way (rail rifle)
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3652	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:07:00 - [4] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: Shouldnt the Laser have 120-150m of range?Subscribe . Yes.Yes it should. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5809	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:08:00 - [5] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: The LR seems to not have a role right now. Fewer people are using it because the higher tiers dont provide more damage partly, but more because the its outclassed by the RR at range and everything up close. It seems like the LR would not only have good damage output at range but as its recoil is essentially nil it should have solid accuracy as it cuts down dropsuits. keep in mind the LR is supposed to be the Amarr equivalent of the sniper rifle and those slaving scum are second in range only to the Caldari. You are Amarr.....and from your words you sound like a traitor. Its better to die in battle or as slave in the name of God than live as a traitor to your own people. Oh yeah L@Z0RZ need a buff! "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Reiki Jubo Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 253	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:12:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: The LR seems to not have a role right now. Fewer people are using it because the higher tiers dont provide more damage partly, but more because the its outclassed by the RR at range and everything up close. It seems like the LR would not only have good damage output at range but as its recoil is essentially nil it should have solid accuracy as it cuts down dropsuits. keep in mind the LR is supposed to be the Amarr equivalent of the sniper rifle and those slaving scum are second in range only to the Caldari. You are Amarr.....and from your words you sound like a traitor. Its better to die in battle or as slave in the name of God than live as a traitor to your own people. Oh yeah L@Z0RZ need a buff! hehehehe only because I didn't know any of the history before I signed up. trust me, first chance CCP gives me to change my race i'm waving buh-bye to the bat sh#t crazy cultists and their psycho she-devil queen.
RObert Guilleman Her Majesty's S3cret S3rvice 6	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:21:00 - [7] - Quote The answer is yes. Also: be ready to meet mine once it occurs, traitor.
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 143	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:26:00 - [8] - Quote Just to make sure I'm on the same page as the community, the Amarr weapons are currently Scrambler Pistol - Short range sidearm, equivalent to a small pulse laser Scrambler Rifle - Short range light, equivalent to a medium pulse laser Laser Rifle - Long range light, equivalent to a medium beam laser Does that about sum it up how current Amarr weapons (Energy weapons) are (or should be) in DUST and their relation to EVE? Edit: Short and long are relative, suffice it to say that the scrambler is (or should be) short range compared to the laser rifle. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Dustbunny Durrr ReD or DeaD 47	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:27:00 - [9] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: The LR seems to not have a role right now. Fewer people are using it because the higher tiers dont provide more damage partly, but more because the its outclassed by the RR at range and everything up close. It seems like the LR would not only have good damage output at range but as its recoil is essentially nil it should have solid accuracy as it cuts down dropsuits. keep in mind the LR is supposed to be the Amarr equivalent of the sniper rifle and those slaving scum are second in range only to the Caldari. I don't know about the equivalent of a sniper, but a definite boost is need to its range. LR Needs to have greater range than Rail Rifle, due to its absolute ineptness at close range, and overheating drawback, which the rail doesn't have.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5812	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:30:00 - [10] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: The LR seems to not have a role right now. Fewer people are using it because the higher tiers dont provide more damage partly, but more because the its outclassed by the RR at range and everything up close. It seems like the LR would not only have good damage output at range but as its recoil is essentially nil it should have solid accuracy as it cuts down dropsuits. keep in mind the LR is supposed to be the Amarr equivalent of the sniper rifle and those slaving scum are second in range only to the Caldari. You are Amarr.....and from your words you sound like a traitor. Its better to die in battle or as slave in the name of God than live as a traitor to your own people. Oh yeah L@Z0RZ need a buff! hehehehe only because I didn't know any of the history before I signed up. trust me, first chance CCP gives me to change my race i'm waving buh-bye to the bat sh#t crazy cultists and their psycho she-devil queen. Man and that only shows the lack of knowledge you have. For the most part all Amarr are just normal people, like the kind who go to church and give you neighbourhood new forms, or go to youth groups and what not. However as you know the Amarr are star faring theocracy who believe in a One True God, and who are ruled over in the billions by a strict caste system of nobles, and a single over arcing, all powerful Emperor or Empress. Because of the unique history of the Amarr they have evolved in a number of ways becoming a product of their home world and religion, believing Mankind must be united beneath the heavens through the Faith the Amarr preach. The Amarr achieve this goal by expanding into the stars, Reclaiming any and all worlds they can in the name of God and their Empress. But its not just the planets and territory. It is their sacred duty to unify mankind and as such they must Reclaim the peoples of New Eden and ensure they turn to the correct path. Whats not to like? Champions of Justice, Unifiers and champions of the Dignity of Mankind, Crusades, Avenging Angels, Pseudo Space Marines, etc.....Oh and did I mention Battleskirts, Popped Collars, and Kufi Hats? Swag much? "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."

Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc League of Infamy 690	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:31:00 - [11] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: The LR seems to not have a role right now. Fewer people are using it because the higher tiers dont provide more damage partly, but more because the its outclassed by the RR at range and everything up close. It seems like the LR would not only have good damage output at range but as its recoil is essentially nil it should have solid accuracy as it cuts down dropsuits. keep in mind the LR is supposed to be the Amarr equivalent of the sniper rifle and those slaving scum are second in range only to the Caldari. You are Amarr.....and from your words you sound like a traitor. Its better to die in battle or as slave in the name of God than live as a traitor to your own people. Oh yeah L@Z0RZ need a buff! hehehehe only because I didn't know any of the history before I signed up. trust me, first chance CCP gives me to change my race i'm waving buh-bye to the bat sh#t crazy cultists and their psycho she-devil queen. phyco? no, she's normal..... sorta. Now, if you said slutty lesbian ***, then I would agree with you. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___**^
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2595	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:34:00 - [12] - Quote I've been thinking the laser rifle should become the Amarr version of a mid range tactical sniper rifle. Give it the longer range that it needs, make it more intense but also generate heat faster. It could then kill fast but require a bit more time between kills. You know what? As a enemy of the Amarr lets just leave it as the lame weapon it now is. EDIT: I see someone else mentioned sniper while I was typing. // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
Saxbrin Shain Ivory Vanguard 181	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:34:00 - [13] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: hehehehe only because I didn't know any of the history before I signed up. trust me, first chance CCP gives me to change my race i'm waving buh-bye to the bat sh#t crazy cultists and their psycho she-devil queen. Lore clearly paints every race as savage, merciless, and xenophobic. From a RP standpoint, they're all bastards. There are no good guys in space. With that out of the way, it's on to the topic at hand. I primarily run the Laser Rifle. It's a beast within its optimal range, but too many weapons outclass it at both ends of that optimal range. All a Rail Rifle, Scrambler Rifle, or Assault Rifle has to do is take a few steps forwards or backwards to render me impotent while they retain enough damage to be a serious threat. That's not right, and it needs to be addressed along with some other weapons that GÇö while not terrible GÇö are underwhelming. IMMORTALS; From the Sands to the Stars We fight until we die. Then we fight some more.
Chesyre Armundsen Thanes Of Dust 371	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:36:00 - [14] - Quote I'm not even Amarr and think the LR needs a buff. LR should be stronger at close range and lose efficiency as distance increases, increased damage over time, and max out at great range but with minimal damage. So says physics anyway. Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!"
Aisha Ctarl Pradox One Proficiency V. 2887	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:38:00 - [15] - Quote I used the LR earlier today and melted some fools, but GOD does it feel weak. If I could I'd give you +100 OP, the LR is probably the most defunct weapon in the game that CCP has apparently forgotten about. Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 2526	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:40:00 - [16] - Quote my laser pointer has more range... "Imagine a world where hypothetical thoughts didn't exist" -Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Nova Knife Proficeiney 5 \o/
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5812	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:43:00 - [17] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: I'm not even Amarr and think the LR needs a buff. LR should be stronger at close range and lose efficiency as distance increases, increased damage over time, and max out at great range but with minimal damage. So says physics anyway. Pffff what are Physics before the righteous fury of God! ((Lol even being a serious RPer I still find that insanely ironic)) "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1352	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:43:00 - [18] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: The LR seems to not have a role right now. Fewer people are using it because the higher tiers dont provide more damage partly, but more because the its outclassed by the RR at range and everything up close. It seems like the LR would not only have good damage output at range but as its recoil is essentially nil it should have solid accuracy as it cuts down dropsuits. keep in mind the LR is supposed to be the Amarr equivalent of the sniper rifle and those slaving scum are second in range only to the Caldari. You are Amarr.....and from your words you sound like a traitor. Its better to die in battle or as slave in the name of God than live as a traitor to your own people. Oh yeah L@Z0RZ need a buff! hehehehe only because I didn't know any of the history before I signed up. trust me, first chance CCP gives me to change my race i'm waving buh-bye to the bat sh#t crazy cultists and their psycho she-devil queen. They may be bat-sh#t crazy, and their Empress may be a psycho she-devil, but they are NOT cultists. Cults are of small size, and the Amarr Empire/Religion is the largest religion in New Eden. Calling them a cult is like calling Catholicism a cult. It just doesn't make any sense. (I personally believe the Empress is actually the most level-headed and benevolent leader in New Eden, and the Amarr Religion, while a little (a lot) harsh, is actually pretty cool and reasonably sane.) Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 212	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:45:00 - [19] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: The LR seems to not have a role right now. Fewer people are using it because the higher tiers dont provide more damage partly, but more because the its outclassed by the RR at range and everything up close. It seems like the LR would not only have good damage output at range but as its recoil is essentially nil it should have solid accuracy as it cuts down dropsuits. keep in mind the LR is supposed to be the Amarr equivalent of the sniper rifle and those slaving scum are second in range only to the Caldari. You are Amarr.....and from your words you sound like a traitor. Its better to die in battle or as slave in the name of God than live as a traitor to your own people. Oh yeah L@Z0RZ need a buff! hehehehe only because I didn't know any of the history before I signed up. trust me, first chance CCP gives me to change my race i'm waving buh-bye to the bat sh#t crazy cultists and their psycho she-devil queen. The amarr aren't batsh!t crazy, they just think they're better than you - and they have a fair number of reasons to believe it too. The 'slaves' have the opportunity to convert which does better the lives of their progeny and eventually allows for full integration into the empire as 'first class' citizens. If you want to see real crazy you need to run afoul of the sani sabik cults - colloquially known as the 'blood raiders' for their propensity to capture and eventually murder whole starship crews for nothing more than their blood. Or you need to wander into the path of one of the children of Sandha Kuvakei, I was around when Sansha and his nation revealed themselves to the universe again.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1352	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:48:00 - [20] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: I'm not even Amarr and think the LR needs a buff. LR should be stronger at close range and lose efficiency as distance increases, increased damage over time, and max out at great range but with minimal damage. So says physics anyway. Not necessarily. The laser is focused further out, causing it to do massive damage at a certain distance, but substantially less at every other distance. This is because the photons are tightly packed together at the ranges of 60-80m causing them to "puncture" the drop suits defences better while at that range. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire

Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1354	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:51:00 - [21] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: The LR seems to not have a role right now. Fewer people are using it because the higher tiers dont provide more damage partly, but more because the its outclassed by the RR at range and everything up close. It seems like the LR would not only have good damage output at range but as its recoil is essentially nil it should have solid accuracy as it cuts down dropsuits. keep in mind the LR is supposed to be the Amarr equivalent of the sniper rifle and those slaving scum are second in range only to the Caldari. You are Amarr.....and from your words you sound like a traitor. Its better to die in battle or as slave in the name of God than live as a traitor to your own people. Oh yeah L@Z0RZ need a buff! hehehehe only because I didn't know any of the history before I signed up. trust me, first chance CCP gives me to change my race i'm waving buh-bye to the bat sh#t crazy cultists and their psycho she-devil queen. The amarr aren't batsh!t crazy, they just think they're better than you - and they have a fair number of reasons to believe it too. The 'slaves' have the opportunity to convert which does better the lives of their progeny and eventually allows for full integration into the empire as 'first class' citizens. If you want to see real crazy you need to run afoul of the sani sabik cults - colloquially known as the 'blood raiders' for their propensity to capture and eventually murder whole starship crews for nothing more than their blood. Or you need to wander into the path of one of the children of Sandha Kuvakei, I was around when Sansha and his nation revealed themselves to the universe again. Lol. Yeah, the Amarr religion looks downright peaceful if you compare it to those two. They take insane to another level. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 396	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:59:00 - [22] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Or you need to wander into the path of one of the children of Sandha Kuvakei, I was around when Sansha and his nation revealed themselves to the universe again. Nation gives any sane person nightmares, Kuvakei was bad enough when all the empires put aside their conflicts to put him down the first time. Sansha wishes to use brain-implanted chips to make a human hive mind that also does his bidding. [Cool Sansha Vid] Anyways, the Laser does need something. I wouldn't say that CCP "forgot" about it, because there was the recent changing of the sites on it. If they have it be ****-poor up close (to where the only thing you're going to kill is someone with a sliver of armor left), then it should just keep getting stronger the further it goes, until it hits its max range. Amarr HAV Speculation
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5815	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:04:00 - [23] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: The LR seems to not have a role right now. Fewer people are using it because the higher tiers dont provide more damage partly, but more because the its outclassed by the RR at range and everything up close. It seems like the LR would not only have good damage output at range but as its recoil is essentially nil it should have solid accuracy as it cuts down dropsuits. keep in mind the LR is supposed to be the Amarr equivalent of the sniper rifle and those slaving scum are second in range only to the Caldari. You are Amarr.....and from your words you sound like a traitor. Its better to die in battle or as slave in the name of God than live as a traitor to your own people. Oh yeah L@Z0RZ need a buff! hehehehe only because I didn't know any of the history before I signed up. trust me, first chance CCP gives me to change my race i'm waving buh-bye to the bat sh#t crazy cultists and their psycho she-devil queen. They may be bat-sh#t crazy, and their Empress may be a psycho she-devil, but they are NOT cultists. Cults are of small size, and the Amarr Empire/Religion is the largest religion in New Eden. Calling them a cult is like calling Catholicism a cult. It just doesn't make any sense. (I personally believe the Empress is actually the most level-headed and benevolent leader in New Eden, and the Amarr Religion, while a little (a lot) harsh, is actually pretty cool and reasonably sane.) (( OOC of course there are some very dark themes surrounding the Empress, but my interpretation of those themes are that they highlight the struggle she faces daily, not that I can comment IC about that. She is by far one of the wises and most tactful leaders the Amarr have ever had....Yeah I would say the Amarrian religion is harsh...but that's because the Amarr came from a harsh place. Athra wasn't a garden agri world of paradise world like the Gallentean or Minmatar homeworlds.)) "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5815	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:06:00 - [24] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: The LR seems to not have a role right now. Fewer people are using it because the higher tiers dont provide more damage partly, but more because the its outclassed by the RR at range and everything up close. It seems like the LR would not only have good damage output at range but as its recoil is essentially nil it should have solid accuracy as it cuts down dropsuits. keep in mind the LR is supposed to be the Amarr equivalent of the sniper rifle and those slaving scum are second in range only to the Caldari. You are Amarr.....and from your words you sound like a traitor. Its better to die in battle or as slave in the name of God than live as a traitor to your own people. Oh yeah L@Z0RZ need a buff! hehehehe only because I didn't know any of the history before I signed up. trust me, first chance CCP gives me to change my race i'm waving buh-bye to the bat sh#t crazy cultists and their psycho she-devil queen. The amarr aren't batsh!t crazy, they just think they're better than you - and they have a fair number of reasons to believe it too. The 'slaves' have the opportunity to convert which does better the lives of their progeny and eventually allows for full integration into the empire as 'first class' citizens. If you want to see real crazy you need to run afoul of the sani sabik cults - colloquially known as the 'blood raiders' for their propensity to capture and eventually murder whole starship crews for nothing more than their blood. Or you need to wander into the path of one of the children of Sandha Kuvakei, I was around when Sansha and his nation revealed themselves to the universe again. Lol. Yeah, the Amarr religion looks downright peaceful if you compare it to those two. They take insane to another level. I read End of the World the other day....it gives disturbing insight to what a blood raider thinks....they are very disturbed people. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 963	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:20:00 - [25] - Quote Yes, given its drawbacks (reverse optimal) the laser rifle should definitely have the longest range out of any light assault type weapons - 120m to 140m would probably do it. Also, this should be done to the laser rifle as well: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=124564&find=unread {:)}{3GÇó> Please help me save the Gal scout!: linky
Green Living 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1151	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:20:00 - [26] - Quote I haven't seen a LR on the battlefield in weeks, other than the few times I dust mine off for *****, giggles and utter frustration.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5816	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:21:00 - [27] - Quote Green Living wrote: I haven't seen a LR on the battlefield in weeks, other than the few times I dust mine off for *****, giggles and utter frustration. Dude 6 man laser team....you up for it sometime? "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Faquira Bleuetta 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 168	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:42:00 - [28] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: The LR seems to not have a role right now. Fewer people are using it because the higher tiers dont provide more damage partly, but more because the its outclassed by the RR at range and everything up close. It seems like the LR would not only have good damage output at range but as its recoil is essentially nil it should have solid accuracy as it cuts down dropsuits. keep in mind the LR is supposed to be the Amarr equivalent of the sniper rifle and those slaving scum are second in range only to the Caldari. nope
Tyjus Vacca Valor Coalition 77	Posted - 2014.01.17 03:17:00 - [29] - Quote +1 should have tons of range.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1097	Posted - 2014.01.17 03:53:00 - [30] - Quote Needs more range plus a reason and it needs to be a REAL reason for using anything above basic. Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.



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