DUST Search - [CCP] ARMOR TANKING

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

2- Look above for my exprience in a PC match in a slow ass Gallente assault
>>>>>>>> You think thats slow ass because you never ran a 500hp Commando XD
Still too fast for the HP value they have.
Anything with ABOVE 700 HP,should not run faster than 6.2 m/s....

4- 3 complex shield extenders. Mind you, my skills aren't maxed for shields, I could probably get to at least 500 HP.
I would also like to mention that my Caldari suit is much better overall outside of HP and regen, it has a duvolle, a proto hive, core locus, and an advanced SMG while my Gallente is stuck with a GEK, K2, M1 locus and a syndicate SMG.
And yes 6% speed IS a lot when you consider that the HP difference is next to nothing in the end.
If I replace those two enhanced armor plates with complex I would get 559. OH MY GOD IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD!

>>>>>.......So you are ok with 3 COMPLEX shield extenders having LESS HP value, than 2 ENH armor plates.

5- Enhanced plates suck arse too actually in terms of CPU/PG, it's just that in order to compete at the higher end armor tanks have to use those.
I agree that basics are a wee bit ridiculous.
I would much prefer it if armor went 55/82/165 as it more closely resembles shields in terms of HP increase.
Now before you say anything about the HP values being too high, what I did was took shields HP and did 2.5x.
Armor has to use up half of it's slots for regen, and the HP ceiling is supposed to be higher.

>>>>>>>>I will from now on consider you biased in this issue.165 HP?LOL.
More like 40 - 80 - 120 HP...lol

6- Basic plates just aren't competitive enough at the higher end since you have to fit armor repairers too, but other than that yes, look above.

>>>>>>>Its been PROVEN,taht combat wise Higher HP value > Higher regen value.
So having 500 Armor and 5HP per sec is alway going to be better than having 380 HP and 10 REP.
PROVEN DUST514 FACT.
Sure, AA has a lot to do with this,but its still a fact.
Imagine you have a clone, with your exact skill level,exact character,exact aiming capabilities,etc...
The Cat Merc with 500 HP with 5 REP will come on top of your 380HP 10 HP REGEN Fit AND your caldari 6% faster suit with 31 Shield regen per sec,...lol

And what you save on plates you will have taken back from you with armor repairers, those are expensive as **** in any way you look at it and you have to fit complex or else you have a **** regen.
BTW That Caldari fit I'm talking about? Has a complex damage mod.

>>>>>>>>ONE DAMAGE MOD?! how many does your GAl has? And even stuck with a gek you will end up doing MORE damage while being cheaper AND having more HP,for a mer 6% speed

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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8086	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:24:00 - [1] - Quote Shield depleted delay is so tiny that it's barely a factor, and just one basic regulator usually covers it. It incentives the use of regulators instead of dual tanking both shields and armor, which was a balance issue. So quit whining and use a regulatr instead of trying to dual tank. Shields may have less HP, but their penalty is still almost a non-factor, and they auto-regen. Armor does not auto-regen, meaning you have to stack like 3 complex armor repairers and use up lts of PG/CPU and slots to get a comparable regen rate. Almost one uses complex plates because of the speed penalty, and you want to raise the penalty? lol. NOPE Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8089	Posted - 2014.01.16 06:13:00 - [2] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cat Merc wrote: 2- Look above for my exprience in a PC match in a slow ass Gallente assault >>>>>>>> You think thats slow ass because you never ran a 500hp Commando XD Still too fast for the HP value they have. Anything with ABOVE 700 HP,should not run faster than 6.2 m/s.... 4- 3 complex shield extenders. Mind you, my skills aren't maxed for shields, I could probably get to at least 500 HP. I would also like to mention that my Caldari suit is much better overall outside of HP and regen, it has a duvolle, a proto hive, core locus, and an advanced SMG while my Gallente is stuck with a GEK, K2, M1 locus and a syndicate SMG. And yes 6% speed IS a lot when you consider that the HP difference is next to nothing in the end. If I replace those two enhanced armor plates with complex I would get 559. OH MY GOD IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD! >>>>>.......So you are ok with 3 COMPLEX shield extenders having LESS HP value, than 2 ENH armor plates. 5- Enhanced plates suck arse too actually in terms of CPU/PG, it's just that in order to compete at the higher end armor tanks have to use those. I agree that basics are a wee bit ridiculous. I would much prefer it if armor went 55/82/165 as it more closely resembles shields in terms of HP increase. Now before you say anything about the HP values being too high, what I did was took shields HP and did 2.5x. Armor has to use up half of it's slots for regen, and the HP ceiling is supposed to be higher. >>>>>>>>I will from now on consider you biased in this issue.165 HP?LOL. More like 40 - 80 - 120 HP...lol 6- Basic plates just aren't competitive enough at the higher end since you have to fit armor repairers too, but other than that yes, look above. >>>>>>>Its been PROVEN,taht combat wise Higher HP value > Higher regen value. So having 500 Armor and 5HP per sec is alway going to be better than having 380 HP and 10 REP. PROVEN DUST514 FACT. Sure, AA has a lot to do with this,but its still a fact. Imagine you have a clone, with your exact skill level,exact character,exact aiming capabilities,etc... The Cat Merc with 500 HP with 5 REP will come on top of your 380HP 10 HP REGEN Fit AND your caldari 6% faster suit with 31 Shield regen per sec,...lol And what you save on plates you will have taken back from you with armor repairers, those are expensive as ** in any way you look at it and you have to fit complex or else you have a regen. BTW That Caldari fit I'm talking about? Has a complex damage mod. >>>>>>>>ONE DAMAGE MOD?! how many does your GAl has? And even stuck with a gek you will end up doing MORE damage while being cheaper AND having more HP,for a mer 6% speed I'm trying to avoid getting into long drawn out arguments where both sides just try to get the last word in, but I gotta say this. You keep making claims of how things are supposedly proven or fact, but I don't think you understand what these words mean and its pretty annoying, nor do you even provide the supposed proof. Higher HP is indeed better for 1 on 1 fight, but higher regeneration has the edge for long term survivability. You claim that higher HP is just plain better is not indeed a fact. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt** Gû¦Gû+