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T8R Raid BIG BAD W0LVES 130	Posted - 2014.01.15 20:01:00 - [1] - Quote i hate using the flavor of the month, it's never what i like using. feels like im cheating when i do... i guess im of the only people who doesnt like that cheaty feel... worthless morals, what good they ever done me? Unchecked dishonesty can promote the perception that one must cheat to remain competitive.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 153	Posted - 2014.01.15 20:03:00 - [2] - Quote then...you know, don't use it.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1526	Posted - 2014.01.15 20:04:00 - [3] - Quote I always like to give it a try just to see how overpowered it is before I make judgement from only being on the receiving end. I don't really like using the FotM because I feel it gimps me as a player, but it is worth trying to gain a better understanding of WHY its OP, so that you can offer better feedback on how to fix it. 1.8 Analysis - Sentinel Damage Efficiency Calcs
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Public Disorder. 369	Posted - 2014.01.15 20:08:00 - [4] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I always like to give it a try just to see how overpowered it is before I make judgement from only being on the receiving end. I don't really like using the FotM because I feel it gimps me as a player, but it is worth trying to gain a better understanding of WHY its OP, so that you can offer better feedback on how to fix it. Reminds of me college days. Learn how to write all these viruses and malware. Why? You'll get a better idea of how to protect against something when you know how it works Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
Aisha Ctarl Pradox One Proficiency V. 2852	Posted - 2014.01.15 20:08:00 - [5] - Quote FoTM = Gallente Assault g.k0 or Logistics g.k0 armor tanked to hell and back ,as long as you're not using that, you're good. Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 891	Posted - 2014.01.15 20:14:00 - [6] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: FoTM = Gallente Assault g.k0 or Logistics g.k0 armor tanked to hell and back ,as long as you're not using that, you're good. The Assault suit is good but not so good that it's > every thing else Logistics is something else tho. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1526	Posted - 2014.01.15 20:15:00 - [7] - Quote I will never abandon my little Sever BPO Minmatar Logistics. We go way back together.. 1.8 Analysis - Sentinel Damage Efficiency Calcs
THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 368	Posted - 2014.01.15 20:19:00 - [8] - Quote Put my SP into what I enjoyed playing so I didn't turn into one of those whiney chumps asking for a respec every week. Electronic Warfare GOD in the making
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2116	Posted - 2014.01.15 20:31:00 - [9] - Quote I'm all over the place. Nerfed, buffed - doesn't matter. I can put together a counter package and move on. Doesn't make it any less frustrating, but it really helps to have some diversity in your game from the beginning and to just take the ass whippings you're due along the way. Natalie Portman.
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1432	Posted - 2014.01.15 20:42:00 - [10] - Quote T8R Raid wrote: i hate using the flavor of the month, it's never what i like using. feels like im cheating when i do... i guess im of the only people who doesnt like that cheaty feel... worthless morals, what good they ever done me? Then like don't use it ? Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"

lee corwood Knights Of Ender Public Disorder. 371	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:10:00 - [11] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I will never abandon my little Sever BPO Minmatar Logistics. We go way back together.. You mean until they take it away from us... Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 610	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:18:00 - [12] - Quote I trained tanks just so I could kill tanks. I hate them. They're not maneuverable, always get caught on things, slow, primed by almost everybody, and I must always be in a rail tank because blasters and missiles are worthless against the rail tank that is almost guaranteed to be called out against me. Plus they're expensive. I know that goes against the current hive mind of the forums, but I use actually good tanks (ADV turrets and complex mods) and they still cost around 250k each. My dropship survives rails better than my tanks do because of it's maneuverability. With a tank, I just have to sit and take it or attempt to run away. Considering one gets blown up in about 3sec from a railgun, that can end up being a lot of cash. (Missiles are super fun though. They're tank's hard mode.) Dropship Specialist Kills- Incubus: 4; Pythons: 1; Other DS: 28 Gêå1; Tanks: 27 Gêå2 1/1
Onesimus Tarsus 839	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:20:00 - [13] - Quote lee corwood wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: I will never abandon my little Sever BPO Minmatar Logistics. We go way back together.. You mean until they take it away from us... Yep, it's the CCP way. I got my hand around the pistol grip, and the safety's off.
ResistanceGTA Valor Tactical Operations Immortal Coalition of New-Eden 95	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:47:00 - [14] - Quote Its really fun when you're specced into the FotM way before its cool, but you don't want to use it because you know anyone you kill will just think you're FotM chasing. I miss my GalLogi... All of that proto equipment and less health than every Caldari suit I've ever seen in the game, but I'm still just a guy using OP stuff. Too bad it was total sh*t for a long time, when only the cool logis used it.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 681	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:49:00 - [15] - Quote T8R Raid wrote: i hate using the flavor of the month, it's never what i like using. feels like im cheating when i do... i guess im of the only people who doesnt like that cheaty feel... worthless morals, what good they ever done me? Its a video game. stop caring about things that dont matter. fotm? who the hell cares you play your game and they will play theres. Thats how they have fun and you have no right to say anything about it.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5742	Posted - 2014.01.15 22:06:00 - [16] - Quote What is FoTM right now? Rail Rifles and High EHP bricked Gallente Logi? "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2117	Posted - 2014.01.15 22:15:00 - [17] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: T8R Raid wrote: i hate using the flavor of the month, it's never what i like using. feels like im cheating when i do... i guess im of the only people who doesnt like that cheaty feel... worthless morals, what good they ever done me? Its a video game. stop caring about things that dont matter. fotm? who the hell cares you play your game and they will play theres. Thats how they have fun and you have no right to say anything about it. You realise that his point is as valid as yours? Some people like a challenge, others seek to make things as efficient as possible (fotm) neithers bad really. The cooking of core locus while strafing though, I believe that's as low as it gets, its literally counting to 2 or 3 lol. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 110	Posted - 2014.01.15 22:52:00 - [18] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I always like to give it a try just to see how overpowered it is before I make judgement from only being on the receiving end. I don't really like using the FotM because I feel it gimps me as a player, but it is worth trying to gain a better understanding of WHY its OP, so that you can offer better feedback on how to fix it. Here is an example where people were crying that the rail rifles and combat rifles are dramatically powerful. I am level 5 in CR along with level 2 CRP and a level 4 in RR. Here is my take on the weapons. Combat Rifle: + Highest RoF for a light weapon + A true beast in close-quarters to average in medium ranged combat + Fun to use + Can take down an unsuspecting or a one-on-one heavy down fast only if all bullets connect - Can eat through an entire magazine fast - Not the ideal weapon of choice when it comes to long-ranged battle - The enormous amount of kick can decide life or death to the user if shot in rapid burst for the normal variant or under continuous fire for the assault variant - Takes a less sufficient time to reload I will say the Rof @ 1200 rpm for each combat rifle at increasing damage makes this gun what it is. I will say it is powerful as all get out. Stack damage mods and you will see the time to kill with this gun decrease quickly and those long range battles are not as difficult now. To fix this either lower the RoF (all variants) or for the regular variant increase the time delay to fire. Rail Rifle + Best Long-range weapon if not using a sniper + Damage equivalent to a Breach AR and shoots slightly faster than a Breach in my opinion + The assault variant can shred ANYONE down or in the line of fire + Great at the standard level - The amount of kick from STD>ADV>PRO is flip-flopped. The Pro feels like the gun is going everywhere but the STD seems perfectly stable. - Small magazine size for both the regular and assault variants. - The 1/4 second charge-up time does affect the tide of a gun fight. You either must continue firing or take another 1/4 to charge-up firing again. Also hip-firing the gun, the dispersion is like a "jumping jack rabbit". - Reloading takes forever due to the additional time added to charge-up firing the gun I will say the Assault variant is truly powerful along with the regular version equivalating to the same power level. Staking damage mods on this means nothing should survive your bullet barrage unless they are lucky to escape. But for some reason that quarter second seems small for the amount of power this gun is putting out. Either decrease the damage slightly, increase the charge-up time, or make it less effective in close-quarters. Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Tends to flip the table when seeing the words: YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 683	Posted - 2014.01.17 00:25:00 - [19] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: T8R Raid wrote: i hate using the flavor of the month, it's never what i like using. feels like im cheating when i do... i guess im of the only people who doesnt like that cheaty feel... worthless morals, what good they ever done me? Its a video game. stop caring about things that dont matter. fotm? who the hell cares you play your game and they will play theres. Thats how they have fun and you have no right to say anything about it. You realise that his point is as valid as yours? Some people like a challenge, others seek to make things as efficient as possible (fotm) neithers bad really. The cooking of core locus while strafing though, I believe that's as low as it gets, its literally counting to 2 or 3 lol. And so? whats your point? that you want them to do as you say? if you dont like how they play then leave. otherwise stop complaining and take them down.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 553	Posted - 2014.01.17 07:35:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: What is FoTM right now? Rail Rifles and High EHP bricked Gallente Logi? Dual tanking and the new Rifles. Yes, more rails than combat.

Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5	Posted - 2014.01.17 08:23:00 - [21] - Quote A while ago I started considering throwing a light weapon on a cheap heavy suit with reppers on the lows to see if it would make a functional, though limited assault suit. I'd seen it done with the AR before but never thought it was used very well. I just wanted to see if I could make a Heavy suit into a wider functioning role with a bit more flexibility, I've spent >6 months forced into either CQC with a logi at my side, or on a roof with a forge, kinda wanted to see how the other half lived. Plus sometimes you just wanna run a simple build, not be pigeon holed into only one area of the battle. I was sick of seeing "duvolle" showing up in the kill feed so refused to skill into AR. Even skilled into the scrambler rifle and tried it out with the AScR, worked pretty well I liked it, somewhat limiting though due to slower speed, had to try and predict battles and move on them to be waiting in the flank, couldn't chase kills. The assault variant was unnecessarily expensive though, both in ISK and fitting. Decided to wait for the new weapons before trying a different one. The moment 1.7 dropped I used all my vehicle SP refunded to get RR at Prof 3, ran around with a SMG side arm for CQC. Quite enjoyed it... And then a few weeks go by an apparently I'm a FotM chaser... huh...
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 7914	Posted - 2014.01.17 08:39:00 - [22] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: FoTM = Gallente Assault g.k0 or Logistics g.k0 armor tanked to hell and back ,as long as you're not using that, you're good. Gallogi is definitely the FotM. Galassault? Have you ever used it? I know you use the Amarr assault, so let me compare it to that. The Galassault can get perhaps 100 HP more than an Amarr assault in armour, while not having any decent bonuses and being much, Mich tighter on fitting. Fitting full complex on Amarr assault is easy. You can't get anywhere near that with the Galassault. Gallogi, of course, blows everything else out of the water. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
McFurious TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 474	Posted - 2014.01.17 08:42:00 - [23] - Quote True Adamance wrote: What is FoTM right now? Rail Rifles and High EHP bricked Gallente Logi? Tanks, rail Rifles, and combat Rifles. 3 flavors at once. Every match. Every. Single. Match. Half Irish. Often angry. Closed Beta Masshole
T8R Raid BIG BAD W0LVES 137	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:03:00 - [24] - Quote McFurious wrote: True Adamance wrote: What is FoTM right now? Rail Rifles and High EHP bricked Gallente Logi? Tanks, rail Rifles, and combat Rifles. 3 flavors at once. Every match. Every. Single. Match. Can't go a single match without seeing an entire squad with rail rifles and tanks. Usually see 5 tanks and at least 9 rail rifles in every game. So now, either use a rail rifle or quit playing. Good FPS developers dont have a flavor of the month. this 100 meter stand back and shoot is boring and requires 0 strategy. Welcome to space call of duty 51yawn4 Unchecked dishonesty can promote the perception that one must cheat to remain competitive.


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