It'd be nice to either get more range for ranged fights or get more damage and better reload for CQ.

The rail turret is great at CQ with it's burst function. The rail turret is great at long range. The blaster is great at CQ.

I really love missiles and want to use it on the tank they were meant for. But, because of the effectiveness of the rail and blaster the large missile turret just doesn't cut it as medium to CQ. It works better on a madrugar.

I still don't understand why a mddy should be able to easily fit a rail and missile vs the caldari tank.

As it stands I have to dance too much around another tank in CQ and at that point can't do enough damage fast enough vs. the damage a blaster or rail can put out for the amount of time I can keep hardeners up. I can't then roll away without being taken out if I don't take the other tank out in a couple or so volleys.

There is no reason a missile tank should have to worry about a rail at CQ and no reason why I should have to go madrugar just to make a rail and missile more effective in an extended fight.

If the shield tank is supposed to be hit and run then it should dish a buttload more damage with missiles.

Are you kidding that thing can take out hardened maddys.

It'd be nice to either get more range for ranged fights or get more damage and better reload for CQ.

The rail turret is great at CQ with it's burst function. The rail turret is great at long range. The blaster is great at CQ.

I really love missiles and want to use it on the tank they were meant for. But, because of the effectiveness of the rail and blaster the large missile turret just doesn't cut it as medium to CQ. It works better on a madrugar.

I still don't understand why a mddy should be able to easily fit a rail and missile vs the caldari tank.

As it stands I have to dance too much around another tank in CQ and at that point can't do enough damage fast enough vs. the damage a blaster or rail can put out for the amount of time I can keep hardeners up. I can't then roll away without being taken out if I don't take the other tank out in a couple or so volleys.

There is no reason a missile tank should have to worry about a rail at CQ and no reason why I should have to go madrugar just to make a rail and missile more effective in an extended fight.

If the shield tank is supposed to be hit and run then it should dish a buttload more damage with missiles.

you must not have proto missiles yet that thing is a tank killer in PC.

Missile Gunnlogi >>> Any Maddy bar rails.

Hardener plus extender can survive even Ion cannons up close and completely wall missiles, 2 hardeners staggered last longer than armor hardeners with low cooldown time Missiles punch through hardeners with ease. Only difficulty is the reload and second shot, but with skills that's minimized.

The problem with missiles is their accuracy, reload, and effectiveness against shield tanks. Lower the variation of each missile and add a shotgun style reload as mentioned before. For shield tanks, I'd like an EM missile variant that does 20% more damage to shield and -20% to armor (I made a thread that had much more detail, just search "EM Missile" and find my name). The EM missile would be balanced because it's only practically useful against 1 type of tank, and considering you're spending 50x the SP just to get to missiles, it makes sense that they get a little extra.

I only go into cqc with my tanker alts proto large missile turret if I have a confirmed tank target to ambush, otherwise its clearly a medium - long range bombardment turret but I can snipe people easy with it, it just needs a splash radius increase.

Its just one of those things you pick if you enjoy a challenge, I'd be bored entirely of dust if everything was as 'efficient' as people seem to want.

Ps missiles have targeting systems, rockets do not, wtf missile turret? Lol