DUST Search - Trying to teach someone new to FPS to play DUST...

Eko Sol wrote:

lee corwood wrote:

Eko Sol wrote:

Necandi Brasil wrote:

It's almost impossible without PvE...
Can't stress how much we need PvE ... even if it's a simple gamemode, that gives you poor ISK/SP.
Has anyone had the same trouble?

I think if PvE were to exist it would also open doors to small campaigns and in house tournaments for corperations. I think that the simple benefits are obvious but it is also the other crazy awesome stuff you can do. I mean, imagine racing LAV's for corp ISK or making bets on accomplishing things within the environment.

I think the PvE should have the option of choosing a side as well so that you can properly train people and make your own in house mini games.

There is already a thread out there that talks about the benefit of training servers for corps: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=93506

Give it a thumbs up and/or some feedback. It needs to get more attention even if it will be a few years before we actually get it.

That is an old thread, are we allowed to bump it? What does CCP normally prefer?

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Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention 689	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:13:00 - [1] - Quote It's almost impossible without PvE... Can't stress how much we need PvE ... even if it's a simple gamemode, that gives you poor ISK/SP. Has anyone had the same trouble? Tanks 514! Cheap, fast, Indestructible and you see tankers telling it's balanced... Just makes you want to quit this BS
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 17	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:22:00 - [2] - Quote After recently playing Borderlands 2 I can now understand how decent PVE is actually realyl good fun and would work amazingly in DUST. I have always been a critic of 'single player' games and even co-op VS A.I type games - pretty much since online gameplay stole my heart back with Unreal Tournament on the old Dialup modem ..... ahh dialup.... I dont even think we measured ping back then it was so high , did we? lol. Anyway yes PVE would help new players starting off, PVE would be good fun for even us older mercs , a nice change of pace when we just want to blow off some steam. The EVE universe has SO many different pirate groups and enemy corporations they have such a supply of potential 'bad guys'. Sansha with their invasions into our territory. Blood Raiders with their vamperic technology. The Serpentis with their sleek mafia type ways. And many many more entities. This game has SOO much potential its incredible, I just honestly hope they get there sometime.
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1043	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:27:00 - [3] - Quote A couple of drones wandering in circles on an open map; no ISK or SP rewards. That's all it would need. +1 RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 118	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:34:00 - [4] - Quote Best way would be practise mode... Because they said that they will have practise area where you could try all weapons. And they said it will be soon... (they said it the last summer or spring if I remember correctly, so I guess we will not have practise mode) I support BPO removal; RDV to take your vehicles back; and racial weapons on starter fits
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Public Disorder. 361	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:39:00 - [5] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: It's almost impossible. Your sentence is too long. I fixed it for you. The set up for new players is atrocious and the only way we keep new players today is through the community. (some of the community at least) Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
Kharga Lum Arcana Imperii Ltd. 231	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:43:00 - [6] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: After recently playing Borderlands 2 I can now understand how decent PVE is actually realyl good fun and would work amazingly in DUST. I have always been a critic of 'single player' games and even co-op VS A.I type games - pretty much since online gameplay stole my heart back with Unreal Tournament on the old Dialup modem ..... ahh dialup.... I dont even think we measured ping back then it was so high , did we? lol. Anyway yes PVE would help new players starting off, PVE would be good fun for even us older mercs , a nice change of pace when we just want to blow off some steam. The EVE universe has SO many different pirate groups and enemy corporations they have such a supply of potential 'bad guys'. Sansha with their invasions into our territory. Blood Raiders with their vamperic technology. The Serpentis with their sleek mafia type ways. And many many more entities. This game has SOO much potential its incredible, I just honestly hope they get there sometime. People have been asking for PVE since beta. The detail and history of New Eden would be awesome to explore. The trick would be connecting it to Eve in some way. Sleeper stations or Drone stations incursions by mercs.
Eko Sol 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 38	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:46:00 - [7] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: It's almost impossible without PvE... Can't stress how much we need PvE ... even if it's a simple gamemode, that gives you poor ISK/SP. Has anyone had the same trouble? I think if PvE were to exist it would also open doors to small campaigns and in house tournaments for corperations. I think that the simple benefits are obvious but it is also the other crazy awesome stuff you can do. I mean, imagine racing LAV's for corp ISK or making bets on accomplishing things within the environment. I think the PvE should have the option of choosing a side as well so that you can properly train people and make your own in house mini games.
Chaos Scum Warcaste 9	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:49:00 - [8] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: It's almost impossible without PvE... Can't stress how much we need PvE ... even if it's a simple gamemode, that gives you poor ISK/SP. Has anyone had the same trouble? punch them in the face, it will be more satisfying for you and them. Don't hate me because I'm dutiful.
Zelorian Dexter snr Nex Miles Militis 168	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:50:00 - [9] - Quote Personally I try to help a noob a week with our corp. Sure a lot suck and can't get there head around the skill tree and fittings. That said I have found some amazing players doing this. Who have stayed with dust and are now committed players. Also I have found also as they grow up with the proto stompers there skill grows quickly and become very deadly very quickly.
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Public Disorder. 361	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:51:00 - [10] - Quote Eko Sol wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: It's almost impossible without PvE... Can't stress how much we need PvE ... even if it's a simple gamemode, that gives you poor ISK/SP. Has anyone had the same trouble? I think if PvE were to exist it would also open doors to small campaigns and in house tournaments for corperations. I think that the simple benefits are obvious but it is also the other crazy awesome stuff you can do. I mean, imagine racing LAV's for corp ISK or making bets on accomplishing things within the environment. I think the PvE should have the option of choosing a side as well so that you can properly train people and make your own in house mini games. There is already a thread out there that talks about the benefit of training servers for corps: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=93506 Give it a thumbs up and/or some feedback. It needs to get more attention even if it will be a few years before we actually get it. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick

Eko Sol 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 38	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:58:00 - [11] - Quote lee corwood wrote: Eko Sol wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: It's almost impossible without PvE... Can't stress how much we need PvE ... even if it's a simple gamemode, that gives you poor ISK/SP. Has anyone had the same trouble? I think if PvE were to exist it would also open doors to small campaigns and in house tournaments for corperations. I think that the simple benefits are obvious but it is also the other crazy awesome stuff you can do. I mean, imagine racing LAV's for corp ISK or making bets on accomplishing things within the environment. I think the PvE should have the option of choosing a side as well so that you can properly train people and make your own in house mini games. There is already a thread out there that talks about the benefit of training servers for corps: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=93506 Give it a thumbs up and/or some feedback. It needs to get more attention even if it will be a few years before we actually get it. That is an old thread, are we allowed to bump it? What does CCP normally prefer?
Kharga Lum Arcana Imperii Ltd. 232	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:58:00 - [12] - Quote Having a mission builder would be nice. Call it "Training ground construction" or whatever. Basically an overly complex obstacle course built by players for players populated with "target drones". Scored, timed or anything.
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Public Disorder. 361	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:22:00 - [13] - Quote Eko Sol wrote: lee corwood wrote: Eko Sol wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: It's almost impossible without PvE... Can't stress how much we need PvE ... even if it's a simple gamemode, that gives you poor ISK/SP. Has anyone had the same trouble? I think if PvE were to exist it would also open doors to small campaigns and in house tournaments for corperations. I think that the simple benefits are obvious but it is also the other crazy awesome stuff you can do. I mean, imagine racing LAV's for corp ISK or making bets on accomplishing things within the environment. I think the PvE should have the option of choosing a side as well so that you can properly train people and make your own in house mini games. There is already a thread out there that talks about the benefit of training servers for corps: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=93506 Give it a thumbs up and/or some feedback. It needs to get more attention even if it will be a few years before we actually get it. That is an old thread, are we allowed to bump it? What does CCP normally prefer? Someone bumped it just yesterday. EDIT: and to clarify, I think CCP likes it better when we use the 'search' functionality to speak to things already being said. Can't tell you how many times the community has chided me via 'gosh, someone already wrote a post on this, geez'. Also, the original source has some outstanding feedback that I want CCP to pay attention to. It needs all the bumps/feedback it can get. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1593	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:29:00 - [14] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: It's almost impossible without PvE... Can't stress how much we need PvE ... even if it's a simple gamemode, that gives you poor ISK/SP. Has anyone had the same trouble? VERY MUCH THIS. It would stop the "let me jump into a tank so I die less" crowd.
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 274	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:31:00 - [15] - Quote Calling Jadek for challenge, calling Jadek. The biggest threat to my scout is everything. My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
Eko Sol 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 40	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:32:00 - [16] - Quote Bumped the other topic with my input.
The Robot Devil molon labe. Public Disorder. 1557	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:34:00 - [17] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: After recently playing Borderlands 2 I can now understand how decent PVE is actually realyl good fun and would work amazingly in DUST. I have always been a critic of 'single player' games and even co-op VS A.I type games - pretty much since online gameplay stole my heart back with Unreal Tournament on the old Dialup modem ..... ahh dialup.... I dont even think we measured ping back then it was so high , did we? lol. Anyway yes PVE would help new players starting off, PVE would be good fun for even us older mercs , a nice change of pace when we just want to blow off some steam. The EVE universe has SO many different pirate groups and enemy corporations they have such a supply of potential 'bad guys'. Sansha with their invasions into our territory. Blood Raiders with their vamperic technology. The Serpentis with their sleek mafia type ways. And many many more entities. This game has SOO much potential its incredible, I just honestly hope they get there sometime. You knew your ping when the modem reported the connection at 14400 bps. I had a 56k that would connect at 63600 on a penitum MMX. Good times. 48mb of ram, almost seems like a joke now. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
Ripcord19981 KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 331	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:47:00 - [18] - Quote i tried to get some friends into it but they like Cod and BF3 better because its funner and easier to play. Also, if i were a new player, i would have quit too its just a smack in the face as soon as you step out of academy. I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either. Turkey sammich>taco
Eko Sol 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 41	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:03:00 - [19] - Quote Ripcord19981 wrote: i tried to get some friends into it but they like Cod and BF3 better because its funner and easier to play. Also, if i were a new player, i would have quit too its just a smack in the face as soon as you step out of academy. So it was very rough when I first started but I didn't have any issues with that until i started to hit the 4mil mark. I started realizing that, although I was doing better, it wasn't good enough. It wasn't quantifiable until I broke 5mil that I can do well in the game. But I still get "proto" stomped. Normally it's really a "wtf, this guy got me. Time for revenge" stomp. I seem to bring out the proto revenge now more so than any other time.
doingmostofthecash and more 1 4 THE MONEY 2 4 THE SHOW 0	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:08:00 - [20] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: It's almost impossible without PvE... Can't stress how much we need PvE ... even if it's a simple gamemode, that gives you poor ISK/SP. Has anyone had the same trouble? have the same problem.everytime i try to teach someone to play we getting **** by full proto nyan san :(

Ripcord19981 KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 332	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:16:00 - [21] - Quote Eko Sol wrote: Ripcord19981 wrote: i tried to get some friends into it but they like Cod and BF3 better because its funner and easier to play. Also, if i were a new player, i would have quit too its just a smack in the face as soon as you step out of academy. So it was very rough when I first started but I didn't have any issues with that until i started to hit the 4mil mark. I started realizing that, although I was doing better, it wasn't good enough. It wasn't quantifiable until I broke 5mil that I can do well in the game. But I still get "proto" stomped. Normally it's really a "wtf, this guy got me. Time for revenge" stomp. I seem to bring out the proto revenge now more so than any other time. EDIT: I'm currently at 5.5 mil SP but unless things go terribly wrong I'm either break even or profitable via ISK. I also tend to break 1k in WP pretty much every game unless I decide to soley snipe for S&G's. I'm not that good at it so typically only get a few kills. well i applaud you for sticking around I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either. Turkey sammich>taco
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2586	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:27:00 - [22] - Quote It's very much possible, it just takes the individual themselves to understand what you're expressing. I have found that playing Dust 514 has improved my FPS game as a whole. I see it when I dabble with other FPS titles and I come in with a monstrous brute force that's unlike my gameplay before Dust 514. It's the old saying...you can lead the horse to water... Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
GET ATMESON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 226	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:28:00 - [23] - Quote If someone is new 100% to FPS they will have a hard time just learning how to shoot and keeping the gun on them. Then youll have to help him with the RPG background that goes with it. Open Beta Fed 16th 2013. Scout fix + Heavy suits + Heavy guns = soonGäó
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1505	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:32:00 - [24] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: Best way would be practise mode... Because they said that they will have practise area where you could try all weapons. And they said it will be soon... (they said it the last summer or spring if I remember correctly, so I guess we will not have practise mode) They never said that would be soon, they said that would be something they would like to add. Theres a ton of things they want to add but are restricted in manpower. Marston VC, STB Director
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention 692	Posted - 2014.01.15 08:14:00 - [25] - Quote Ripcord19981 wrote: i tried to get some friends into it but they like Cod and BF3 better because its funner and easier to play. Also, if i were a new player, i would have quit too its just a smack in the face as soon as you step out of academy. This is the worst IMO... After the academy you'll probably be proto stomped... Tanks 514! Cheap, fast, Indestructible and you see tankers telling it's balanced... Just makes you want to quit this BS
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 654	Posted - 2014.01.15 08:23:00 - [26] - Quote Dust uses all my fps experience to do well. I couldn't imagine learning for game play with what, that's hardcore man, talk about trial by fire. On the bright side, every other fps will be easier for him after playing dust lol
thomas mak STRONG-ARMED BANDITS Public Disorder. 18	Posted - 2014.01.15 08:35:00 - [27] - Quote I remember my first day of dust is to walk around and fire at what I see one time I saw a tank and go in and kill many redberrie and then I start study tanks and at last I became a tanker lol *Real tanker dies with their tanks!*
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 567	Posted - 2014.01.15 08:49:00 - [28] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: Best way would be practise mode... Because they said that they will have practise area where you could try all weapons. And they said it will be soon... (they said it the last summer or spring if I remember correctly, so I guess we will not have practise mode) Yeah I remember they mentioned this at the last fanfest... but then again, a lot of what they mentioned at the last fanfest never came to pass.... of course losing their executive producer right after fanfest probably didn't help...


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