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DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3250	Posted - 2014.01.14 04:46:00 - [1] - Quote Feels more accurate, higher damage at range, faster reload, better sight, bigger mag, better recoil, cooler firing sound... Is there anything besides ISK cost that makes the AR more attractive than the Assault Scrambler Rifle? You wanna battle / Aztec's not afraid of you / I could care less about your reputation / Even though it maybe true.
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 356	Posted - 2014.01.14 04:49:00 - [2] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Feels more accurate, higher damage at range, faster reload, better sight, bigger mag, better recoil, cooler firing sound... Is there anything besides ISK cost that makes the AR more attractive than the Assault Scrambler Rifle? All rifles> AR
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9974	Posted - 2014.01.14 04:49:00 - [3] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Feels more accurate, higher damage at range, faster reload, better sight, bigger mag, better recoil, cooler firing sound... Is there anything besides ISK cost that makes the AR more attractive than the Assault Scrambler Rifle? All rifles> AR Beat me to it Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Dropship Pilot
NIGGSWORM The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 365	Posted - 2014.01.14 04:49:00 - [4] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Feels more accurate, higher damage at range, faster reload, better sight, bigger mag, better recoil, cooler firing sound... Is there anything besides ISK cost that makes the AR more attractive than the Assault Scrambler Rifle? All rifles> AR AR has the worst Aim down sights, worst range (probably same as the SMG) and has the most spread and less DMG per sec than its counter parts. Also, don't even try to kill anything beyond 30m, you cannot track it with AR nor can you hit it and nor can you even fking see it.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5013	Posted - 2014.01.14 04:50:00 - [5] - Quote Dispersion is the main problem and there is no sharpshooter skill to correct that. I actually like the charge scrambler rifle better, but have been using the assault scrambler rifle a lot more recently because it simply fits better with my suppression style gamestyle in the Commando suit. And as a side note, just the other day I overheated on a CRD-9 for the first time without intentionally trying to. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 670	Posted - 2014.01.14 04:54:00 - [6] - Quote The AR is a glorified paper weight now. The only suit I have it on is my uplink suit and that's because that suit is useless after I drop the uplinks and the AR is a Toxin to minimize the suits cost. CCP: Is it the most asinine way possible to do this? Yes. Then that's how we're doing it.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3250	Posted - 2014.01.14 04:58:00 - [7] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Dispersion is the main problem and there is no sharpshooter skill to correct that. It has practically no dispersion in ADS anyhow, at least none I notice and hipfire is tighter than the SMG. You wanna battle / Aztec's not afraid of you / I could care less about your reputation / Even though it maybe true.
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 359	Posted - 2014.01.14 05:00:00 - [8] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Dispersion is the main problem and there is no sharpshooter skill to correct that. It has practically no dispersion in ADS anyhow, at least none I notice and hipfire is tighter than the SMG. Don't even compare AR to the SMG, the SMG is in a whole different league. The SMG is good unlike AR.
NIGGSWORM The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 365	Posted - 2014.01.14 05:00:00 - [9] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Dispersion is the main problem and there is no sharpshooter skill to correct that. It has practically no dispersion in ADS anyhow, at least none I notice and hipfire is tighter than the SMG. Don't even compare AR to the SMG, the SMG is in a whole different league. The SMG is good unlike AR.
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 473	Posted - 2014.01.14 05:06:00 - [10] - Quote if you have the skill the scrambler is better. The basic ar is hard to win with, but the Gek is easily one of the best weapons pound for pound. Price,cpu/pg/range/ammo/fire rate/sp reqs and skill tree make the gek easily an all around great weapon. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5565	Posted - 2014.01.14 05:29:00 - [11] - Quote If a newberry entered the game right now and looked at posts pre Uprising 1.7, he would wonder why the noobs are complaining about the worst rifle. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
GET ATMESON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 223	Posted - 2014.01.14 05:32:00 - [12] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Feels more accurate, higher damage at range, faster reload, better sight, bigger mag, better recoil, cooler firing sound... Is there anything besides ISK cost that makes the AR more attractive than the Assault Scrambler Rifle? All rifles> AR AR has the worst Aim down sights, worst range (probably same as the SMG) and has the most spread and less DMG per sec than its counter parts. Also, don't even try to kill anything beyond 30m, you cannot track it with AR nor can you hit it and nor can you even fking see it. Isnt it about time the AR got knocked down a peg. The AR has been FOTY (flavor of the year) for most players. Its nice to be killed by something else but the TTK has gone up so much. New guns + Damage mods > EHP Open Beta Fed 16th 2013. Scout fix + Heavy suits + Heavy guns = soonGäó
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1972	Posted - 2014.01.14 05:48:00 - [13] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Dispersion is the main problem and there is no sharpshooter skill to correct that. I actually like the charge scrambler rifle better, but have been using the assault scrambler rifle a lot more recently because it simply fits better with my suppression style gamestyle in the Commando suit. And as a side note, just the other day I overheated on a CRD-9 for the first time without intentionally trying to. Have you tried shooting the AR while moving? The damn thing sprays everywhere, which as the shortest range weapon...that should be the one thing it can do better then the other rifles. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3253	Posted - 2014.01.14 10:22:00 - [14] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Dispersion is the main problem and there is no sharpshooter skill to correct that. I actually like the charge scrambler rifle better, but have been using the assault scrambler rifle a lot more recently because it simply fits better with my suppression style gamestyle in the Commando suit. And as a side note, just the other day I overheated on a CRD-9 for the first time without intentionally trying to. Have you tried shooting the AR while moving? The damn thing sprays everywhere, which as the shortest range weapon...that should be the one thing it can do better then the other rifles. The AR is an.annoying weapon to use while moving. You wanna battle / Aztec's not afraid of you / I could care less about your reputation / Even though it maybe true.
jordy mack Ultramarine Corp 95	Posted - 2014.01.14 10:57:00 - [15] - Quote Well well, an AR QQ thread...... Bout time... :) Less QQ more PewPew
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 953	Posted - 2014.01.14 11:02:00 - [16] - Quote jordy mack wrote: Well well, an AR QQ thread...... Bout time... :) Your post directly contradicts your signature. Is it supposed to be ironic in some obscure way? Buff passive scans & fix TTK! My Closed Beta Alts - Overlord Ulath, Overlord Bosse, Overlord Zero
xxwhitedevilxx M Ave atque Vale. 1478	Posted - 2014.01.14 11:08:00 - [17] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Feels more accurate, better recoil. Is there anything besides ISK cost that makes the AR more attractive than the Assault Scrambler Rifle? ? I don't really know about you, but to me ARs are way more accurate than ASCR, and absolutely have zero recoil while ASCR keeps a good dispersion...There you go, here's your drawbacks. Now, tell me why should I use anything else besides the Combat Rifle- Tank 514.
Horizen Kenpachi TACTICAL STRIKE ELITE 92	Posted - 2014.01.14 11:11:00 - [18] - Quote Music to my ears ar shold be left out or only used on starter fits as its a flop. Nice to have a sci fi game with awsome guns ar is not awsome looks like turd (smiles at srambler and rail on the wall) i hope we get full respecs minus ar qq makes Me wet Hit me with your nerf bat.
castba Penguin's March 282	Posted - 2014.01.14 11:17:00 - [19] - Quote Please outline where the AR received a nerf. Sure the CR & RR are better overall but isn't that more of an issue considering how OP the AR was compared to all other weapons before the intro of the CR & RR, and before its very slight range buff.
Shaira Ilv Enna-Ress Maphia Clan Corporation 18	Posted - 2014.01.14 11:33:00 - [20] - Quote I have used AR / CR / RR / ScR, all automatic versions. I personally find the AR as main all-around weapon, but when I need to kick enemies with more powerful weaponry I usually rely on the CR for short range fights, leaving the ScR for mid-range hoping that my enemy is not carrying a RR. I only use AScR when enemies rely almost only on Shields, because taking out enemy armors with that is a real pain! The RR is used for mid/long engages, on short range fights I personally find a lot of troubles using it.

Kierkegaard Soren Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 110	Posted - 2014.01.14 11:54:00 - [21] - Quote Ascr eats up ammo faster than it eats up opponents, and unlike it's charged cousin you will run out reserves without access to a hive. It's damage profile is not balanced like the AR either, and in current meta is at (a seemingly slight, to be fair) disadvantage with the prevalence of armour tanking. When 1.8 hits, and assuming the stated changes to sentinel class bonuses make it through to the game proper, this will become more pronounced. I'm predicting that the AR and RR will rule the roost simply because they can apply damage equally to both defense types. Which is not to take anything away from the ascr overall: it is a beast. But I recently moved back to the ar on my commando to compliment my scrambler and found it pretty solid. A duvolle will still turn your clone to the consistency of muddy soup in a fraction of a second from within 60m. I still respect/ hate it. Dedicated Commando. So it's a good job KDR doesn't bother me, really.
ZiwZih Seraphim Initiative.. 360	Posted - 2014.01.14 12:03:00 - [22] - Quote True men Duvolle tank. ZEN 514
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 456	Posted - 2014.01.14 15:33:00 - [23] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: if you have the skill the scrambler is better. The basic ar is hard to win with, but the Gek is easily one of the best weapons pound for pound. Price,cpu/pg/range/ammo/fire rate/sp reqs and skill tree make the gek easily an all around great weapon. The AR all in all is not a bad weapon, but it simply gets outclasses by any other rifle in Dust. So why use it? I have maxed all relevant skills in AR but now my weapon to go is the CR.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3259	Posted - 2014.01.14 19:46:00 - [24] - Quote I mean I was running with the GEK on the Gallante Scout, and it was hard to take down proto suits, extremely. Though with the Assault Scrambler Rifle I can take on people head on and come out of there looking nice. You wanna battle / Aztec's not afraid of you / I could care less about your reputation / Even though it maybe true.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2839	Posted - 2014.01.14 19:49:00 - [25] - Quote Why is the ACR the only assault variant that doesn't have iron sights? Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Dustbunny Durrr ReD or DeaD 40	Posted - 2014.01.14 20:09:00 - [26] - Quote I used to think the Assault Scrambler was AR on steroids, but it has a few deficiencies. Heat is a very minor one. Damage type is somewhat more pronounced (doing only 80% damage to armor kinda hurts at times). Hip fire is better than AR, but going fully auto at range, it has way more dispersion than an AR, especially on the back half of the clip (With the AScR the kick seems to build whereas with the AR it seems continuous). Overall its a preference, but for my use, the added cost of the AScR isn't worth the benefit. I might as well use a GEK for half the price, or more realistically a CR or RR, which are in a higher league.
Dustbunny Durrr ReD or DeaD 40	Posted - 2014.01.14 20:10:00 - [27] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Why is the ACR the only assault variant that doesn't have iron sights? Assault Combat Rifle? I think you mean Assault Scrambler Rifle (ASR), but yeah, never noticed that before.
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 883	Posted - 2014.01.14 20:14:00 - [28] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Feels more accurate, higher damage at range, faster reload, better sight, bigger mag, better recoil, cooler firing sound... Is there anything besides ISK cost that makes the AR more attractive than the Assault Scrambler Rifle? Why you doing this to my UP AR? It sucks right now. I'm resorting to the CR to effectively combat my enemies. It's to the point where every other rifle feels OP compared to the AR. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5669	Posted - 2014.01.14 20:15:00 - [29] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Why is the ACR the only assault variant that doesn't have iron sights? Cause you know how the Amarr have been up until recently this time the most advanced military force in New Eden.... nah I have no clue....but I don't see how the ASR could have iron sights. "Face the enemy as a solid wall. For faith is your armour and through it, the enemy will find no breach" -Askura 10:3
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 139	Posted - 2014.01.14 20:21:00 - [30] - Quote wtf am reading right now?!? Am I in got damn bizarre-o world right now? what happened to the ar being op and what not? all the threads about how the ar was killing evefything in sight? -_- The best part of waking up, is whiskey in my cuuuuup!

Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 610	Posted - 2014.01.14 20:24:00 - [31] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: if you have the skill the scrambler is better. The basic ar is hard to win with, but the Gek is easily one of the best weapons pound for pound. Price,cpu/pg/range/ammo/fire rate/sp reqs and skill tree make the gek easily an all around great weapon. The AR all in all is not a bad weapon, but it simply gets outclasses by any other rifle in Dust. So why use it? I have maxed all relevant skills in AR but now my weapon to go is the CR. Seeings how the AR is still better than any non-Rifle in the game, that's a pretty sad statement.
Maciej Szambelan Made in Poland... 24	Posted - 2014.01.14 20:47:00 - [32] - Quote So what are you all saying? That AR is crap? I realize that CR is better, but is there such a big difference? I started playing 2 months ago in the era of AR and I have been skilling AR, are you saying that I have waisted my SP? Won't they nerf CR and RR in 1.8? If not, I could do with respec!!
Aisha Ctarl Pradox One Proficiency V. 2847	Posted - 2014.01.14 21:14:00 - [33] - Quote I'm still doing pretty well with the AR, but I will admit that it took a major hit. One can still kill with it, but you better work for those kills now. Personally I'm using the CRD-9 with my profile dampened Amarr Assault to prepare myself for the Amarr Scout. Should have complex dampeners by tonight :D Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2847	Posted - 2014.01.14 21:15:00 - [34] - Quote Dustbunny Durrr wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Why is the ACR the only assault variant that doesn't have iron sights? Assault Combat Rifle? I think you mean Assault Scrambler Rifle (ASR), but yeah, never noticed that before. Errr yeah Assault Scrambler Rifle. Stupid acronyms. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Bunny Demon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 62	Posted - 2014.01.14 21:29:00 - [35] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: jordy mack wrote: Well well, an AR QQ thread...... Bout time... :) Your post directly contradicts your signature. Is it supposed to be ironic in some obscure way? He is clearly using sarcasism, any reasonable person should be able to see that from the intonation in his text..... Blimy don't they teach you anything these days Amarr logi ftw :D (Also...ScR is pretty good)


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