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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.01.13 01:29:00 -
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Just curious. By rifle variants, I mean -Assault Scrambler Rifles -Assault Combat Rifles -Assault Rail Rifles -Tactical Assault Rifles -Breach Assault Rifles -Burst Assault Rifles
And then non-variants would be the regular base version. When you look at the cost value at advanced and proto level, you have the following
Advanced Non-Variants: 10,770 ISK Advanced Variants: 17,625 ISK
Prototype Non-Variants: 47,220 ISK Prototype Variants: 77,280 ISK
You're looking at a 6,855 ISK difference between variant and non-variant at the Advanced level, but a 30,060 ISK difference at the Prototype level. That is a 36,450 ISK premium to go from Advanced to Prototype on non-variants, but a 59,655 ISK difference to go from Advanced to Prototype on variants.
So here's a few questions: 1) Do you use Advanced variants? 2) Do you use Prototype variants? 3) If yes to either, how often do you use them? 4) How much ISK do you have in your wallet? 5) Do you think the ISK premium on rifle variants is fair?
As for me,
1) Yes 2) Yes 3) I use Advanced variants quite frequently, but rarely use Prototype variants. 4) 75 million ISK. Enough to play the game comfortably, but not enough to ignore prices. 5) I do believe it is fair to have a premium on the variants, as to encourage the use of the base weapon. However, I believe the premium at the prototype level is ridiculous. It is more painful losing one of these than it is a prototype suit. Personally, I would like to see the price lowered to say around 60k ISK.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.01.13 01:59:00 -
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Great feedback guys, keep it up!
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.01.13 02:14:00 -
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Azri Sarum wrote:Question 5 got me curious so I took a look at the market. While the rifles and their variants cost different amounts of isk, their price in AUR is the same. Getting some mixed messages here CCP...
I think the variants isk costs are just a holdover from the past, and are just needing updating. Very interesting, going to add this to the OP.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.01.13 03:07:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:1) Do you use Advanced variants? I use the ELM.
2) Do you use Prototype variants? No
3) If yes to either, how often do you use them? Once or twice every 5 or so games.
4) How much ISK do you have in your wallet? 60M
5) Do you think the ISK premium on rifle variants is fair? Yes, I think that a merc should be able to use a better rifle because they have the skill and the money.
I just started using a standard breech AR last Thursday instead of the BPO AR I normally use. Other than that I use a BPO smg or Templar weapon. I am not a good shot so buying expensive weapons makes no sense. I spend my ISK on logi stuff and modules. Hello Robot Devil! I believe there was a miscommunication here. By advanced variants and prototype variants, I mean advanced and prototype versions of rifle variants, with the list of what that entails in the original post. The ELM-7 is an advanced variant of the laser rifle, but it is not an advanced version of a rifle variant, which is what this thread is about. Hope that clears things up.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.01.13 03:14:00 -
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Something else to consider, a prototype version of a rifle variant like the Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle or Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle cost almost as much as a well fit militia HAV.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.01.30 21:12:00 -
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Bump and added a 6th question in regards to standard grade rifle variants.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.01.30 21:59:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: 4) Why do you need this data point?
Because the rich minority in Dust who have more ISK than they could possibly ever spend don't really count in my opinion when it comes to "Is the premium fair" point since they don't even look much at the costs of their fittings.
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