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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
5611
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Posted - 2014.01.13 01:50:00 -
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DEATH DEALER 1975 wrote:I know I'm not...but I do have a question: what is the operational definition of being a "good tanker"? Is it someone that you would say #@! when you see them or is in someone that that is willing to lose a million in ISK to help his team when and is going to help take a objective even thought they know their tank is going to pop.
That. There are only a few people I see in the game worth saying that about.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall.
For faith is your armour and through it, the enemy will find no breach"
-Askura 10:3
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Slim Winning
BIG BAD W0LVES
16
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Posted - 2014.01.13 01:51:00 -
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This is circumstancial and subjective.
Technically, duna2002 is the best.
Say what you want, but he has the K/D, kills, and wins to show for it and he's never done anything but tank.
There's a list of good tankers and people who just tank. duna2002 at least stays on the front until he gets blown up. He doesn't run his modules then retreat for 2 minutes then comes back picking 1-2 easy kills. His crew destroys pubs worse than Nyain San ever could. In fact, I've seen his 4 guys destroy NS's A-Team many times. They never stood a chance.
And the fact that he doesn't PC as a corp doesn't matter.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
3865
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Posted - 2014.01.13 01:53:00 -
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Slim Winning wrote:This is circumstancial and subjective.
Technically, duna2002 is the best.
Say what you want, but he has the K/D, kills, and wins to show for it and he's never done anything but tank.
There's a list of good tankers and people who just tank. duna2002 at least stays on the front until he gets blown up. He doesn't run his modules then retreat for 2 minutes then comes back picking 1-2 easy kills. His crew destroys pubs worse than Nyain San ever could. In fact, I've seen his 4 guys destroy NS's A-Team many times. They never stood a chance.
And the fact that he doesn't PC as a corp doesn't matter.
Because he's in a ******* tank and all he does is Ambush with all Proto mods.
I wonder what he puts his SP into once he finishes maxing out tank skills |
Beld Errmon
The Southern Legion
1225
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Posted - 2014.01.13 01:55:00 -
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Slim Winning wrote:This is circumstancial and subjective.
Technically, duna2002 is the best.
Say what you want, but he has the K/D, kills, and wins to show for it and he's never done anything but tank.
There's a list of good tankers and people who just tank. duna2002 at least stays on the front until he gets blown up. He doesn't run his modules then retreat for 2 minutes then comes back picking 1-2 easy kills. His crew destroys pubs worse than Nyain San ever could. In fact, I've seen his 4 guys destroy NS's A-Team many times. They never stood a chance.
And the fact that he doesn't PC as a corp doesn't matter.
I've seen duna tank and the only reason his KDR is so high is because he bails from his tank and runs to avoid a death, saw him lose 4 Ion cannon fitted maddys in 1 match, no doubt paid for with his corps wallet. |
Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1201
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Posted - 2014.01.13 01:56:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:I'm not a tanker, so I can't speak from direct experience, but I have played with four tankers that stand above the rest. Char, Earl James, Medaman, and Hellcomeswithme. Char I respect and is an all around good tanker I have never seen Earl at list I don't think so, Medaman is B*tch in 1.6 he killed my tank with OP wykiromi swarms as I was pulling out of a hot zone and had burned though my rep, Medaman later pulled out hs tank just f***ing fight me tank to tank don't use the OP tactic he wound up losing his Scat ion fit and I recognize Hellcomeswithme probably from killing him.
Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault
Forum warrior lvl 1
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1201
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Posted - 2014.01.13 01:57:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Slim Winning wrote:This is circumstancial and subjective.
Technically, duna2002 is the best.
Say what you want, but he has the K/D, kills, and wins to show for it and he's never done anything but tank.
There's a list of good tankers and people who just tank. duna2002 at least stays on the front until he gets blown up. He doesn't run his modules then retreat for 2 minutes then comes back picking 1-2 easy kills. His crew destroys pubs worse than Nyain San ever could. In fact, I've seen his 4 guys destroy NS's A-Team many times. They never stood a chance.
And the fact that he doesn't PC as a corp doesn't matter.
Because he's in a ******* tank and all he does is Ambush with all Proto mods. I wonder what he puts his SP into once he finishes maxing out tank skills AV so he can hop out and kill you when you wreck him tank vs. tank.
Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault
Forum warrior lvl 1
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1201
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Posted - 2014.01.13 01:58:00 -
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Slim Winning wrote:This is circumstancial and subjective.
Technically, duna2002 is the best.
Say what you want, but he has the K/D, kills, and wins to show for it and he's never done anything but tank.
There's a list of good tankers and people who just tank. duna2002 at least stays on the front until he gets blown up. He doesn't run his modules then retreat for 2 minutes then comes back picking 1-2 easy kills. His crew destroys pubs worse than Nyain San ever could. In fact, I've seen his 4 guys destroy NS's A-Team many times. They never stood a chance.
And the fact that he doesn't PC as a corp doesn't matter.
His skill is numbers, it's his 5 other tank boyfriends who prevent you from ever reaching him.
Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault
Forum warrior lvl 1
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Vos Nuwem
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
45
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Posted - 2014.01.13 02:01:00 -
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Can i be tanker?
[00:21:51] jont moor > if a bhaalgorn falls in the woods and no one hears him, is he drunk?
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
5611
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Posted - 2014.01.13 02:01:00 -
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Vos Nuwem wrote:Can i be tanker?
NO!.....
Well yeah....
BUT NO!
"Face the enemy as a solid wall.
For faith is your armour and through it, the enemy will find no breach"
-Askura 10:3
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Vos Nuwem
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
45
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Posted - 2014.01.13 02:03:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Vos Nuwem wrote:Can i be tanker? NO!..... Well yeah.... BUT NO! oh well, you smashed my hopes and dreams.... off to biomass myself...
[00:21:51] jont moor > if a bhaalgorn falls in the woods and no one hears him, is he drunk?
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
5611
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Posted - 2014.01.13 02:08:00 -
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Vos Nuwem wrote:True Adamance wrote:Vos Nuwem wrote:Can i be tanker? NO!..... Well yeah.... BUT NO! oh well, you smashed my hopes and dreams.... off to biomass myself...
NOOOOO DONT DO IT.
I just wanted to spare you from the massive loss of ISK you get from learning to tank....the bitter cold nights where no one even thanks you for keeping 6 enemy HAV of their backs, and the unfulfilling state tanks are currently in.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall.
For faith is your armour and through it, the enemy will find no breach"
-Askura 10:3
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Vos Nuwem
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
45
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Posted - 2014.01.13 02:13:00 -
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i ran tanks back when missles had recoil hehe i know the costs
[00:21:51] jont moor > if a bhaalgorn falls in the woods and no one hears him, is he drunk?
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Slim Winning
BIG BAD W0LVES
16
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Posted - 2014.01.13 02:16:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Slim Winning wrote:This is circumstancial and subjective.
Technically, duna2002 is the best.
Say what you want, but he has the K/D, kills, and wins to show for it and he's never done anything but tank.
There's a list of good tankers and people who just tank. duna2002 at least stays on the front until he gets blown up. He doesn't run his modules then retreat for 2 minutes then comes back picking 1-2 easy kills. His crew destroys pubs worse than Nyain San ever could. In fact, I've seen his 4 guys destroy NS's A-Team many times. They never stood a chance.
And the fact that he doesn't PC as a corp doesn't matter.
His skill is numbers, it's his 5 other tank boyfriends who prevent you from ever reaching him.
You're right. He's a sleezeball, but he has the numbers to show for it. Faulting him for using teamwork in a team-based game is void argument. Milkman1 & CUBS are the same way, but they still got to the top and stayed there, 13ear, too.
All a tank can do is destroy and kill, so he plays the gamemode that allows only just that; ambush.
He only tanks, since he started. He's the highest posted 100% tanker, period. How he goes about it doesn't matter because he gets the results he wants.
He's the best. Has been for a long time. |
True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
5613
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Posted - 2014.01.13 02:19:00 -
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Slim Winning wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Slim Winning wrote:This is circumstancial and subjective.
Technically, duna2002 is the best.
Say what you want, but he has the K/D, kills, and wins to show for it and he's never done anything but tank.
There's a list of good tankers and people who just tank. duna2002 at least stays on the front until he gets blown up. He doesn't run his modules then retreat for 2 minutes then comes back picking 1-2 easy kills. His crew destroys pubs worse than Nyain San ever could. In fact, I've seen his 4 guys destroy NS's A-Team many times. They never stood a chance.
And the fact that he doesn't PC as a corp doesn't matter.
His skill is numbers, it's his 5 other tank boyfriends who prevent you from ever reaching him. You're right. He's a sleezeball, but he has the numbers to show for it. Faulting him for using teamwork in a team-based game is void argument. Milkman1 & CUBS are the same way, but they still got to the top and stayed there, 13ear, too. All a tank can do is destroy and kill, so he plays the gamemode that allows only just that; ambush. He only tanks, since he started. He's the highest posted 100% tanker, period. How he goes about it doesn't matter because he gets the results he wants. He's the best. Has been for a long time.
I don't really feel like that's the case. There is more to tanking than just killing people, even simply if at its basic level it is a variation on killing them, as you could argue for all other roles in game, tanks are designed to me more than just mobile turrets, if you play Ambush all the time sure you get the numbers, more power to him, but as far as that tells me all he is is and opportunist with 5 buddies who are better than a bunch of random blue dots.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall.
For faith is your armour and through it, the enemy will find no breach"
-Askura 10:3
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
3868
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Posted - 2014.01.13 02:28:00 -
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Slim Winning wrote:You're right. He's a sleezeball, but he has the numbers to show for it. Faulting him for using teamwork in a team-based game is void argument. Milkman1 & CUBS are the same way, but they still got to the top and stayed there, 13ear, too. Which is why ReGnYuM and Alldin Kan are the best. But, I digress.
Carry on. |
Righteous Rage
BIG BAD W0LVES
46
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Posted - 2014.01.13 02:34:00 -
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The blazzed
"Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam."
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1457
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Posted - 2014.01.13 02:36:00 -
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i would say
Aldiin Kan. but i don't think he really does it anymore. i dunno he does everything so i dunno if tht counts. XD
honestly it really depends of what u mean by best.
and for the scrub who thinks duna is good. he's trash. i killed him 4-5 times in one ambush. should have been 5 but he bailed once. it's 4 officaly. anyone who judges tank drivers by KD is dumb. and yes he had his tank battalion with him.
if u did it by by KD i would be one of the worst cause i have a 3.6 - 3.7 ish KD. i guess i'm one of the worst tank drivers ever. :'(.
Main - BobThe843CakeMan
Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details.
Prices are based on who ur facing and how i feel.
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2014.01.13 02:48:00 -
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To determine best active tanker we're going to need a thunderdome with Char, Takashiro, and me. Best ALL time tanker is Slap but he stopped caring for this game.
Uprising 1.7 - TANKDOMINATION!!1!!1!
LOL Commando
LOL Plasma Cannon
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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
1824
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Posted - 2014.01.13 03:29:00 -
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I'll be the best cloak user.
Cause I'm a Ghost.
Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57
Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
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Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1615
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Posted - 2014.01.13 03:32:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Eurydice Itzhak wrote:As far as people that I've seen in game playing either in Pubs or Caldari FW since January 2013:
Speaker4thedead and, thats it.
Have not seen a single other "big name" tanker besides Luchasomething from STB in ambush with 12 STB guys.
I've seen Char in one match, as an infantry player.
PC Onry for the rest of the tankers it looks like. Lurchasaurus. This makes me wonder.....was nixnova a good tanker in his prime? Does he still have SP into tanking or did he put it all into that Proto Gallente Logi and Rail Rifle I saw him in a match with?
i saw nixnova today and he's pretty damn good. idk how his tank v tank is bc i snuck up on him for a kill, but he smashes infantry a lot faster than most people do.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1615
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Posted - 2014.01.13 03:33:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:I'm not a tanker, so I can't speak from direct experience, but I have played with four tankers that stand above the rest. Char, Earl James, Medaman, and Hellcomeswithme. Char I respect and is an all around good tanker I have never seen Earl at list I don't think so, Medaman is B*tch in 1.6 he killed my tank with OP wykiromi swarms as I was pulling out of a hot zone and had burned though my rep, Medaman later pulled out hs tank just f***ing fight me tank to tank don't use the OP tactic he wound up losing his Scat ion fit and I recognize Hellcomeswithme probably from killing him.
medaman is the best tank is ML and he did give me a good fight, but his understanding of close range tank duels is average. still better than most tankers, though.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
263
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Posted - 2014.01.13 03:34:00 -
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Every arse who uses the overview map to sneak up on enemy tanks... which i think is the most bullsheet thing for ccp to let them do, no need for scouts or team work with god eyes. Almost as bad as insta ejecting from tanks right before they die. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1615
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Posted - 2014.01.13 03:37:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:To determine best active tanker we're going to need a thunderdome with Char, Takashiro, and me. Best ALL time tanker is Slap but he stopped caring for this game.
:D
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1615
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Posted - 2014.01.13 03:39:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:Every arse who uses the overview map to sneak up on enemy tanks... which i think is the most bullsheet thing for ccp to let them do, no need for scouts or team work with god eyes. Almost as bad as insta ejecting from tanks right before they die.
wait a minute...you do realize that to do that, a tanker has to check the map and leave himself immobile, or have a friend of his not fighting. it's a perfectly fair tactic and i use it all the time- even in PC. people think im this amazing god mode tanker...well, some people, but really, i just refuse to engage head on if i can help it. ill even sneak up on tanks from THEIR redline just for lulz.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1207
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Posted - 2014.01.13 20:58:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Eurydice Itzhak wrote:As far as people that I've seen in game playing either in Pubs or Caldari FW since January 2013:
Speaker4thedead and, thats it.
Have not seen a single other "big name" tanker besides Luchasomething from STB in ambush with 12 STB guys.
I've seen Char in one match, as an infantry player.
PC Onry for the rest of the tankers it looks like. Lurchasaurus. This makes me wonder.....was nixnova a good tanker in his prime? Does he still have SP into tanking or did he put it all into that Proto Gallente Logi and Rail Rifle I saw him in a match with? i saw nixnova today and he's pretty damn good. idk how his tank v tank is bc i snuck up on him for a kill, but he smashes infantry a lot faster than most people do. Ya I saw nixnova yesterday I came at him another tank to my left and he ran for the redline with sliver of health and then a scout detonated remotes on me and a rail tank from behind hit and nixnova charged up and killed me dealing 163 damage. The other time Igot in pretty close with a blaster I popped him and his double hardeners started running away and then nixnova IAFG'ed me in the back with very little shields left. I met Earl that match too he and a second rail kept cornering me in the redline and we kept exchanging shots and then I would retreat further into the redline and he behind a building I killed the one tank that went practically in the redline to kill me took the long way out and snuck up behind him as he was going to his protective building.
Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault
Forum warrior lvl 1
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1458
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:06:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:To determine best active tanker we're going to need a thunderdome with Char, Takashiro, and me. Best ALL time tanker is Slap but he stopped caring for this game. not even me.
tht's mean.
u didn't even put a lot of other really good tank drivers. O_o
o and u didn't put the most OP tanker. duna the new zitro. :p
Main - BobThe843CakeMan
Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details.
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
425
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:11:00 -
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Me.
Now read my sig, and STFU.
Nuff Said
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TunRa
NEW OMENS
361
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:12:00 -
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Tun Ra.
Thanks CCP Foxfour
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Jason Pearson
3875
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:22:00 -
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Writing to confirm Duna is trash unless he has 5 other tanks backing him up, and even then they manage to lose one or two.
You're going to need to specify what's required of the "best tanker"? For most of us we judge based on Tank v Tank, Infantry kills aren't that important. Don't get me wrong, going 60/0 in a Skirm is impressive, but if you're doing it in an ambush you get no respect. It'd be difficult, if you want to find the best tanker, we need to do a tournament.
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire \\ Bad Mathematician
You're a total git, Jason. - Kingbabar
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
3885
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:25:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Writing to confirm Duna is trash unless he has 5 other tanks backing him up, and even then they manage to lose one or two.
You're going to need to specify what's required of the "best tanker"? For most of us we judge based on Tank v Tank, Infantry kills aren't that important. Don't get me wrong, going 60/0 in a Skirm is impressive, but if you're doing it in an ambush you get no respect. It'd be difficult, if you want to find the best tanker, we need to do a tournament. I'd think you get at least a little respect of going 60-0 in an Ambush. There are only 50 clones in normal Ambush anyway >_>
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