DUST Search - What are precision enhancer suppose to do?

negative49er wrote:

Galvan Nized wrote:

A couple things you have to remember when using precision enhancers.

1) It starts with your precision scan rating. So 60Db for heavies, 50 for mediums, and 45 for light. The skill itself increases your scan precision by 2% per level. So at max you get to 54,45,40.5 respectively...all before mods.
2) It is heavily dependent on range. Base range is 10m for heavies and mediums alike. 16m for light frames. The skill increases 10% a level. So max for heavies and mediums is 15m, 24m for scouts (Gal is 36m) before mods.
3) Passive scanning is on all the time, if enemies are in your range and have worse Db rating they will stay on your minimap. They do not get "You have been scanned" message.

Do not doubt these mods...Imagine the tactical advantage you get from these.

They are most useful on scouts but that doesn't mean other suits gain nothing from their use. Remember that in conjunction with range amplifiers they are very strong. One could argue that an active scanner trumps passive scanning but there are advantages to both.

i try on my proto scout( minmatar) with all complex precision enhancer in it high slots and got no advantage it feel that i was placing nothing in those slot, therefore i don't know how u are able to make them work

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negative49er The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 484	Posted - 2014.01.12 03:28:00 - [1] - Quote I did a test which i use all my high slot( 3x minmatar assault high, 3x minmatar scout high) and there were no different to my tacnet, so either i using them for the wrong thing or they aren't doing nothing can anyone try a gk0 scout with precision enhancer in the high slot give their opinion about it Dedicated Shotgun Scout
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 170	Posted - 2014.01.12 03:31:00 - [2] - Quote Basically it means you can be able to scan things that are more dampened... So if you use complex Prescision enhancers you'd be able to see an assault suit that is using a basic dampener or something. Honestly I don't think it's useful at all. I use it mainly because that's the only thing I can fit sometimes GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 2465	Posted - 2014.01.12 03:33:00 - [3] - Quote enhance your precision "Imagine a world where hypothetical thoughts didn't exist" -Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Nova Knife Proficeiney 5 \o/
Mac Dac Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 421	Posted - 2014.01.12 03:33:00 - [4] - Quote negative49er wrote: I did a test which i use all my high slot( 3x minmatar assault high, 3x minmatar scout high) and there were no different to my tacnet, so either i using them for the wrong thing or they aren't doing nothing can anyone try a gk0 scout with precision enhancer in the high slot give their opinion about it They are suppose to make it easier to pick up low profile suits on your radar, ie shotgun scouts, but they really dont make that much difference. "We should take care not to make intellect our god; it has, of course, strong muscles, but no personality" Albert Einste
Lucrezia LeGrand 200	Posted - 2014.01.12 03:36:00 - [5] - Quote so they're not worth having? T-T I don't know what else to put on there. ya- hoi hoi
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 79	Posted - 2014.01.12 03:39:00 - [6] - Quote their useful with range mods imagine the s#!t you can kill from a throne.... fu@#!n Rome.
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 45	Posted - 2014.01.12 03:43:00 - [7] - Quote They are basically useless. I had some on my Logi so I could see friendly health bars from a little further out, but now with the bars appearing whenever I pull out my Rep Tool I don't use them. Assaults don't use profile dampeners and scouts are trying to hide from Active Scanners so a few Precision enhancers won't help at all. Some one tried telling me they work to buff your Active Scanners. But they told me the same for the range enhancers and I haven't noticed anything, though I can do more experiments.
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 79	Posted - 2014.01.12 03:45:00 - [8] - Quote Denn Maell wrote: They are basically useless. I had some on my Logi so I could see friendly health bars from a little further out, but now with the bars appearing whenever I pull out my Rep Tool I don't use them. Assaults don't use profile dampeners and scouts are trying to hide from Active Scanners so a few Precision enhancers won't help at all. Some one tried telling me they work to buff your Active Scanners. But they told me the same for the range enhancers and I haven't noticed anything, though I can do more experiments. your wrong a smart assault would use 1 complex to get below 35db (vehicle scanners) imagine the s#!t you can kill from a throne.... fu@#!n Rome.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 339	Posted - 2014.01.12 03:57:00 - [9] - Quote This is what I have been saying about some of the mods performance activity being sometimes unnoticeable . I just skilled into the core for the bonuses that I thought sounded attractive and would suppose to enhance my overall effectiveness but while using the mods myself sometimes , I too notice no difference but the fact that I have lost some offense or defense . Some have talked about a adjustment that was made to the passive scanners on our person to make up for the use of active scanners , that too is a problem and could have been handled in a different manner . Don't understand how true that is but I have most of my core maxed and the ONLY difference that I CAN notice is the stamina and the speed . Those two off the bat , I could tell a difference in and pleased me . I have seen dampened suits , they show no signature but placing them on one's person , that person can not really tell if they can been seen or not unless they have a second person vouch with a mic . I believe that some type of adjustment is needed so one can tell the effectiveness of their being . The concept is fine but the results are questionable . Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
Happy Violentime L0ST PR0FITS 173	Posted - 2014.01.12 03:58:00 - [10] - Quote They enhance your passive suit scan

Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 518	Posted - 2014.01.12 04:20:00 - [11] - Quote A couple things you have to remember when using precision enhancers. 1) It starts with your precision scan rating. So 60Db for heavies, 50 for mediums, and 45 for light. The skill itself increases your scan precision by 2% per level. So at max you get to 54,45,40.5 respectively...all before mods. 2) It is heavily dependent on range. Base range is 10m for heavies and mediums alike. 16m for light frames. The skill increases 10% a level. So max for heavies and mediums is 15m, 24m for scouts (Gal is 36m) before mods. 3) Passive scanning is on all the time, if enemies are in your range and have worse Db rating they will stay on your minimap. They do not get "You have been scanned" message. Do not doubt these mods...Imagine the tactical advantage you get from these. They are most useful on scouts but that doesn't mean other suits gain nothing from their use. Remember that in conjunction with range amplifiers they are very strong. One could argue that an active scanner trumps passive scanning but there are advantages to both.
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 80	Posted - 2014.01.12 04:23:00 - [12] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: A couple things you have to remember when using precision enhancers. 1) It starts with your precision scan rating. So 60Db for heavies, 50 for mediums, and 45 for light. The skill itself increases your scan precision by 2% per level. So at max you get to 54,45,40.5 respectively...all before mods. 2) It is heavily dependent on range. Base range is 10m for heavies and mediums alike. 16m for light frames. The skill increases 10% a level. So max for heavies and mediums is 15m, 24m for scouts (Gal is 36m) before mods. 3) Passive scanning is on all the time, if enemies are in your range and have worse Db rating they will stay on your minimap. They do not get "You have been scanned" message. Do not doubt these mods...Imagine the tactical advantage you get from these. They are most useful on scouts but that doesn't mean other suits gain nothing from their use. Remember that in conjunction with range amplifiers they are very strong. One could argue that an active scanner trumps passive scanning but there are advantages to both. ^ this imagine the s#!t you can kill from a throne.... fu@#!n Rome.
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc League of Infamy 669	Posted - 2014.01.12 04:28:00 - [13] - Quote It lowers your passive (doesn't help scanners) [precision rating, so it's easier to scan things. You don't have the range however to actually pick up anything (on the assault it's 10m, and on the scout it's 16m). That's like a 2-3 second run. Once it's further out with the reange amps, you'll be seeing more things. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
negative49er The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 485	Posted - 2014.01.12 12:41:00 - [14] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: A couple things you have to remember when using precision enhancers. 1) It starts with your precision scan rating. So 60Db for heavies, 50 for mediums, and 45 for light. The skill itself increases your scan precision by 2% per level. So at max you get to 54,45,40.5 respectively...all before mods. 2) It is heavily dependent on range. Base range is 10m for heavies and mediums alike. 16m for light frames. The skill increases 10% a level. So max for heavies and mediums is 15m, 24m for scouts (Gal is 36m) before mods. 3) Passive scanning is on all the time, if enemies are in your range and have worse Db rating they will stay on your minimap. They do not get "You have been scanned" message. Do not doubt these mods...Imagine the tactical advantage you get from these. They are most useful on scouts but that doesn't mean other suits gain nothing from their use. Remember that in conjunction with range amplifiers they are very strong. One could argue that an active scanner trumps passive scanning but there are advantages to both. i try on my proto scout( minmatar) with all complex precision enhancer in it high slots and got no advantage it feel that i was placing nothing in those slot, therefore i don't know how u are able to make them work Dedicated Shotgun Scout
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 381	Posted - 2014.01.12 12:56:00 - [15] - Quote negative49er wrote: i try on my proto scout( minmatar) with all complex precision enhancer in it high slots and got no advantage it feel that i was placing nothing in those slot, therefore i don't know how u are able to make them work You need both enough scan range as well as enough scan precision for passive scanning to be of any use. One doesn't work without the other.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 883	Posted - 2014.01.12 13:23:00 - [16] - Quote Basically they are pretty much for scouts only As a scout, occasionally you will run into the "dampened medium frame" using a complex dampener, it's usually not that big a deal. But, even rarer, you'll run into half a squad or so med frames using comp damps, all running as a tight group and can be a problem. With a med frame, max skill and a complex dampener, you can get your profile down to 34 dB. As a scout, to counter this, equipping a single comp precision enhancer will solve your problem, should you run into the above described senario. This will bring your scan precision down to 32 dB with max skills, thus defeating these med frame's profile of 34 dB. This is really only good for scouts to defeat med frames on radar. As med frame Vs med frame or scout Vs scout would require the use of two precision enhancers in order to defeat said profile, thus, the sacrifice (two high slot) Vs the enemy' sacrifice (one low slot) is hardly worth the effort. It is more advantageous to simply keep your head on a swivel, in such situations. {edit>>> forgot about range: really only scout have the inharent scan range necessary to make good use to the precision modules {:)}{3GÇó> Please help me save the Gal scout!: linky
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 521	Posted - 2014.01.13 09:42:00 - [17] - Quote negative49er wrote: Galvan Nized wrote: A couple things you have to remember when using precision enhancers. 1) It starts with your precision scan rating. So 60Db for heavies, 50 for mediums, and 45 for light. The skill itself increases your scan precision by 2% per level. So at max you get to 54,45,40.5 respectively...all before mods. 2) It is heavily dependent on range. Base range is 10m for heavies and mediums alike. 16m for light frames. The skill increases 10% a level. So max for heavies and mediums is 15m, 24m for scouts (Gal is 36m) before mods. 3) Passive scanning is on all the time, if enemies are in your range and have worse Db rating they will stay on your minimap. They do not get "You have been scanned" message. Do not doubt these mods...Imagine the tactical advantage you get from these. They are most useful on scouts but that doesn't mean other suits gain nothing from their use. Remember that in conjunction with range amplifiers they are very strong. One could argue that an active scanner trumps passive scanning but there are advantages to both. i try on my proto scout( minmatar) with all complex precision enhancer in it high slots and got no advantage it feel that i was placing nothing in those slot, therefore i don't know how u are able to make them work Necroing the thread a little bit but I'll answer the question. Your Minnie scout had no range. Without mods he only reached 24m if he had Max range skills, the first circle on the minimap is 20m. If you were using anything with longer range than 24m you most likely weren't realising its full benefit. It is extremely useful for closer range weapons like NKs/shotguns, for defending objectives, or in an area with lots of cover. It is most easily fit on scouts but scouts aren't the only ones who benefit. A passive scanning logi can scan at like 25 Db with like 40+m range. That can pick up a scout who is only trying to get below proto non-focused scanners. The way Active scanners work killed passive scanning for all but the scout: passive scans are not relayed to your squad, active scanners have further range. What really kills passive scans though is active scanner spin & scan overlap (you can easily keep areas perma scanned), removing the greatest advantages passive presented.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3989	Posted - 2014.01.13 09:45:00 - [18] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: their useful with range mods not really, anyone with and PD skills will avoid it, and good luck picking up even an ADV scout. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 709	Posted - 2014.01.13 09:57:00 - [19] - Quote Precision Enhancers are to disappoint your enemies when they kill you and pick them up in FW. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 521	Posted - 2014.01.13 10:20:00 - [20] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: their useful with range mods not really, anyone with and PD skills will avoid it, and good luck picking up even an ADV scout. Depends. A maxed out scout with a precision mod picks up anyone over 32.4 Db...that's better than a medium with max dampening and a complex dampener. Your going to see 90% of people, so few run multiple dampeners if any at all. Depends on the ADV scout, is he maxed skilled? Is he running dampener mods? A proper Minnie scout can pick them up if they are not running dampeners and can pick up all mediums unless they are running 2 complex dampeners. Not everyone is max skilled so you'll see most.



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