DUST Search - Everytime something new comes out people think they are getting a respec.

Tallen Ellecon wrote:

We have gotten a respec 3 times since Chromosome. The fist was Uprising 1.0 because they had completely redone the skill tree. The second was a couple of weeks later due to skill tree changes. The last one was when they redid the vehicle tree, and they only refunded vehicle SP.

So why do you think they would give us a respec on suits just because new suits are coming out? We didn't get respecs for the new rifles even though they were changed.

Yes there should have been all racial heavies and scout from the start, but there weren't and that was 7 months ago. People since then have had more than enough time since then to save up SP if they absolutely have to have something when it's released. The only reason why they've ever given out repecs is because they fundamentally change how skills are allocated on the tree, not by the contents on the tree. Changing suit bonuses doesn't warrant a total dropsuit tree refund.

I'm not saying I wouldn't like a complete dropsuit command tree rework and subsequent respec. I'm just saying don't get your hopes up or plan for one. If we get one we'll get one, but if you really want the new stuff it's best to start saving up now.

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Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1173	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:02:00 - [1] - Quote We have gotten a respec 3 times since Chromosome. The fist was Uprising 1.0 because they had completely redone the skill tree. The second was a couple of weeks later due to skill tree changes. The last one was when they redid the vehicle tree, and they only refunded vehicle SP. So why do you think they would give us a respec on suits just because new suits are coming out? We didn't get respecs for the new rifles even though they were changed. Yes there should have been all racial heavies and scout from the start, but there weren't and that was 7 months ago. People since then have had more than enough time since then to save up SP if they absolutely have to have something when it's released. The only reason why they've ever given out repecs is because they fundamentally change how skills are allocated on the tree, not by the contents on the tree. Changing suit bonuses doesn't warrant a total dropsuit tree refund. I'm not saying I wouldn't like a complete dropsuit command tree rework and subsequent respec. I'm just saying don't get your hopes up or plan for one. If we get one we'll get one, but if you really want the new stuff it's best to start saving up now. Tarn chose peace. Tallen chose war. Where is my Gallente sidearm? SoonGäó514
Onesimus Tarsus 771	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:06:00 - [2] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: We have gotten a respec 3 times since Chromosome. The fist was Uprising 1.0 because they had completely redone the skill tree. The second was a couple of weeks later due to skill tree changes. The last one was when they redid the vehicle tree, and they only refunded vehicle SP. So why do you think they would give us a respec on suits just because new suits are coming out? We didn't get respecs for the new rifles even though they were changed. Yes there should have been all racial heavies and scout from the start, but there weren't and that was 7 months ago. People since then have had more than enough time since then to save up SP if they absolutely have to have something when it's released. The only reason why they've ever given out repecs is because they fundamentally change how skills are allocated on the tree, not by the contents on the tree. Changing suit bonuses doesn't warrant a total dropsuit tree refund. I'm not saying I wouldn't like a complete dropsuit command tree rework and subsequent respec. I'm just saying don't get your hopes up or plan for one. If we get one we'll get one, but if you really want the new stuff it's best to start saving up now. I wouldn't even bother. Most people I've seen posting here get the vast majority of their kills/wins in MIL fits anyway. Just ask, you'll see. I got my hand around the pistol grip, and the safety's off.
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 161	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:07:00 - [3] - Quote I think they should because, like the tanks, the skills for the drop suits are being completely changed. Why shouldn't we get a respec? GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1173	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:07:00 - [4] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: I wouldn't even bother. Most people I've seen posting here get the vast majority of their kills/wins in MIL fits anyway. Just ask, you'll see. I know I do. Tarn chose peace. Tallen chose war. Where is my Gallente sidearm? SoonGäó514
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 810	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:08:00 - [5] - Quote Well seeing as they're also completely reworking existing dropsuit bonuses and probably a lot of the stats, I'd say at least a partial respec is in order - skills under the Dropsuit Command section only.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1173	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:11:00 - [6] - Quote Marad''er wrote: I think they should because, like the tanks, the skills for the drop suits are being completely changed. Why shouldn't we get a respec? I'm just basing this off of past history. They never repecced weapons despite the stat changes. Tarn chose peace. Tallen chose war. Where is my Gallente sidearm? SoonGäó514
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3212	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:15:00 - [7] - Quote I just want a respec for the Swarm Launcher. I wanted a light infantry weapon for destroying vehicles, I didn't want a useless hunk of junk, but CCP made it this way. I don't want CCP to respec everything, just the Swarm Launcher Skills. You wanna battle / Aztec's not afraid of you / I could care less about your reputation / Even though it maybe true.
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 163	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:15:00 - [8] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: Marad''er wrote: I think they should because, like the tanks, the skills for the drop suits are being completely changed. Why shouldn't we get a respec? I'm just basing this off of past history. They never repecced weapons despite the stat changes. Stat changes are different. Especially if they are weapons. We spec into skills for what they do. Like the suits skills. I personally skilled into the amarr assault for the laser cool down skill because I like using amarr weapons. Others specced into the min logi for the hacking bonus because they like being that kind of asset to their team. Now they are being changed. We should get a respec because the Skill themselves are being changed. CCP actually did a respec for light weapon rapid reload. Just that. Because they changed the skill multiplier on the skill. They did this about 4 months ago So we should get a respec because no matter how much planning we do, no one could have foreseen the changes to the skills GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1545	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:17:00 - [9] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: Marad''er wrote: I think they should because, like the tanks, the skills for the drop suits are being completely changed. Why shouldn't we get a respec? I'm just basing this off of past history. They never repecced weapons despite the stat changes. Weapons are minor compared to what is ahead.
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1179	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:19:00 - [10] - Quote Because they are supposed to be changing the entire infantry skill tree. Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault Forum warrior lvl 1

Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1174	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:25:00 - [11] - Quote I've wanted a dropsuit command tree revamp and tiericide for the longest time. Tarn chose peace. Tallen chose war. Where is my Gallente sidearm? SoonGäó514
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 134	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:29:00 - [12] - Quote because most people would like to skill into the most OP fit when it comes out hell we should have a respec every month. But i shall stay in the same suit since day one. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 517	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:31:00 - [13] - Quote The bonuses changing doesn't bother me it's the fact that they are releasing the overdue dropsuits. That to me warrants a respec no matter what.
Sirys Lyons Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 24	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:37:00 - [14] - Quote Because while Dust should be about making choices that define your path in the game, it doesn't make any since to force players to stick to a chosen path when the path itself can change and become something else entirely - very potentially a path that player wouldn't have picked in the first place. As it is, spending SP is a gamble. What you skill into might be a perfect fit now and in six months...or it might change somewhat drastically.
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1900	Posted - 2014.01.11 23:14:00 - [15] - Quote Yeah, this isn't about adding new content as it is about changing the entire infantry dropsuit skill tree. And stop saying RESPEC. What WILL happen is that they are giving us a REFUND of any skill points put into skills that were changed. Just as the tankers got their refund when their tanks were changed, us infantry will be getting a refund of our dropsuit command skills. The reasoning being that a skill we had previously skilled into for a certain bonus may not be avilable to us anymore...so they will let us skill into something else if we want. They did this when they changed the dropsuit skills the first time, so it will absolutely happen again. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 1898	Posted - 2014.01.11 23:26:00 - [16] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: Marad''er wrote: I think they should because, like the tanks, the skills for the drop suits are being completely changed. Why shouldn't we get a respec? I'm just basing this off of past history. They never repecced weapons despite the stat changes. Not just stats, entire roles are being changed. A respec is needed. get over it. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4726	Posted - 2014.01.11 23:27:00 - [17] - Quote No one is asking for respecs because new stuff comes out. If that is how you are interpreting this, than shame on you. People are asking for a respec because they are making major changes to the roles each suit will fill. People are asking for a respec because the remaining core dropsuit selection is coming out, which should have been in the game from the start. People are not asking for a respec simply because it's new content. When the pilot suit specialization comes out, no one is going to be asking for a respec. When fighter jets or MTACs come out, no one is going to ask for a respec. Again, people are asking for a respec because the stuff that's getting released soon is core content that should of been there from the start. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4726	Posted - 2014.01.11 23:29:00 - [18] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Yeah, this isn't about adding new content as it is about changing the entire infantry dropsuit skill tree. And stop saying RESPEC. What WILL happen is that they are giving us a REFUND of any skill points put into skills that were changed. Just as the tankers got their refund when their tanks were changed, us infantry will be getting a refund of our dropsuit command skills. The reasoning being that a skill we had previously skilled into for a certain bonus may not be avilable to us anymore...so they will let us skill into something else if we want. They did this when they changed the dropsuit skills the first time, so it will absolutely happen again. It can't just be the Dropsuit Command skill tree, however, because what you spec into with dropsuits directly impacts what you must spec into for the Dropsuit Upgrades skill tree. I can see this argument pushing one further to weaponry, but that's a hardest case to sell. Really, at the least, we absolutely need to have a Dropsuit Command and Dropsuit Upgrades respec (or refund if you want to call it that). ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Leonid Tybalt Dark Knightz Corp. 124	Posted - 2014.01.11 23:40:00 - [19] - Quote Getting a respec when devs give parts or the entire skilltree some kind or overhaul or change vital functions of certain pieces of equipment that changes the dynamic of the skills you bought is reasonable. However I don't think it's reasonable to expect a respec everytime completely new content is added to the game. Basically change something significantly that was there before (aside from nerfing/buffing of course, because that needs to be done for the sake or balance) then players should be given the opportunity to respec. ADDING new content however shouldn't be grounds for a respec.
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 705	Posted - 2014.01.11 23:59:00 - [20] - Quote I don't want a respec I just want CCP to give me enough information so I can actually plan for future updates so I'm not wasting precious SP "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"

Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1175	Posted - 2014.01.12 00:03:00 - [21] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: Marad''er wrote: I think they should because, like the tanks, the skills for the drop suits are being completely changed. Why shouldn't we get a respec? I'm just basing this off of past history. They never repecced weapons despite the stat changes. Not just stats, entire roles are being changed. A respec is needed. get over it. Did you even read the original post? Nothing is confirmed and I have no problem with respecs for drastic suit changes. Tarn chose peace. Tallen chose war. Where is my Gallente sidearm? SoonGäó514
Minmatar Citizen 3173120 Xpert Intervention 80	Posted - 2014.01.12 00:14:00 - [22] - Quote Who really gives a shitz? No amount of respecs will fix this broken azz game. These clowns don't give a fk about this game only money. No more benjamins for u. The kiddies NEED the respec so they will keeep being meat shields.
Marc Rime 218	Posted - 2014.01.12 00:15:00 - [23] - Quote TL;DR, but yeah, it's kinda funny ;).
Knex 902 Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.01.12 00:18:00 - [24] - Quote Because it the right thing to do, the first thing CCP should release was all the racial dropsuit for all roles its the basic of basic. You said that we should have enough SP saved from the past 7 months and you are right some of us do have enough SP for this moment, but what if theirs a player whose one month old that just got his first million SP and he decide to spend it all on heavy only to get screw when CCP decide to release all the racial heavies are we gonna punished this player too? If CCP decide not to give respec than we gonna see lots of people b!tching about it and this time they have every RIGHTS to it. Maybe not a full recpec but just a partial of it.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9910	Posted - 2014.01.12 00:24:00 - [25] - Quote Gallente Heavy (basic, commando, sentinel) Caldari Heavy (basic, commando, sentinel) Minmatar Heavy (basic, commando, sentinel) Amarr Light (basic, scout) Caldari Light (basic, scout) These are not new content. They are delayed content. There is a difference. Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
Leonid Tybalt Dark Knightz Corp. 126	Posted - 2014.01.12 00:30:00 - [26] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Gallente Heavy (basic, commando, sentinel) Caldari Heavy (basic, commando, sentinel) Minmatar Heavy (basic, commando, sentinel) Amarr Light (basic, scout) Caldari Light (basic, scout)These are not new content. They are delayed content. There is a difference. Based on what? How do you know ccp didn't intend to leave the racial categories of suits as they were to symbolize differences in each race' type of warfare? By your line of reasoning ALL new content would be considered "delayed content". -.-
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 791	Posted - 2014.01.12 01:09:00 - [27] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: The bonuses changing doesn't bother me it's the fact that they are releasing the overdue dropsuits. That to me warrants a respec no matter what. It's been 7 months.... at some point that isn't a valid point for a respec. I'm fine for reimbursing the Dropsuit skill tree so people can re choose their racial and class specializations. With new roles and complete rework of the dropsuit tree's. Not weapons/equipment though. I'm not gonna change my racial suit so it doesn't even fully concern me if that even happens. It would be funny to see everyone stuck with their SP that went Assault Logi in the 7 month Logi is king cycle.. shrugs Respecs and the expectation of them needs to stop, and for that the ball is in your court CCP.
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1906	Posted - 2014.01.12 01:35:00 - [28] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: (or refund if you want to call it that). CCP's words, not mine. They made it very clear that they wanted to create a difference between refunding skillpoints, and and a respec (full refund of all skill points) Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9913	Posted - 2014.01.12 01:42:00 - [29] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Gallente Heavy (basic, commando, sentinel) Caldari Heavy (basic, commando, sentinel) Minmatar Heavy (basic, commando, sentinel) Amarr Light (basic, scout) Caldari Light (basic, scout)These are not new content. They are delayed content. There is a difference. Based on what? How do you know ccp didn't intend to leave the racial categories of suits as they were to symbolize differences in each race' type of warfare? By your line of reasoning ALL new content would be considered "delayed content". -.- You really think the game that spawned from EVE would not have full racial representation...... wut? Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9913	Posted - 2014.01.12 01:44:00 - [30] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Galvan Nized wrote: The bonuses changing doesn't bother me it's the fact that they are releasing the overdue dropsuits. That to me warrants a respec no matter what. It's been 7 months.... at some point that isn't a valid point for a respec. I'm fine for reimbursing the Dropsuit skill tree so people can re choose their racial and class specializations. With new roles and complete rework of the dropsuit tree's. Not weapons/equipment though. I'm not gonna change my racial suit so it doesn't even fully concern me if that even happens. It would be funny to see everyone stuck with their SP that went Assault Logi in the 7 month Logi is king cycle.. shrugs Respecs and the expectation of them needs to stop, and for that the ball is in your court CCP. How can you say re choose their racial and class specialization, yet not refund weapons and equipment? Do you not understand how this game works? Let me know how that scout handles his HMG, or how that Sentinel makes such good use out of the repair tools and nanite injectors. I could go on, but smashing my face against a brick wall is only fun for a few days. Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict



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