well, an 80k isk sica should be soloed, yes, but my half million isk tank should be right about where it is bc i invested half my Sp in it.

So, to answer your question, a very expensive, very well planned tank piloted by a high SP and highly skilled and seasoned pilot should be nigh invincible.

A mlt tank piloted by a noob should get soloed every single time someone tries.

The quickest fix would be to nerf mlt tank fitting power AND buff AV so that AV can actually punch through tanks when their hardeners are off. It usually takes 3 shots from a swarm or forge, but a bad tanker is gone by the time the second shot lands, and a good tanker will only let one hit.

See, that's the issue. Militia tanks can give a good fight to someone who actually invested time and skill into their asset and worked to get to where they are now.

THAT is the problem with 1.7. Make Militia tanks inferior to STD ones like they used to be. The cost is fine, but they shouldn't be able to **** up someone who actually worked for their asset and put a lot of ISK into it.

You have to be careful with AV buffs or dropships will go right back to where they were. We're actually really close to a state of balance right now, of course there are issues left that need to be addressed, but overall, it's coming along nicely for a change.

Tanks should be able to be solo by AV that is above their lvl. MLT tanks should be solved by proto A/V, it should take 2 AV to destroy it, or 1 very persistent AV. That way, MLT tanks get a nerf, but the others don't.

If you're smart with AV, you can Solo Tankers (RE, Flux, Swarm) And for the love of god, all the people bring up the argument "An 80k soma killed my Proto Suit thats costs 240k" well, before 1.7, It was the opposite. 1 Proto Swarm could SOLO a 3 Million Isk tank quite easily, how fair is that?

Now the deal with double hardeners, redline railing, and speed of each tanks needs to be looked at or fixed. Honestly I believe tanks are in a solid place if those above issues are fixed, I think It would create a balanced playing field if used/countered wisely.

Should AV be able to Solo tanks? If you're smart and play tactically, then of course. Its not that the AV itself is to blame, its how people utilize it

The only legitimate complaint?

Not seeing the AV troops beyond 75m was not a legitimate complaint?

3 AV nades erasing 90% of the health of a tank in 2 seconds was not a legitimate complaint?

Swarms that could dispose of a tank from far outside of its optimal with a single magazine was not a legitimate complaint?

You ever wonder why some tankers are so adamant with defending their vehicles? It is because there are people like this guy and Atiim and others who refuse to admit that there were things that needed balancing.

You can't fight what you can't see. If you can't see how that was unbalanced, than no amount of logic will persuade you. If you want to delude yourself, go right ahead.

As for AV nades, I use them to great effect on my heavy alt. Sorry that you can no longer solo vehicles with them, but to claim they are ineffective is BS.

*slightly* imbalanced means you are only *slightly* ********. Yet another infantry scrub who needs to have his posts hidden.

Also, please pretend like there are not tankers out making threads or posts suggesting nerfs to tanks and buffs to AV, because they do exist. You just choose to not notice them because they fly in the face of your view.