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          jerrmy12 kahoalii 
          The Phoenix Federation
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        Posted - 2014.01.11 00:26:00 -
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          buff standerd swarm damage by 20-30 buff advanced swarm damage by 10-20. there, no longer useless lower tier swarms
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          Cody Sietz 
          Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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        Posted - 2014.01.11 00:47:00 -
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          Wow, that would do nothing to help.
 "I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire 
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii 
          The Phoenix Federation
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        Posted - 2014.01.11 00:51:00 -
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          Cody Sietz wrote:Wow, that would do nothing to help.   yes, it would, bring the tiers closer 900 something  1000 something  1300? maybe it should be 1000 1100 1300
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          Altina McAlterson 
          Pure Innocence. EoN.
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        Posted - 2014.01.11 00:54:00 -
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          Swarms do have the biggest difference between levels percentage-wise other than nova knives (pretty sure they're the only one) but with the range they have now it will take much more than that to make them effective.
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          Cody Sietz 
          Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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        Posted - 2014.01.11 00:55:00 -
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Wow, that would do nothing to help.  yes, it would, bring the tiers closer 900 something  1000 something  1300? maybe it should be 1000 1100 1300   Your still doing crap dmg with a close range AV weapon at Proto.
 "I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire 
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii 
          The Phoenix Federation
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        Posted - 2014.01.11 00:56:00 -
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          Altina McAlterson wrote:Swarms do have the biggest difference between levels percentage-wise other than nova knives (pretty sure they're the only one) but with the range they have now it will take much more than that to make them effective.   1200 1300 1400 for all swarms hitting not accounting resistances
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          Atiim 
          Living Like Larry Schwag
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        Posted - 2014.01.11 02:36:00 -
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          So this would do what exactly in terms of AV vs V?
  Considering how you absolutely need PRO AV to kill a tank, buffing the other AV tiers would do absolutely nothing.
 CoD -----> 
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Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone! 
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii 
          The Phoenix Federation
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        Posted - 2014.01.11 02:38:00 -
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          Atiim wrote:So this would do what exactly in terms of AV vs V?
  Considering how you absolutely need PRO AV to kill a tank, buffing the other AV tiers would do absolutely nothing.   This would Decrease the difference per tier so you dont need pro to do a thing It buffs pro a littlr
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          Atiim 
          Living Like Larry Schwag
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        Posted - 2014.01.11 02:40:00 -
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Swarms do have the biggest difference between levels percentage-wise other than nova knives (pretty sure they're the only one) but with the range they have now it will take much more than that to make them effective.  1200 1300 1400 for all swarms hitting not accounting resistances   Nope.
  [220 * 4 = 880] ~880HP of damage at MLT/STD tier
  [220 * 5 = 1100] ~1100HP of damage at ADV tier
  [220 * 6 = 1320] ~ 1320HP of damage at PRO tier.
  No Swarm Launcher deals 1400HP of damage. The PRO one barely deals 1300HP.
 CoD -----> 
<----- WoT 
Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone! 
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii 
          The Phoenix Federation
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        Posted - 2014.01.11 02:42:00 -
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          Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Swarms do have the biggest difference between levels percentage-wise other than nova knives (pretty sure they're the only one) but with the range they have now it will take much more than that to make them effective.  1200 1300 1400 for all swarms hitting not accounting resistances  Nope. [220 * 4 = 880] ~880HP of damage at MLT/STD tier [220 * 5 = 1100] ~1100HP of damage at ADV tier [220 * 6 = 1320] ~ 1320HP of damage at PRO tier. No Swarm Launcher deals 1400HP of damage. The PRO one barely deals 1300HP.   Those are my buff proposal s Edit:Ah, proposal, my buff proposal
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          Atiim 
          Living Like Larry Schwag
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        Posted - 2014.01.11 02:46:00 -
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Those are my buff proposal s Edit:Ah, proposal, my buff proposal
   Oh. But how would you accomplish these numbers? 
  By changing Swarms per tier, or Damage Per Missile?
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii 
          The Phoenix Federation
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        Posted - 2014.01.11 02:48:00 -
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          Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Those are my buff proposal s Edit:Ah, proposal, my buff proposal
  Oh. But how would you accomplish these numbers?  By changing Swarms per tier, or Damage Per Missile?   Damage per missile, I dont know the math atm
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          Atiim 
          Living Like Larry Schwag
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        Posted - 2014.01.11 02:50:00 -
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Atiim wrote:So this would do what exactly in terms of AV vs V?
  Considering how you absolutely need PRO AV to kill a tank, buffing the other AV tiers would do absolutely nothing.  This would Decrease the difference per tier so you dont need pro to do a thing It buffs pro a little Underlined important part   Well, this would be a step in the right direction then if you are trying to increase the efficiency/cost layout of Swarm Launchers, but the Weapon price isn't really everything.
  The main reason why AV is so expensive is because of the fact that we need to pay the big bucks to run the nice toys such as Damage Mods, Profile Dampeners, Cardiac Regs, A Good Sidearm, etc.
  But it is a start.
 CoD -----> 
<----- WoT 
Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone! 
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii 
          The Phoenix Federation
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        Posted - 2014.01.11 02:53:00 -
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          Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Atiim wrote:So this would do what exactly in terms of AV vs V?
  Considering how you absolutely need PRO AV to kill a tank, buffing the other AV tiers would do absolutely nothing.  This would Decrease the difference per tier so you dont need pro to do a thing It buffs pro a little Underlined important part  Well, this would be a step in the right direction then if you are trying to increase the efficiency/cost layout of Swarm Launchers, but the Weapon price isn't really everything. The main reason why AV is so expensive is because of the fact that we need to pay the big bucks to run the nice toys such as Damage Mods, Profile Dampeners, Cardiac Regs, A Good Sidearm, etc. But it is a start.   20 or 30k for a pro swarm and you only need an adv sidearm not a pro one, but yea  1200 1300 1400 Is more balanced, 10% per tier
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          Atiim 
          Living Like Larry Schwag
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        Posted - 2014.01.11 02:56:00 -
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Damage per missile, I dont know the math atm
   Here is the Math:
  STD/MLT Swarms would deal 300HP per missile.
  [300 * 4 = 1200]
  ADV Swarm Launchers would have to deal 260HP per missile
  [260 * 5 = 1300]
  PRO Swarm Launchers would deal 233.33HP (Just round) per missile.
  [233 * 6 = 1398]
  2HP won't make a difference. Trust me.
 CoD -----> 
<----- WoT 
Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone! 
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii 
          The Phoenix Federation
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        Posted - 2014.01.11 02:58:00 -
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          Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Damage per missile, I dont know the math atm
  Here is the Math: STD/MLT Swarms would deal 300HP per missile. [300 * 4 = 1200] ADV Swarm Launchers would have to deal 260HP per missile [260 * 5 = 1300] PRO Swarm Launchers would deal 233.33HP (Just round) per missile. [233 * 6 = 1398] 2HP won't make a difference. Trust me.   Well pro only neeced a slight buff, the others though...
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