DUST Search - I'd pay 5 bucks for 1 million Skill Points

Ripley Riley wrote:

Clone D wrote:

Thanks for spamming this thread with juvenile dribble.

Your troll thread was losing momentum at around 7 pages. We've managed to push it out to almost 9! You should be thrilled.

@Maken
On a serious note, have you ever considered the idea of allowing new players the ability to purchase Recruit boosters?

Recruit boosters cost as much AUR as a passive booster, but provide a +100% passive SP boost instead of +50%.
They last 30 days. Recruit boosters do not come in varieties shorter than 30 days.
Cannot be stored, unlike typical boosters; they are used immediately after you purchase them. This will prevent people from making alts just to buy omegas and transfer them to their mains.
They are only available for the first 30 days of a new player's career.

Pros:
New players will get a slow injection of SP spread out over several months
Separates fools from their mon-I MEAN, provides an option for grown-ups with too many grown-up things to do

Can you think of any cons?


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Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6394	Posted - 2014.01.12 17:34:00 - [1] - Quote No. I don't care if you have to work in real life to bring food to the table and don't have time to grind. There will be absolutely no way CCP would ever allow you to purchase SP with cash or aurum outside of using boosters. Ever. That is definitely pay to win and that's a stigma DUST is trying to avoid. Cash for ISK however is an entirely different matter. The plex system in Eve Online is a balanced system since ISK is transferred from one player to another in the process. This avoid generating ISK out of thin air outside of mission running and encourages further trade. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6468	Posted - 2014.01.16 16:40:00 - [2] - Quote Clone D wrote: Okay, understanding the majority's position, what if it were capped to only 3 million purchased SP per character: $5 = 1 million SP $10 = 2 million SP $15 = 3 million SP That would prevent the game from becoming too unbalanced and would give beginners a way to select a variety of skills and develop their character a little faster. Just a little nudge to character development. It seems like a happy medium to me. I don't think you get it. This won't happen. Period. It's still too pay to win anyways since you can train up a whole suit with 3 million SP in an instant. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6472	Posted - 2014.01.17 07:40:00 - [3] - Quote Clone D wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: It's still too pay to win anyways Yes, that is a common theme in this thread. It is my goal to enrich this thinking with a fact. Players either pay with money or with time. Some people are richer in time than other people so they can afford proto gear. Some people like me would rather spend money than months and years of time on a game. So one way or another, players pay. Regardless of how you pay, it is pay to win. Quit trying to pass on your twisted definition of what is considered pay to win to try to justify implementing an mechanic that has so much negative stigma on it that it almost gives me cancer. You and I fully know that pay to win in the context of games only involves real world cash. And if you're so desperate to gain so much SP using cash as a crutch, why don't you play other games that have it already rather than bring dust down to such pitiful levels? OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6472	Posted - 2014.01.17 07:43:00 - [4] - Quote Seriously, I don't care what you say on the matter. Pay to win is not the way to go. Either grind for what you want, buy boosters or get out. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6478	Posted - 2014.01.17 16:13:00 - [5] - Quote @Clone D I can tell you're just a needy little brat for someone who is a grown up and you just want pay-to-win just for the sake of pay-to-win. And once again, don't bring up your twisted definition of what's considered pay-to-win for reasons that I already pointed out in the previous page. You just want to justify taking major shortcuts and undermine the efforts of everyone else around you because they have more SP, you don't, and you're jealous that we are ahead of you. For someone who is a grown up, you seem to lack the ability (let alone the intellect) to understand. After further reading, I have come to the conclusion that you have already made up your mind on the matter and you just want to make every effort to instill your twisted vision upon this game that doesn't want anything to do with it. One more thing, if you wanted to know what everyone thought about your idea you could have at least done a forum search. We have that feature, you know. There have been countless threads on it and on each and every one of them the debate has always ended with people that are mostly (and vehemently) against it. See for yourself. http://dustsearch.com/ OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6478	Posted - 2014.01.17 17:03:00 - [6] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: One more thing, if you wanted to know what everyone thought about your idea you could have at least done a forum search. We have that feature, you know. There have been countless threads on it and on each and every one of them the debate has always ended with people that are mostly (and vehemently) against it. See for yourself. http://dustsearch.com/ He can't be troubled with forums searches, he is a busy grown up. Can he pay some money to have you do it for him? That will be $1,000 in cash. No checks, money orders, and not even PayPal. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6478	Posted - 2014.01.17 17:40:00 - [7] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Clone D wrote: Thanks for spamming this thread with juvenile dribble. Your troll thread was losing momentum at around 7 pages. We've managed to push it out to almost 9! You should be thrilled. @Maken On a serious note, have you ever considered the idea of allowing new players the ability to purchase Recruit boosters? Recruit boosters cost as much AUR as a passive booster, but provide a +100% passive SP boost instead of +50%. They last 30 days. Recruit boosters do not come in varieties shorter than 30 days. Cannot be stored, unlike typical boosters; they are used immediately after you purchase them. This will prevent people from making alts just to buy omegas and transfer them to their mains. They are only available for the first 30 days of a new player's career. Pros: New players will get a slow injection of SP spread out over several months Separates fools from their mon-I MEAN, provides an option for grown-ups with too many grown-up things to do Can you think of any cons? I'm gonna be neutral on that. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6478	Posted - 2014.01.17 17:41:00 - [8] - Quote Clone D wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: One more thing, if you wanted to know what everyone thought about your idea you could have at least done a forum search. We have that feature, you know. There have been countless threads on it and on each and every one of them the debate has always ended with people that are mostly (and vehemently) against it. See for yourself. http://dustsearch.com/ He can't be troubled with forums searches, he is a busy grown up. Can he pay some money to have you do it for him? That will be $1,000 in cash. No checks, money orders, and not even PayPal. Thanks for spamming this thread with juvenile drivel. It's an honor to spam a thread that is already about juvenile drivel anyways. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6480	Posted - 2014.01.17 19:39:00 - [9] - Quote Clone D wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: It's an honor to spam a thread that is already about juvenile drivel anyways. I am not easily susceptible to normative conformity, so I expressed an idea for discussion. People who discourage individual thinking are called fascists. There's a noticeable difference between a genuine disagreement and asinine remarks. Your flippant fear-based opposition reeks of mendacity. Enjoy your power trip. It will give you something to reflect back on when you arrive at the conclusion that you have no true friends or self respect. Wait, I'm a fascist? I never knew. Anyways, if you are not easily susceptible to normative conformity, then why are you conforming to the "we want pay-to-win" crowd? So you want to be different? Then go over to that group that is full of people who want to be different. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6480	Posted - 2014.01.17 19:40:00 - [10] - Quote Cyzad4 wrote: now where were we? That will be $50. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*

Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6492	Posted - 2014.01.18 21:17:00 - [11] - Quote Clone D wrote: Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: both the title and OP of the thread indicate "i want pay to win" thus pointing out that you dont belong in new eden and should not be taken seriously There is an old saying. Do not judge a book by its cover. You would do well to heed its wisdom. Welcome to New Eden. Here, pay-to-win is taken to the backyard and shot in the head with a blaster like Old Yeller. If you don't like it, the door is that way. No is stopping you from leaving. In fact, we just want you gone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5WxRC9jcxs&list=PLA19164DFA1080FBB&index=61 OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*