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IKBAHKRANE
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:47:00 -
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I wanted to know why are the games so lop sided. I played a few games of ambush today and the score was 78 to 0, another was 71 to 0. I'm wondering why are the scores for this game so lop sided. You mean to tell me that my team could only score 2 kills out of 80. Why does this happen so often in this game. |
Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence. EoN.
769
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:51:00 -
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Squads.
"STFU I'm awesome, all your points are invalid as I kill proto's all the time nubs." - Infinite Diversity IDIC
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IKBAHKRANE
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:58:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads. You shut the fck up. You happy you funally found a game you can play *****! |
IKBAHKRANE
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:59:00 -
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IKBAHKRANE wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads. You shut the fck up. You happy you finally found a game you can play *****!
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1025
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:59:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads.
Indeed. The problem is that matchmaking is pitting organized teams of six people who are sharing voice comms against people who are not playing in a coordinated fashion.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
97
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:00:00 -
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It's because this game has garbage matchmaking
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IKBAHKRANE
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:00:00 -
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IKBAHKRANE wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads. You shut the fck up. You happy you finally found a game you can play *****!
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Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence. EoN.
770
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:05:00 -
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IKBAHKRANE wrote:IKBAHKRANE wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads. You shut the fck up. You happy you finally found a game you can play *****! Do you need medical attention? I think you might have just had a stroke or something.
"STFU I'm awesome, all your points are invalid as I kill proto's all the time nubs." - Infinite Diversity IDIC
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Mithridates VI
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2624
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:07:00 -
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IKBAHKRANE wrote:IKBAHKRANE wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads. You shut the fck up. You happy you finally found a game you can play *****!
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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IKBAHKRANE
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:19:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:IKBAHKRANE wrote:IKBAHKRANE wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads. You shut the fck up. You happy you finally found a game you can play *****! Do you need medical attention? I think you might have just had a stroke or something. athat was funny. lol |
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LOADED'HORN
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:42:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads. Squad up, or lube up. Long time players use comms and are fully kitted out. Team work wins. Also tanks are nearly unstoppable, and the instant death from complex damage modded combat rifles has broke this game in yet another direction. You will die a lot, but use starter fits and blu prints to make isk , that's what ambush mode is for. I understand how you feel, there is very little balance . Newer players are totally ******. 1000 hit points on any suit does not matter. And nothing you try will stop the slaughter, except don't play ambush! /broken. My opinion is I HATE this time to kill now. It is 0 fun. FYI tankers , the forge gun is my fotm. You guys always kill me, but I get to mess with your head while you go 20 and 0 at least.
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Righteous Rage
BIG BAD W0LVES
34
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:51:00 -
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IKBAHKRANE wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads. You shut the fck up. You happy you funally found a game you can play *****!
That's his signature. He wasn't addressing you.
"Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam."
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Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence. EoN.
771
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:53:00 -
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Righteous Rage wrote:IKBAHKRANE wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads. You shut the fck up. You happy you funally found a game you can play *****! That's his signature. He wasn't addressing you. It was more the repeated blank posts that threw me off. And shouldn't there be a line or something?
"STFU I'm awesome, all your points are invalid as I kill proto's all the time nubs." - Infinite Diversity IDIC
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Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
2592
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:55:00 -
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IKBAHKRANE wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads. You shut the fck up. You happy you funally found a game you can play *****!
No, I am not CCP Logibro.
Not actually a Logi Bro anymore, more like a Big Bro.
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
8
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:56:00 -
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IKBAHKRANE wrote:I wanted to know why are the games so lop sided. I played a few games of ambush today and the score was 78 to 0, another was 71 to 0. I'm wondering why are the scores for this game so lop sided. You mean to tell me that my team could only score 2 kills out of 80. Why does this happen so often in this game.
There are several inherent issues ATM when doing pubs, a game such as you described was most likely the result of either bad luck or que syncing.
In the current state of the game there are several corps and players who run prototype equipment and regularly squad up. This means that not only do they have better gear then you, but that they also have far more experience in the game considering the number of hours needed to gain the skill points required to aquire this gear. It can be a painstaking lesson running against just 6 of these players fully equied with better gear and working together over voice coms.
Then you have que synced squads. Que syncing is when multiple squads all try to use the system to get into the same match. This is possible by setting your server and battle type to the same thing as the other squads and using voice coms to simultaneously que for a battle. Usually resulting in both squads entering the same battle on the same side. This results in what is known as a proto stomp, when your facing a team made up almost entirely of proto equipped players, communicating over voice coms. The end result, is as the name suggests, that you get stomped. This can occasionally also happen from just bad luck if two proto squads and up on the same side without syncing.
Then there are the tanks. Tanks are currently op in vs infantry combat. Anti vehicle weapons are hard pressed to defeat them, and the only real cure is a tank on your own side. However tanks can also squad up, even using proto gear n the tanks, usually making it difficult for anti vehicle infantry and allied tanks to combat, which can result in very lopsided games as tanks rack up 20+ kill counts. Put 5 squaded tanks in, and they can easily rack up kills then you can kill the remain ing 11 infantry players.
Also due to their experience these players often know the best places to fight r camp from, on top of buildings only reachable by drop ship and the like, and can often be hard to attack if they are in these locations.
My reccomendation is to simply avoid these matches if you can. You will gradually learn what corporations to avoid in public matches, but the following is a quick dirty guide to corps known to either proto stomp vehicle stomp or both. If you see 6 or more ofplayers from these corps I reccomend you leave battle till you are more comfortable with the game and experienced and feel like testing your mettle.
Nyanchan Nyansan Sver true blood Dark legion Phoenix federation Ancient exiles Molon labe Outer heaven Motinai japan Hell storm inc Venezuela corp Dark legion
This is only a partial list, there are others, however these are some of the more common ones you will encounter that I reccomendyou avoid. I will oonly go into a match against these corps if my own teams has some half decent corps, or my own squad I believe capable of at least giving a good show.
(For any of the above corps reading this, they are not listed in any particular order of threat level, I'm not saying any of the above corps are more or less guilty, or more or less powerful, merely that they are known threats for new berries and lesser equipped/experianced players and squads alike. I have a lot of respect for the majority of the corps listed and have enjoyed the occasional oddball squad with your members, it does not however change the fact that I would regularly avoid matches with a majority if these corps on the other team.) |
Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
164
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:59:00 -
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LMAO ahahaahaaaa |
Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1028
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:05:00 -
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LOADED'HORN wrote:Squad up, or lube up.
This is true, sadly, but not a good answer for new players. CCP needs to embrace a solo-players only mode, possibly over the entirety of pub matches, to encourage squad play to move to FacWar and PC.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:11:00 -
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If they fix the que syncing I would at least be grateful, then you have somewhat of a chance. My worst nightmares are those late night run ins with teams comprised entirely of nyan San and chan. |
Mithridates VI
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2629
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:13:00 -
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IKBAHKRANE wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads. You shut the fck up. You happy you funally found a game you can play *****!
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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LEHON Xeon
Pradox XVI Proficiency V.
25
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:38:00 -
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Squads and mics are the main answer in terms of organization of teams. Active scanners are also rather helpful (found that one out the hard way).
If Walking Is So Good For You, Then Why Does My Mailman Look Like Jabba The Hut?
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Bunny Demon
Scions of Athra
59
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:41:00 -
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IKBAHKRANE wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads. You shut the fck up. You happy you funally found a game you can play *****! Is this sarcasm or are you actually annoyed at this guy?
Amarr logi ftw :D
(Also...ScR is pretty good)
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IKBAHKRANE
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:09:00 -
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Righteous Rage wrote:IKBAHKRANE wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads. You shut the fck up. You happy you funally found a game you can play *****! That's his signature. He wasn't addressing you. I know now but, saying I need medical attention was funny. Thanks |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2549
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:11:00 -
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Many reasons can be the factors. The one evident is organized teams. The other involves a plethora of newberries who don't know what they're doing. Also, many seasoned players have left as well.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
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IKBAHKRANE
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:17:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:IKBAHKRANE wrote:I wanted to know why are the games so lop sided. I played a few games of ambush today and the score was 78 to 0, another was 71 to 0. I'm wondering why are the scores for this game so lop sided. You mean to tell me that my team could only score 2 kills out of 80. Why does this happen so often in this game. There are several inherent issues ATM when doing pubs, a game such as you described was most likely the result of either bad luck or que syncing. In the current state of the game there are several corps and players who run prototype equipment and regularly squad up. This means that not only do they have better gear then you, but that they also have far more experience in the game considering the number of hours needed to gain the skill points required to aquire this gear. It can be a painstaking lesson running against just 6 of these players fully equied with better gear and working together over voice coms. Then you have que synced squads. Que syncing is when multiple squads all try to use the system to get into the same match. This is possible by setting your server and battle type to the same thing as the other squads and using voice coms to simultaneously que for a battle. Usually resulting in both squads entering the same battle on the same side. This results in what is known as a proto stomp, when your facing a team made up almost entirely of proto equipped players, communicating over voice coms. The end result, is as the name suggests, that you get stomped. This can occasionally also happen from just bad luck if two proto squads and up on the same side without syncing. Then there are the tanks. Tanks are currently op in vs infantry combat. Anti vehicle weapons are hard pressed to defeat them, and the only real cure is a tank on your own side. However tanks can also squad up, even using proto gear n the tanks, usually making it difficult for anti vehicle infantry and allied tanks to combat, which can result in very lopsided games as tanks rack up 20+ kill counts. Put 5 squaded tanks in, and they can easily rack up kills then you can kill the remain ing 11 infantry players. Also due to their experience these players often know the best places to fight r camp from, on top of buildings only reachable by drop ship and the like, and can often be hard to attack if they are in these locations. My reccomendation is to simply avoid these matches if you can. You will gradually learn what corporations to avoid in public matches, but the following is a quick dirty guide to corps known to either proto stomp vehicle stomp or both. If you see 6 or more ofplayers from these corps I reccomend you leave battle till you are more comfortable with the game and experienced and feel like testing your mettle. Nyanchan Nyansan Sver true blood Dark legion Phoenix federation Ancient exiles Molon labe Outer heaven Motinai japan Hell storm inc Venezuela corp Dark legion This is only a partial list, there are others, however these are some of the more common ones you will encounter that I reccomendyou avoid. I will oonly go into a match against these corps if my own teams has some half decent corps, or my own squad I believe capable of at least giving a good show. (For any of the above corps reading this, they are not listed in any particular order of threat level, I'm not saying any of the above corps are more or less guilty, or more or less powerful, merely that they are known threats for new berries and lesser equipped/experianced players and squads alike. I have a lot of respect for the majority of the corps listed and have enjoyed the occasional oddball squad with your members, it does not however change the fact that I would regularly avoid matches with a majority if these corps on the other team.) I've seen a few of the corps you mentioned. That is so weak to me that the game doesn't allow new players to establish better ground before getting stomped to death. Thank you |
IKBAHKRANE
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:18:00 -
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Bunny Demon wrote:IKBAHKRANE wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads. You shut the fck up. You happy you funally found a game you can play *****! Is this sarcasm or are you actually annoyed at this guy? Annoyed. |
Mithridates VI
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2632
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:28:00 -
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IKBAHKRANE wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads. You shut the fck up. You happy you funally found a game you can play *****!
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence. EoN.
779
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:34:00 -
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IKBAHKRANE wrote:Bunny Demon wrote:IKBAHKRANE wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Squads. You shut the fck up. You happy you funally found a game you can play *****! Is this sarcasm or are you actually annoyed at this guy? Annoyed. What did I do to you other than answer your question?
Good Advice
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
259
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Posted - 2014.01.10 02:42:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:IKBAHKRANE wrote:I wanted to know why are the games so lop sided. I played a few games of ambush today and the score was 78 to 0, another was 71 to 0. I'm wondering why are the scores for this game so lop sided. You mean to tell me that my team could only score 2 kills out of 80. Why does this happen so often in this game. There are several inherent issues ATM when doing pubs, a game such as you described was most likely the result of either bad luck or que syncing. In the current state of the game there are several corps and players who run prototype equipment and regularly squad up. This means that not only do they have better gear then you, but that they also have far more experience in the game considering the number of hours needed to gain the skill points required to aquire this gear. It can be a painstaking lesson running against just 6 of these players fully equied with better gear and working together over voice coms. Then you have que synced squads. Que syncing is when multiple squads all try to use the system to get into the same match. This is possible by setting your server and battle type to the same thing as the other squads and using voice coms to simultaneously que for a battle. Usually resulting in both squads entering the same battle on the same side. This results in what is known as a proto stomp, when your facing a team made up almost entirely of proto equipped players, communicating over voice coms. The end result, is as the name suggests, that you get stomped. This can occasionally also happen from just bad luck if two proto squads and up on the same side without syncing. Then there are the tanks. Tanks are currently op in vs infantry combat. Anti vehicle weapons are hard pressed to defeat them, and the only real cure is a tank on your own side. However tanks can also squad up, even using proto gear n the tanks, usually making it difficult for anti vehicle infantry and allied tanks to combat, which can result in very lopsided games as tanks rack up 20+ kill counts. Put 5 squaded tanks in, and they can easily rack up kills then you can kill the remain ing 11 infantry players. Also due to their experience these players often know the best places to fight r camp from, on top of buildings only reachable by drop ship and the like, and can often be hard to attack if they are in these locations. My reccomendation is to simply avoid these matches if you can. You will gradually learn what corporations to avoid in public matches, but the following is a quick dirty guide to corps known to either proto stomp vehicle stomp or both. If you see 6 or more ofplayers from these corps I reccomend you leave battle till you are more comfortable with the game and experienced and feel like testing your mettle. Nyanchan Nyansan Sver true blood Dark legion Phoenix federation Ancient exiles Molon labe Outer heaven Motinai japan Hell storm inc Venezuela corp Dark legion This is only a partial list, there are others, however these are some of the more common ones you will encounter that I reccomendyou avoid. I will oonly go into a match against these corps if my own teams has some half decent corps, or my own squad I believe capable of at least giving a good show. (For any of the above corps reading this, they are not listed in any particular order of threat level, I'm not saying any of the above corps are more or less guilty, or more or less powerful, merely that they are known threats for new berries and lesser equipped/experianced players and squads alike. I have a lot of respect for the majority of the corps listed and have enjoyed the occasional oddball squad with your members, it does not however change the fact that I would regularly avoid matches with a majority if these corps on the other team.)
Nice, we made the list twice! Take that! I think the main balance issues for games like this is coordinated squads working together with good skills, both SP and play wise. I'm running the basic scout suit lately and I'm sure people think proto stomped when you are often just poorly matched team/squad wise. The best battles are when you have two good full squads, one on each side.
Please fix the mic bubble bug...
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
259
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Posted - 2014.01.10 02:45:00 -
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I will add that I strongly recommend new players stay away from Ambush, hell I hate this mode now with the balance issues and spawn mechanics. Try domination or skirmish. Domination is better for fighting but skirmish might be a good place so you can just avoid the points with the good players.
Please fix the mic bubble bug...
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2062
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Posted - 2014.01.10 02:53:00 -
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If you're solo, I recommend Skirmish. You can't win Domination without a coordinated effort. Ambush has garbage spawn mechanics and is currently dominated by vehicles. Maybe Faction Warfare, but at least turn on your Team chat and listen to what's going on - it's the only Public mode where Team comms are regularly utilized.
Beer before Liquor, never sicker.
Toothpaste before Orange Juice, you're dead.
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