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SILENTSAM 69
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Posted - 2014.01.10 10:57:00 -
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Against this idea? This was one of the best parts. 
The devil is in the details, as you said. From how it sounded to me you would only get a few shots off before it decloaked you. Was I getting the wrong impression?
I thought it was good to see the Scouts getting some help finally. Thought I might even try out the Scout class again.
CCP put some good balance in the cloak, and made it quite a new thing compared to most FPS cloaks. I like that standing still makes you completely invisible. It should, but I also like that the cross hair will always turn red.
I also love that moving will make you somewhat visible. I can't wait to see what effect they use. I also love that the active scanner will still find a cloaked person, and that they must still beat the scan, making this mainly for Scouts.
If it turns out the cloak was meant to last for a long time, and that shooting didn't effect it much, then I could see cause for concern, but I feel giving them a shot or two wouldn't be a big deal for a Scout.
I love the idea that I will now have to watch for the coak effect of a moving scout, and for my cross hair to go red with no one visible in front of me. |
SILENTSAM 69
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Posted - 2014.01.10 10:59:00 -
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I gues I just think it is too early to tell. Lets try it for a month or so and see if its broken. They will obviously fix it if it is. |
SILENTSAM 69
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Posted - 2014.01.14 03:12:00 -
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It is a lot of crying over nothing. Allow a kill or tow while cloaked. It sounds great that CCP will do this, and not make it the same boring old cloak that most shooters use.
Considering all the balancing factors it sounds great to give the cloaked person an couple of actions before decloaking. I especially like the idea of throwing down a grenade while invisible near a group.
Active scanners will find them, our cross hairs will still find them. and when they move they will be kinda visible. There is so much balancing the cloaking unit tat only the Scout will use it to the best of its ability, and they need something with how under powered they are.
I would love to see a bunch of people start using this, and I would love to see the tactics people use against it.
It also finally give a reason to use something beyond the basic scanner. That proto scanner will finally matter, |
SILENTSAM 69
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Posted - 2014.01.14 03:15:00 -
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People are just having kneee jerk reactions, and not really considering everything from an objective stand point. Too many people are either thinking of how it will help them, or how it will hurt them.
Well there is a lot more to think about than yourself. I can not wait to see how it affects entire battles. I love the idea of being able to use Scouts to infiltrate effectively.
Without some idea of the numbers, we are just blowing a lot of smoke. We need to know how long the cloak will work for, and how much time is taken off for actions. |
SILENTSAM 69
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Posted - 2014.01.14 03:21:00 -
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Also, correct me if I am wrong, but even if a scan does not pick up a cloaked Scout, you will still know the scan failed to find someone, and to be on the look out for your cross hair going red with no one seemingly there. You would also be on the look out for the shimmer, or whatever they use to show a moving cloaked character.
There are ways to deal with it. If you fear a cloaked player around a corner, make wide corners. Throw random grenades into a room you do not trust.
One thing I am not clear on, does shooting a cloaked player make them suddenly visible? If so, random spraying would be a great way to 'look around' for cloaked players.
The cloak sounds good, and everyone who is over concerned needs to calm down. This include the CPM members against it. Well, mainly them. |
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Posted - 2014.01.14 04:24:00 -
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Reading the more logical concerns, mainly from Nova Knife, I like how he wants someone to be able to be vulnerable to counter attack while being offensive.
Besides the fact that I do not find the cloak itself that invisible, shimmers are always quite noticeable, and cross hairs going red helps a lot, I would say that I do like the idea of being vulnerable.
Maybe something could be done to balance things. Maybe a persons shields have to be down while cloaked, and the moment their cloak comes off their shields start charging. Meaning firing on an invisible target will be much easier to kill, and the moment the person first comes out and starts firing, they would be at a disadvantage. This might encourage decloaking while hidden. |
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