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CrotchGrab 360
The Men In The Mirror
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:51:00 -
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take any online game
imagine somebody exploiting an invisibility glitch and hunting you down with a shotgun
now imagine the entire team doing it.
it really won't go down well.
Aim assist already holds your hands. The meta of being able to deal higher relative damage and having 3 times the relative HP of your opponent tilt the scales but cloaking sends them crashing down to the floor.
what next? invincibility? dropsuit hardeners? |
Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1390
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:55:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:take any online game
imagine somebody exploiting an invisibility glitch and hunting you down with a shotgun
now imagine the entire team doing it.
it really won't go down well.
Aim assist already holds your hands. The meta of being able to deal higher relative damage and having 3 times the relative HP of your opponent tilt the scales but cloaking sends them crashing down to the floor.
what next? invincibility? dropsuit hardeners?
Just think of me and my SCR + Invisibility ...hmmmmm
Yeah i think those cloaks are gonna be bad news
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
"Accuracy"
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
924
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:56:00 -
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Panic! Panic, panic, panic.
OMG!
PANIC !!!
RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
295
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:57:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:take any online game
imagine somebody exploiting an invisibility glitch and hunting you down with a shotgun
now imagine the entire team doing it.
it really won't go down well.
Aim assist already holds your hands. The meta of being able to deal higher relative damage and having 3 times the relative HP of your opponent tilt the scales but cloaking sends them crashing down to the floor.
what next? invincibility? dropsuit hardeners? The galogi stompers will still win so cloak gives newer players an advantage
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1390
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:58:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:take any online game
imagine somebody exploiting an invisibility glitch and hunting you down with a shotgun
now imagine the entire team doing it.
it really won't go down well.
Aim assist already holds your hands. The meta of being able to deal higher relative damage and having 3 times the relative HP of your opponent tilt the scales but cloaking sends them crashing down to the floor.
what next? invincibility? dropsuit hardeners? The galogi stompers will still win so cloak gives newer players an advantage
What about Galogi stompers with cloacks ?
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
"Accuracy"
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
7707
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:58:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:take any online game
imagine somebody exploiting an invisibility glitch and hunting you down with a shotgun
now imagine the entire team doing it.
it really won't go down well.
Aim assist already holds your hands. The meta of being able to deal higher relative damage and having 3 times the relative HP of your opponent tilt the scales but cloaking sends them crashing down to the floor.
what next? invincibility? dropsuit hardeners? The galogi stompers will still win so cloak gives newer players an advantage
Until you realise that the Gallogi can, in fact, use a cloak. Quite easily, given the fitting bonus to it and vast fitting resources.
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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CrotchGrab 360
The Men In The Mirror
1361
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:00:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:take any online game
imagine somebody exploiting an invisibility glitch and hunting you down with a shotgun
now imagine the entire team doing it.
it really won't go down well.
Aim assist already holds your hands. The meta of being able to deal higher relative damage and having 3 times the relative HP of your opponent tilt the scales but cloaking sends them crashing down to the floor.
what next? invincibility? dropsuit hardeners? Just think of me and my SCR + Invisibility ...hmmmmm Yeah i think those cloaks are gonna be bad news
I DON'T WANNA I DON'T WANNA
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
296
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:01:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:take any online game
imagine somebody exploiting an invisibility glitch and hunting you down with a shotgun
now imagine the entire team doing it.
it really won't go down well.
Aim assist already holds your hands. The meta of being able to deal higher relative damage and having 3 times the relative HP of your opponent tilt the scales but cloaking sends them crashing down to the floor.
what next? invincibility? dropsuit hardeners? The galogi stompers will still win so cloak gives newer players an advantage Until you realise that the Gallogi can, in fact, use a cloak. Quite easily, given the fitting bonus to it and vast fitting resources. Simple Reduce logi cpu and pg to not be slayers then I was saying the current stompers will still win cloak will be nice as it will let the other team hack the objectives and codebreakers be usable now
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
7707
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:03:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:take any online game
imagine somebody exploiting an invisibility glitch and hunting you down with a shotgun
now imagine the entire team doing it.
it really won't go down well.
Aim assist already holds your hands. The meta of being able to deal higher relative damage and having 3 times the relative HP of your opponent tilt the scales but cloaking sends them crashing down to the floor.
what next? invincibility? dropsuit hardeners? The galogi stompers will still win so cloak gives newer players an advantage Until you realise that the Gallogi can, in fact, use a cloak. Quite easily, given the fitting bonus to it and vast fitting resources. Simple Reduce logi cpu and pg to not be slayers then I was saying the current stompers will still win cloak will be nice as it will let the other team hack the objectives and codebreakers be usable now
Okay. So what makes you think new players will benefit from this rather than the vets who will have the SP to use these effectively, have a proper slayer fit, and who know the maps and how the cloaks work much better?
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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CrotchGrab 360
The Men In The Mirror
1361
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:03:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:take any online game
imagine somebody exploiting an invisibility glitch and hunting you down with a shotgun
now imagine the entire team doing it.
it really won't go down well.
Aim assist already holds your hands. The meta of being able to deal higher relative damage and having 3 times the relative HP of your opponent tilt the scales but cloaking sends them crashing down to the floor.
what next? invincibility? dropsuit hardeners? The galogi stompers will still win so cloak gives newer players an advantage Until you realise that the Gallogi can, in fact, use a cloak. Quite easily, given the fitting bonus to it and vast fitting resources. Simple Reduce logi cpu and pg to not be slayers then I was saying the current stompers will still win cloak will be nice as it will let the other team hack the objectives and codebreakers be usable now
reduce cpu and pg? after they already got nerfed?
I don't know if it was just the caldari logistics but nerf that any more and i won't be able to fit any equipment on without being paper thin!
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
296
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:05:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:take any online game
imagine somebody exploiting an invisibility glitch and hunting you down with a shotgun
now imagine the entire team doing it.
it really won't go down well.
Aim assist already holds your hands. The meta of being able to deal higher relative damage and having 3 times the relative HP of your opponent tilt the scales but cloaking sends them crashing down to the floor.
what next? invincibility? dropsuit hardeners? The galogi stompers will still win so cloak gives newer players an advantage Until you realise that the Gallogi can, in fact, use a cloak. Quite easily, given the fitting bonus to it and vast fitting resources. Simple Reduce logi cpu and pg to not be slayers then I was saying the current stompers will still win cloak will be nice as it will let the other team hack the objectives and codebreakers be usable now Okay. So what makes you think new players will benefit from this rather than the vets who will have the SP to use these effectively, have a proper slayer fit, and who know the maps and how the cloaks work much better? Because level 1 noobs still be undetected
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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sly Bandit
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
43
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:09:00 -
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-sigh- there will be a certain suit to use this in.. You probably won't be able to fire while cloaked and there will be a delay before you can fire after decloaking.. It will Be like EVE Probably where unless you running a ship with built in cloak it's not very good...
I'm going to sneak in your house and steal all of your soap.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1513
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:09:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:take any online game
imagine somebody exploiting an invisibility glitch and hunting you down with a shotgun
now imagine the entire team doing it.
it really won't go down well.
Aim assist already holds your hands. The meta of being able to deal higher relative damage and having 3 times the relative HP of your opponent tilt the scales but cloaking sends them crashing down to the floor.
what next? invincibility? dropsuit hardeners?
You know you won't be able to run around cloaked, guns blazing? That's different from an invisibility glitch. And yes: Dropsuit hardeners should be introduced.
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1391
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:10:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:take any online game
imagine somebody exploiting an invisibility glitch and hunting you down with a shotgun
now imagine the entire team doing it.
it really won't go down well.
Aim assist already holds your hands. The meta of being able to deal higher relative damage and having 3 times the relative HP of your opponent tilt the scales but cloaking sends them crashing down to the floor.
what next? invincibility? dropsuit hardeners? Just think of me and my SCR + Invisibility ...hmmmmm Yeah i think those cloaks are gonna be bad news I DON'T WANNA I DON'T WANNA
:) I think its going to be pretty painless actually
Hmm Vizian SCR + Gallente Assault(no reason anymore to go amarr no bonus) + Cloak
Thats gonna be a roughly 900 EHP cloaked suit with an Alpha Strike capable of leveling most people before the cloak shuts down.
Sounds a tad unbalanced, even for me.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
"Accuracy"
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1365
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:12:00 -
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Cloaks make you nearly invisible when not moving Effect flickers the more you move Using weapons depletes the cloak, larger guns deplete it faster Sniper Rifle completely depletes the cloak when fired, causing you to decloak Once cloak is dropped, the module must cool down.
It sounds like its working VERY similar to the way cloaks did in Killzone 3.
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Rentoku Gratzl
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:12:00 -
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Killzone had good, very playable online and that had cloaks available.
Is there any info on how the cloaks will work? Cant imagine being allowed to fire and stay cloaked |
Suanar Daranaus
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:14:00 -
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But if they implement it any thing like cloaks in EVE then you will Not be able to Sprint Cloaked unless you have Black Op's Cloak and they can only be used on special ships.
You can not Fire your weapons right after de-cloaking. There is a delay. But you can reduce that delay with special skills.
There is also a cool down timer after you have de-cloaked in order to re-cloak as well.
EDIT: And the Maps here are SMALL |
Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
779
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:15:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:take any online game
imagine somebody exploiting an invisibility glitch and hunting you down with a shotgun
now imagine the entire team doing it.
it really won't go down well.
Aim assist already holds your hands. The meta of being able to deal higher relative damage and having 3 times the relative HP of your opponent tilt the scales but cloaking sends them crashing down to the floor.
what next? invincibility? dropsuit hardeners? The galogi stompers will still win so cloak gives newer players an advantage Until you realise that the Gallogi can, in fact, use a cloak. Quite easily, given the fitting bonus to it and vast fitting resources. Simple Reduce logi cpu and pg to not be slayers then I was saying the current stompers will still win cloak will be nice as it will let the other team hack the objectives and codebreakers be usable now Okay. So what makes you think new players will benefit from this rather than the vets who will have the SP to use these effectively, have a proper slayer fit, and who know the maps and how the cloaks work much better?
If they only allow cloaks on scout dropsuits they won't be used by noobs, right? As far as I can remember you have to spec into scout suits. Will noobs know enough that they have to do this?
If they allow cloaks for everyone it's going to be the wild friggin' west and there'll be no sheriff in town.
Munch
Munch for CPM 1 Campaign Headquarters
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Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1523
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:16:00 -
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Well, I have a feeling it is going to cost so much PG and CPU that only a scout suit op 5 will allow fitting of it on a proto scout suit without having 200 HP.
Then again, if a proto sentinal with a basic HMG used it and had NOTHING else on his suit, it'd be terrifying.
But with scouts being scouts, youll still be able to spray in a general direction and kill something (like a scout suit)
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:17:00 -
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Sure, they might be SUPER effective, but who in their right mind would spec scout prof 5 and cloak prof 5 to use it? Beta vets- that's who. and a very small minority of them. Something that good should require huge sp investment (hint hint...tanks...militia god mode OP stupid ccp nerf them now)
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1365
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:17:00 -
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CCP Remnant wrote: - The cloak field is a piece of equipment. - When selected the cortex is raised and you press fire to activate it. - Once activated, it goes away and your weapon is raised. You can switch to other weapons/equipment while cloaked. - You cloak. The amount of "shimmer" is increased as you move so standing still you will be nigh invisible, but when moving you will be noticeable to an extent. When cloaked, you obviously have no chevron or health bars, but the enemy reticule will flash red if you run past it. - Cloak can be deactivated by selecting it and pressing fire. - Once deactivated or it runs out it will start to recharge. - Firing a weapon while cloaked will rapidly deplete the cloak field (a single shot from a sniper rifle, for instance, will decloak you) - You can only fit one cloak field at a time.
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1279
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:17:00 -
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I get the impression cloak use is like being a sentinel, its one of those specialist classes you are going to have to invest SP into.
They probably won't be as good as people think they are going to be.
"We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
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ugg reset
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
432
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:20:00 -
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Works in planet side.
Thr33 is the magic number.
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CrotchGrab 360
The Men In The Mirror
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:25:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:take any online game
imagine somebody exploiting an invisibility glitch and hunting you down with a shotgun
now imagine the entire team doing it.
it really won't go down well.
Aim assist already holds your hands. The meta of being able to deal higher relative damage and having 3 times the relative HP of your opponent tilt the scales but cloaking sends them crashing down to the floor.
what next? invincibility? dropsuit hardeners? Just think of me and my SCR + Invisibility ...hmmmmm Yeah i think those cloaks are gonna be bad news I DON'T WANNA I DON'T WANNA :) I think its going to be pretty painless actually Hmm Vizian SCR + Gallente Assault(no reason anymore to go amarr no bonus) + Cloak Thats gonna be a roughly 900 EHP cloaked suit with an Alpha Strike capable of leveling most people before the cloak shuts down. Sounds a tad unbalanced, even for me.
yeh as much as it pains me to im going to move my SCR alt out of an amarr suit, no passive armour regen, bonus being screwed up.
or maybe logistics suits because they'rebetter at doing what assaults do! but then if/whenthey get balanced ill be screwed again!
i want 1 logi account and 1 assault account but right now I see no point in using my assault suit alt! |
Kodho
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:34:00 -
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I have a bad feeling about cloaking. I can see every Tom, **** and Harry wanting to spec into scout suits in order to obtain it and fit it properly. So, now the battlefield will be riddled with cloaked mercs. This will lead to more redline snipers than ever before as people will be reluctant to enter the shared battlefield. I really wish CCP would look at the suggestions the scout community have been asking for in the Scout Registry Killboard post.
I do not think scouts will be fixed with this. In fact I believe it will place us further in the dark hole we currently find ourself.
Long Live the Scout!
Kodho
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
764
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:40:00 -
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Cloak is cool and has amazing potential.
Just............. Dust has so many things it needs right now before this...
Aiming controls and customization,
Aiming feeling right at all without a band-aid AA, Map glitches STILL,
Collision Mechanics overhaul... (we are still getting stuck on small hills really?), Stuck anywhere everywhere...
More Game modes,
Maps that make sense with multi level playability, ladders that go places, spots for snipers not in the red-line, tank fighting area's infantry fighting areas...
All the Racial weapons,
All racial vehicles,
PC overhaul,
Frame rate issues!!!!!!,
Equipment spam latency and lag issues,
Sound overhaul(footsteps, guns, vehicles positions, all of it is..... so important in gameplay and feel but we are stuck with very little emphasis on quality of this)
Massive overhaul on guiding the NPE
could make the list 3x longer if i wanted to get more depressed at the choices made to spend manhours on. while so many issues that have existed for 6 months to forever are still present.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation
677
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:41:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:take any online game
imagine somebody exploiting an invisibility glitch and hunting you down with a shotgun
now imagine the entire team doing it.
it really won't go down well.
Aim assist already holds your hands. The meta of being able to deal higher relative damage and having 3 times the relative HP of your opponent tilt the scales but cloaking sends them crashing down to the floor.
what next? invincibility? dropsuit hardeners? Just think of me and my SCR + Invisibility ...hmmmmm Yeah i think those cloaks are gonna be bad news They were, they then was removed and now we'll see what happens next...
Assassination is my thing.
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