DUST Search - How cloaking will work (post by CCP)

pagl1u M wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

I'm not liking how it seems the logis will be able to use this item effectively as well, and perhaps more effectively than the scout. I mean, 25% fitting reduction isn't too big of a difference from 50% fitting reduction if the Logi also gets more CPU/PG from extra slots. Really all a logi would have to do is leave one of the equipment slots empty and then they can still carry two more equipment and everything else as usual.

Perhaps the logi bonus should only be a fitting reduction to support equipment?

Read my Previous answer in this thread.
Also: what do you think logis will use this for?
1 attacking? Really? With the new assault, commando and sentinel tryng to kill him? I think it would be a Bad idea for a poor weak logi to appear in the Middle of a squad full of this monsters.
Running away from big bad guys?
Maybe. And I dont think this will be a game breacker cause you just let a poor little boy excaping the bad guys for a couple of second.
Also you wont be able to use this when you see they are killing you cause you will have to: equip it AND presso fire. You re already Dead.


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Aero Yassavi Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 4564	Posted - 2014.01.09 11:04:00 - [1] - Quote I'm not liking how it seems the logis will be able to use this item effectively as well, and perhaps more effectively than the scout. I mean, 25% fitting reduction isn't too big of a difference from 50% fitting reduction if the Logi also gets more CPU/PG from extra slots. Really all a logi would have to do is leave one of the equipment slots empty and then they can still carry two more equipment and everything else as usual. Perhaps the logi bonus should only be a fitting reduction to support equipment? It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Aero Yassavi Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 4564	Posted - 2014.01.09 11:12:00 - [2] - Quote Vulcanus Lightbringer wrote: Quote: Another thing I want to make absolutely certain of is whether or not a cloaked player can be revealed on scan. I assume they will, I know I've read somewhere that scanners are supposed to counter cloaks. You probably read that from the dev blog way back in march, http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/03/equipment-is-your-friend/ "The second item is a Cloaking Field. This sneaky bit of kit will not only make you (almost) invisible to other combatants, it will also blind turret AI targeting systems. It isnGÇÖt perfect invisibility, scanners will still pick you up if you havenGÇÖt masked your signal well enough, motion will disrupt the field to some extent and weapon fire will cause the field to shut down. This means it will take some skill to use to its maximum potential. This item is going to be a real game changer, particularly for Scout dropsuits which have been screaming out for stealth gear." Sure you could argue that all isn't true any more because they originally said weapon fire will cause the field to shut down, but they never said shut down instantly, so all of this is still true. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Aero Yassavi Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 4564	Posted - 2014.01.09 11:18:00 - [3] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: I'm not liking how it seems the logis will be able to use this item effectively as well, and perhaps more effectively than the scout. I mean, 25% fitting reduction isn't too big of a difference from 50% fitting reduction if the Logi also gets more CPU/PG from extra slots. Really all a logi would have to do is leave one of the equipment slots empty and then they can still carry two more equipment and everything else as usual. Perhaps the logi bonus should only be a fitting reduction to support equipment? Read my Previous answer in this thread. Also: what do you think logis will use this for? 1 attacking? Really? With the new assault, commando and sentinel tryng to kill him? I think it would be a Bad idea for a poor weak logi to appear in the Middle of a squad full of this monsters. Running away from big bad guys? Maybe. And I dont think this will be a game breacker cause you just let a poor little boy excaping the bad guys for a couple of second. Also you wont be able to use this when you see they are killing you cause you will have to: equip it AND presso fire. You re already Dead. If you're using the Minmatar or Gallente logi that has 4 equipment, then all you'd have to do to reasonably fit the cloaking device would be fit it on one of your slots (25% reduction) and leave another one of your equipment slots empty (which you can view as then giving it a 50% fitting reduction, as logis have extra CPU/PG because of the extra equipment slots). At that point, you still have two equipment slots to fill normally along with modules and your light weapon of choice. What would a logi use it for? Attacking, yes. Sure Assaults and Commandos would be stronger, but you'd be cloaked. Plus you'd be able to carry with you say remote explosives and nanohives for grenade spam, remote explosives and scanner to know where people are at, scanner and nanohives, lots of good combinations that could potentially make the logi better at infiltration and using the cloak then the scout. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Aero Yassavi Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 4565	Posted - 2014.01.09 11:43:00 - [4] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: and leave another one of your equipment slots empty . Hhhhhhhh! Are You crazy? Leave one of my Precious equip slot empty? Are You high or something? You're not getting my point. I'm saying if a logi wants to try and do the role of a scout. Even if a logi would leave one of it's equipments empty in order to essentially get the same fitting bonus as the scout, it would still have 2 more equipment slots than a scout. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!