DUST Search - Feedback/Suggestion: a logical proposal for suits and bonuses for CCP

knight guard fury wrote:

Fizzer94 wrote:

1.) Very few logis are please with the logistics racial bonuses because they are too specialised. You should try to make your post reflect that.

Suggestion:
Logistics Bonus: Same

Amarr Logi: +10% Armor Repair Module Efficacy per level
Caldari Logi: +10% Shield Recharger Module Efficacy per level
Gallente Logi: +2% Equipment Efficacy per level (+2% to all 'good' equipment stats, -2% to all the 'bad' stats)
Minmatar Logi: 10% Codebreaker Module Efficacy Per Level

2.) Those Assault and Assault Racial bonuses make no sense to be on an Assault suit. Those would be more fitting on a Commando suit, bit honestly, don't look like they fit very well on any suit.

Suggestion:
Assault Bonus: -5% Weapon PG/CPU costs per level

Amarr: the current heat buildup bonus is great, leave it.
Caldari: +2% Hybrid/Railgun Weapon RoF per level
Gallente: +1% Hybrid/Blaster Weapon Damage Per Level
Minmatar: +5% Projectile Weapon Magazine Size per level

3.)Why do you want to take away a slot from the Amarr Logi and give it to the Amarr Assault? As of right now(1.7) the Amarr Logi and Amarr Assault are well balanced with each other, and are the only Assault/Logi pair that is balanced... I see you did something similar with the Caldari pair, but to a more extreme level. Why?

4.) The Class bonuses can't be four different things, they should have the exact same affect on each racial suit.

5.) The proposed Amarr and Caldari Scout bonuses that can be seen on SiSi are fine. I have seen nobody complain about them, so why did you change them? Those cloaking bonuses sounded rad...

I really don't have anything to say about the Sentinel and Commando suits...

1.) ni didnt think about the logi thing like that so thanks for telling me

2.) ill reconsider the assault bonuses to something else

3.)im gonna have to check back on the slot layouts whenever i get back on dust, but i did that because of lore reasons and it doesnt seem right to make them have dual-like qualities

the caldari im going to reconsider changing if you and other people think it too wierd or OP but im just thinking lore-like

4.) ill change that then, but i dont like a universal role bonus becasue the eve role bonuses are never the same so how come ours are in the first place?

5.) me and many other scouts have been argueing and thinking of solutions to fix the current bonuses since we dont find them that useful so we decided on something like that

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Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1322	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:00:00 - [1] - Quote 1.) Very few logis are please with the logistics racial bonuses because they are too specialised. You should try to make your post reflect that. Suggestion: Logistics Bonus: Same Amarr Logi: +10% Armor Repair Module Efficacy per level Caldari Logi: +10% Shield Recharger Module Efficacy per level Gallente Logi: +2% Equipment Efficacy per level (+2% to all 'good' equipment stats, -2% to all the 'bad' stats) Minmatar Logi: 10% Codebreaker Module Efficacy Per Level 2.) Those Assault and Assault Racial bonuses make no sense to be on an Assault suit. Those would be more fitting on a Commando suit, bit honestly, don't look like they fit very well on any suit. Suggestion: Assault Bonus: -5% Weapon PG/CPU costs per level Amarr: the current heat buildup bonus is great, leave it. Caldari: +2% Hybrid/Railgun Weapon RoF per level Gallente: +1% Hybrid/Blaster Weapon Damage Per Level Minmatar: +5% Projectile Weapon Magazine Size per level 3.)Why do you want to take away a slot from the Amarr Logi and give it to the Amarr Assault? As of right now(1.7) the Amarr Logi and Amarr Assault are well balanced with each other, and are the only Assault/Logi pair that is balanced... I see you did something similar with the Caldari pair, but to a more extreme level. Why? 4.) The Class bonuses can't be four different things, they should have the exact same affect on each racial suit. 5.) The proposed Amarr and Caldari Scout bonuses that can be seen on SiSi are fine. I have seen nobody complain about them, so why did you change them? Those cloaking bonuses sounded rad... I really don't have anything to say about the Sentinel and Commando suits... "I'm done!" slams doorGÇª walks back in and sits down "I still enjoy the forums."
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1323	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:27:00 - [2] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: 1.) Very few logis are please with the logistics racial bonuses because they are too specialised. You should try to make your post reflect that. Suggestion: Logistics Bonus: Same Amarr Logi: +10% Armor Repair Module Efficacy per level Caldari Logi: +10% Shield Recharger Module Efficacy per level Gallente Logi: +2% Equipment Efficacy per level (+2% to all 'good' equipment stats, -2% to all the 'bad' stats) Minmatar Logi: 10% Codebreaker Module Efficacy Per Level 2.) Those Assault and Assault Racial bonuses make no sense to be on an Assault suit. Those would be more fitting on a Commando suit, bit honestly, don't look like they fit very well on any suit. Suggestion: Assault Bonus: -5% Weapon PG/CPU costs per level Amarr: the current heat buildup bonus is great, leave it. Caldari: +2% Hybrid/Railgun Weapon RoF per level Gallente: +1% Hybrid/Blaster Weapon Damage Per Level Minmatar: +5% Projectile Weapon Magazine Size per level 3.)Why do you want to take away a slot from the Amarr Logi and give it to the Amarr Assault? As of right now(1.7) the Amarr Logi and Amarr Assault are well balanced with each other, and are the only Assault/Logi pair that is balanced... I see you did something similar with the Caldari pair, but to a more extreme level. Why? 4.) The Class bonuses can't be four different things, they should have the exact same affect on each racial suit. 5.) The proposed Amarr and Caldari Scout bonuses that can be seen on SiSi are fine. I have seen nobody complain about them, so why did you change them? Those cloaking bonuses sounded rad... I really don't have anything to say about the Sentinel and Commando suits... 1.) ni didnt think about the logi thing like that so thanks for telling me 2.) ill reconsider the assault bonuses to something else 3.)im gonna have to check back on the slot layouts whenever i get back on dust, but i did that because of lore reasons and it doesnt seem right to make them have dual-like qualities the caldari im going to reconsider changing if you and other people think it too wierd or OP but im just thinking lore-like 4.) ill change that then, but i dont like a universal role bonus becasue the eve role bonuses are never the same so how come ours are in the first place? 5.) me and many other scouts have been argueing and thinking of solutions to fix the current bonuses since we dont find them that useful so we decided on something like that 3.)Heres a suggestion to make it more in line with what you were thinking. Amarr Logi Current: 3H 4L Proposed: 2H 5L Amarr Assault Current: 3H 3L Proposed: 2H 4L 4.) I understand that that is how it woks in EvE, but the current sestym seems to work fine. Why fix what isn't broken? 5.) I'll take your word for it. I'm no scout, so I'll let you decide. I just thought the cloaking bonuses looked pretty cool... "I'm done!" slams doorGÇª walks back in and sits down "I still enjoy the forums."
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1326	Posted - 2014.01.10 06:32:00 - [3] - Quote That looks great! Assaults would be good at assaulting, as their increased stamina would allow them more versatile movement across the field of battle so they can be the first combat ready units to a point so they could truly assault it, while their racial bonus would make certain weapons truly shine when they weild them. They would be something kind of like shock troops. Logis could equip better equipment do yo their bonus, and still have a useful racial bonus that doesn't tie them to an equipment type, but also doesn't allow them to kill more efficiently than assaults. They would have the ability to use equipment to keep their teammates going for the long run. The stamina bonus for assaults does fit their role quite well, too. It gets rid of a damage buff for assaults (thus increasing TTK), but allows them to get from point to point very well, which is something an assaults suit should be good at. I approve of this list, or at least the medium frame parts... CCP really should take a look at this. "I'm done!" slams doorGÇª walks back in and sits down "I still enjoy the forums."
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1327	Posted - 2014.01.10 10:42:00 - [4] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: correct me if i'm wrong but, the gallente AR is a "plasma rifle" and therefore it does EM/kinetic damage, but the caldari RR is more of a kinetic/thermal type of damage. caldari and amarr are allies but there biggest weakness are lasers so they need some type of protection from that ever in case the need arises Both Railguns and Blazers dot Kinetic/Thermal damage. They both use the same ammo, but they fire it differently. While blasters ionize the entire cartridge and then send it to the target with electro magnetic fields, railguns just fire the entire cartridge at the enemy with electromagnets. Blasters do a lot of thermal damage with a bit of kinetic damage as well, because the enemy is getting hit fairly hard with a large amount of hot plasma. Rails do a lot of kinetic damage with a bit of thermal damage a s well, because the enemy is getting hit really hard with containers that are oftentimes filled with matter that ionizes on impact. "I'm done!" slams doorGÇª walks back in and sits down "I still enjoy the forums."