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Posted - 2014.01.12 11:18:00 -
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Any time people bring up MD buffs, I think back to my last match against Regular Trooper and think what it would have been like if he'd had MORE DPS while spamming MD rounds in his assault CK.0. Then I think "No".
MD is, once again for those who missed it before, a support weapon. Not a slayer weapon. Which is why it's not got a DPS as high as say the AR's or the HMG's. It's meant for mopping up or softening targets and supression, not for wiping out hoards of people.
An ammo capacity increase would be fine, and honestly I'd like to see the reload be like the shotty where you reload one round at a time so you can interrupt your reload cycle to attack. Possibly increase the proectile travel time a tad or tweak the reload speed, maybe even increase the range a bit, but adding damage is trying to make it a slayer weapon, which is not it's role. That's like adding range to a shotty or adding accuracy and range to an HMG or removing recoil and sway from sniper rifles, it increases the size of it's niche and causes everything else to need to be rebalanced in order to bring everything back into alignment with it. Damage, ammo capacity and RoF are the balancing stats for the MD that keep it from being OP, much like accuracy and range are for the shotty & HMG and sway and recoil are for the sniper rifle. That is what defines their niche.
As irritating as his terrible grammar was..... I'm starting to miss Mr. Zitro.....
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Posted - 2014.01.18 09:01:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:trollface dot jpg wrote:Any time people bring up MD buffs, I think back to my last match against Regular Trooper and think what it would have been like if he'd had MORE DPS while spamming MD rounds in his assault CK.0. Then I think "No".
MD is not a slayer weapon. Which is why it's not got a DPS as high as say the AR's or the HMG's. It's meant for mopping up or softening targets and supression, not for wiping out hoards of people.
An ammo capacity increase would be fine, and honestly I'd like to see the reload be like the shotty where you reload one round at a time so you can interrupt your reload cycle to attack. Possibly increase the proectile travel time a tad or tweak the reload speed, maybe even increase the range a bit, but adding damage is trying to make it a slayer weapon, which is not it's role. That's like adding range to a shotty or adding accuracy and range to an HMG or removing recoil and sway from sniper rifles, it increases the size of it's niche and causes everything else to need to be rebalanced in order to bring everything back into alignment with it. Damage, ammo capacity and RoF are the balancing stats for the MD that keep it from being OP, much like accuracy and range are for the shotty & HMG and sway and recoil are for the sniper rifle. That is what defines their niche. I just disagree with this whole line of thinking.. ya lets pick a weapon that softens people as our main build.. if it was a sidearm id say fine.. I have to be able to compete, but more importantly stay alive.. which is next to impossible unless you get lucky up somewhere with no snipers on the whole map ..fat chance on that one.. And why do you get to choose its role anyways? Its a grenade launcher im pretty sure we all know what a grenade going of in our face would be like irl.. You think you should be able to take 4 or 5 well aimed shots from my fully maxed out skill tree and proto everything in your effen militia suit? THey took the stuff that made the gun fun.. the arc.. the smoke.. the area denial.. and then they nerfed it HARd.. Then they came back next update and nerfed it again? lol.. I havent played this game for 5 months because of the first nerf, now they really have KILLED IT.. RIP
Not responding in any particular order, I just like numbers.
1. I didn't "choose it's role". It's role is based on how it performs, not on what someone describes it as.
2. This game is not "irl". This game is not supposed to be like things "irl". If you think it is supposed to reflect things "irl", may I point you to the glowing miniature wormhole that is the uplink? Or the massive self repairing hunks of indestructible metal that Dust calls tanks? Or how about the magical handheld beam of caring called the repair tool that can fix things from several meters away.
3. Never said anything about taking 4-5 shots from a MD in a militia suit, let alone a maxed one. That's you putting words in my mouth.
4. The MD of Chromosome was much better, but it's hit detection was also terrible. This is because even though it had crap hit detection and low damage, it had decent ammo supplies, larger clips, a heavier jump effect on the target's crosshairs, a huge smoke cloud that obscured aim, and a more precise arc. It was a true area denial support weapon and I would love to return to it, but since no one wants to reduce the MD damage to the point that it accounts for chromosome's lack of hit detection, I don't see that happening.
5. Yeah, some people like to play support. That's why it's called a "support role". It may be a new concept to you, but believe it or not many people do quite well playing a support role and enjoy it immensely.
6. MD's got nerfed at the beginning of Uprising. Then they got buffed a few months later, with the fix they implemented for all explosives so that the blast radius' were all fixed and functioned properly. This also caused you to take damage twice though when the explosion hit both your head and your torso. SO this error in the coding was fixed, and hit detection was fixed on all weapons all around soon after that, so if you WANT to call that a nerf, that's on you, but they did not get nerfed again in Uprising. Dunno who you get your facts from buddy but I'd fire the guy.
As irritating as his terrible grammar was..... I'm starting to miss Mr. Zitro.....
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Posted - 2014.01.18 09:11:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:I don't know about you guys but I am very happy we dont see the god damn NOOB TUBES so much anymore. Flaylocks and Mass drivers are NOOB tubes and should be removed from the game.
You sir are either the weakest troll I have ever seen, or the most empty-headed lout ever to post in these forums. While I attempt to decide which, feel free to delete Dust and never post here again.
As irritating as his terrible grammar was..... I'm starting to miss Mr. Zitro.....
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