... for starters loving the combat rifle! This by far has to be best weapon imo. It is pretty well balanced.

As I am rusty from not playing this piece of crap game for almost 3-4 months now, I decided to tank myself for the first couple of matches just to get my grove back. Went pretty much positive the entire game and finished off with a 2.5 KD at the end of the game.

But this game was boring as hell. I have never ever been in a scenario where it has taken people more than 10 seconds to kill me after getting the drop on me. I mean seriously where are the days when you could down a person in 2-3 seconds when you got the drop on them. This pretty much continued for better parts of the entire match. I came to this conclusion at the end of the match;- the quality of players in the particular match were way below substandard. Yes! I said it! The quality of dust players right now is pathetic. Shooting and killing stationary dummies will be more of a challenge.

On to the next game and I get on my lol beast mode with my Raven assault loadout with the combat rifle. I am pretty much going ham on these idiots when suddenly;- bam bam bam im dead. I get sniped! I say whatever and move on. I go into the complex and suddenly again bam bam bam im dead again. It was time to hunt, kill and teabag that sniper.

As being an expert sniper myself i had a rough idea where that sniper was. I flank him and guess what;- the dude is exactly where I thought he would be in the red zone with a clear line of sight into the complex with absolutely nothing between him and the compound. If anybody had to flank him from the compound they would have about 400 mts of open space between them and the sniper.

Absolutely terribly horrible map design! After killing him and teabagging his sorry ass I see him on ground with a scrambler. Then I notice on the killfeed another sniper and I say to myself here were go again. I go the same spot and lo behold;- a numnut sniping from way beyond in the red zone He got the same treatment the other sniper got. Killed and teabagged. I decided to hang around there just to make sure none of those idiots in that team make the same mistake. An guess what;- the nunmut i killed before hope himself into a DS and tries to crush me with it. The idiot instead crashes the viper and gets himself killed and teabagged my again. Between those 2 numnuts of snipers I spent my time tango with an enemy rail tank. I swear it suprised the heck out of me when those rails fired at me as faster as a flaylock did. Im glad the tanker in question was garbage and couldnt hit me. But boy oh boy;- those rails are pretty mean and have a long range. I ended the game with a 4 KD.

And that was it for me.

Red lines need to be readjusted and red line rail tanks and snipers need to go. These things can make the game less fun for new comers.

TL;DR
New player bases is garbage
Red line rail tanks are garbage
Red line snipers are garbage

Thanks for the heads up but your stance is that good map design = no red line sniping? Don't you mean, good sniper = finds LOS regardless of map design?

You saying, "Who makes a military complex that doesn't obscure LOS against sniping?"

I've have given this some thought and I realized that we can try to block LOS with objects but then the routes around those objects become target points for the sniper. Does that make sense? Leme rephrase. By playing with the map design to make it hard for snipers, we will actually make it easier for snipers. A good sniper will always find LOS to a high traffic target point. You are a veteran sniper so you understand this right?

Red line sniping doesn't achieve anything other than being a minor annoyance.

I don't know about that... it got you to cry on the forums then subsequently quit Dust (again?).

Maybe I shall rephrase. By trying to block objectives LOS with map design we in turn create new points of high traffic for the snipers to target. So you understand that the objective is never really blocked.

Who doesn't "Love" the combat rifle
We all "love" it because you can spam a trigger and get 3x the bullets per trigger spam. Nothing kills quicker nowadays. It's not balanced in my opinion. Close, but not.

Didn't get your app yet !!!

So you ran into their red line just to tea bag them? Why...? That just makes you look like a 9 year old (no offense)

I am just impressed that you managed to Tea-Bag two players that died way behind their Red Line. You are either very fast, or very committed to Tea-Bagging.

So you based your conclusions about the players of this game on two matches?

lol

And welcome to the idiot bandwagon! I guess you did not read the part about me killing the snipers and teabagging their sorry asses. I guess playing so much dust scrambled your brains to the point they came out from where the sun dont shine.

QQ on that numnut!

Couldn't agree more, and no I wasn't the numnutz that tried to smush you in a viper.

You went out of your way, wasting valuable time you could be spending earning a victory for your team to kill a specific player (marginally useful) and then puesdo-humiliating that player (tea-bagging, useless).

Sounds like that sniper did a real number on you.

Oh and I wasn't QQ'ing, you were pumpkin.

Teabagging seems like a good way to discourage new players. That poor boy/girl probably quit the game after that, cried a little, and then went to play their 2DS.

While I don't approve of tea bagging, I have to say kudos for doing it past the redline. That's some hardcore dedication.

And welcome to the idiot bandwagon! I guess you did not read the part about me killing the snipers and teabagging their sorry asses. I guess playing so much dust scrambled your brains to the point they came out from where the sun dont shine.

QQ on that numnut!

I think counter-sniping is a legitimate way of spending a match. Winning is fun, but winning isn't everything. Player experience is where it counts. Nothing beats an awesome aerial dog fight in ADS against another ADS. Or the tense-heart pounding battle between two snipers shooting at each other from different mountains. What about the heavy who is desperately trying to cover open ground while Murder Taxis are trying to run him over, and he succeeds!!!

These are the kind of stories that will bring new players. Dust hasn't reached the point yet where winning actually matters to a merc. So in the mean time we should play how we want, with what we want if it means we are having fun doing so.

From a pub match point of view I agree wit your perspective and will give you due merits for your statements. However from a PC standpoint things are a lot different. For example snipers were/are rarely used in PC battles and if they were used they were smack in the middle or had eyes on 1 single objective. Tactics cheesy or otherwise win the game.

If one really needs to experience Dust they need to experience PC;- minus the awesome lag fest that it is now become. That is what brings out the best in dust.

It is to address better end user experience of Dust that I talked about addressing the red lines.

Exactly, Sentient. You spinusthisglorioustaleof being so rusty after not playing Dust in4 months (liar)and then proceed to explain how you owned these players behind the redline and went on to a 4 KD in game.

Then you tell us about how terrible for the game the redline is. What?

Either you epeen is stuck between you teeth or I have somehow misunderstood your compelling argument of why the redline is an obstacle to your superior gameplay.

Gtfo

yeah, I see what you mean. I've never been in a battle for Planet Control, my corp has never been rich enough to try to hold one down. I imagine those are the battles where everyone runs 70,000+ isk proto suits and proto modules and gives it their best.

That's a little out of league for me, my suit costs 2250 isk.

In Dust you shoot the bag (of bones) you dont tea..... ? Unless you're English then you certainly do TEA, 2 sugars?

... for starters loving the combat rifle! This by far has to be best weapon imo. It is pretty well balanced.

As I am rusty from not playing this piece of crap game for almost 3-4 months now, I decided to tank myself for the first couple of matches just to get my grove back. Went pretty much positive the entire game and finished off with a 2.5 KD at the end of the game.

But this game was boring as hell. I have never ever been in a scenario where it has taken people more than 10 seconds to kill me after getting the drop on me. I mean seriously where are the days when you could down a person in 2-3 seconds when you got the drop on them. This pretty much continued for better parts of the entire match. I came to this conclusion at the end of the match;- the quality of players in the particular match were way below substandard. Yes! I said it! The quality of dust players right now is pathetic. Shooting and killing stationary dummies will be more of a challenge.

On to the next game and I get on my lol beast mode with my Raven assault loadout with the combat rifle. I am pretty much going ham on these idiots when suddenly;- bam bam bam im dead. I get sniped! I say whatever and move on. I go into the complex and suddenly again bam bam bam im dead again. It was time to hunt, kill and teabag that sniper.

As being an expert sniper myself i had a rough idea where that sniper was. I flank him and guess what;- the dude is exactly where I thought he would be in the red zone with a clear line of sight into the complex with absolutely nothing between him and the compound. If anybody had to flank him from the compound they would have about 400 mts of open space between them and the sniper.

Absolutely terribly horrible map design! After killing him and teabagging his sorry ass I see him on ground with a scrambler. Then I notice on the killfeed another sniper and I say to myself here were go again. I go the same spot and lo behold;- a numnut sniping from way beyond in the red zone He got the same treatment the other sniper got. Killed and teabagged. I decided to hang around there just to make sure none of those idiots in that team make the same mistake. An guess what;- the nunmut i killed before hope himself into a DS and tries to crush me with it. The idiot instead crashes the viper and gets himself killed and teabagged my again. Between those 2 numnuts of snipers I spent my time tango with an enemy rail tank. I swear it suprised the heck out of me when those rails fired at me as faster as a flaylock did. Im glad the tanker in question was garbage and couldnt hit me. But boy oh boy;- those rails are pretty mean and have a long range. I ended the game with a 4 KD.

And that was it for me.

Red lines need to be readjusted and red line rail tanks and snipers need to go. These things can make the game less fun for new comers.

TL;DR
New player bases is garbage
Red line rail tanks are garbage
Red line snipers are garbage

how can it be the best and balanced? stopped reading after that