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Aero Yassavi wrote:

Denak Kalamari wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

It's called feedback. Many of us are simply expressing our concerns, some even providing possible alternatives. To those who are simply freaking out and not providing clear and thorough feedback as to why, just chalk it up as negative feedback and move along.

You can't not seek customer feedback because a few people may freak out or you're afraid no one will like it. That's why you tell us the information early. I know nothing listed is finalized, but nonetheless can you imagine if CCP released stuff this major without telling us until the last second? That what you need to worry about CCP. Telling us info now, having the doomsdaysayers freak out now, and gathering your customer feedback is what you need to be doing now before anything is finalized. Trust me, we've all seen how bad things get when told at the last minute. At least now you'd be able to take in some feedback and the haters will have had some time to accept it.

Thing is, CCP didn't tell us anything. They just put some files in the SiSi server, which is a test server and everyone freaks out and threatens CCP with account cancellations and virtual rampages. The SiSi has a lot of other things too that have been there for years and never seen the light of day, so anything you see in that server should be taken with a heavy grain of salt. And as Kaisar said, feedback is good, rage threads are not.

Also, undue panic should be put as a check just for the nature of how this information was discovered.

I know it's a test server, but the only reason things are put on the test server is to get our feedback. Ignore the people freaking out and focus on the people providing constructive feedback. For example, look at the Assault bonuses on the test server and look at my constructive feedback here
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134412&find=unread

Perhaps that will influence what gets put in the actual update in some way, but clearly a lot of people do not like the listed Assault bonuses so hopefully given that load of negative feedback they will be able to change it to at least anything else before it gets put in an update.

Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57

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Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1575	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:07:00 - [1] - Quote Read this. So funny cause it's true. We've done literally everything on that list. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6317	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:09:00 - [2] - Quote I'm short of prematurely deleting my account. XD OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 822	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:11:00 - [3] - Quote But I pointed this out first! Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 31st
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1576	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:17:00 - [4] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: But I pointed this out first! Then you deserve a like for your efforts. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Aero Yassavi Yassavi House 4426	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:25:00 - [5] - Quote It's called feedback. Many of us are simply expressing our concerns, some even providing possible alternatives. To those who are simply freaking out and not providing clear and thorough feedback as to why, just chalk it up as negative feedback and move along. You can't not seek customer feedback because a few people may freak out or you're afraid no one will like it. That's why you tell us the information early. I know nothing listed is finalized, but nonetheless can you imagine if CCP released stuff this major without telling us until the last second? That what you need to worry about CCP. Telling us info now, having the doomsdaysayers freak out now, and gathering your customer feedback is what you need to be doing now before anything is finalized. Trust me, we've all seen how bad things get when told at the last minute. At least now you'd be able to take in some feedback and the haters will have had some time to accept it. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Lorhak Gannarsein 1142	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:25:00 - [6] - Quote Well, Mortedeamor already quit the game over it, does that count? :( PRO tanker and proud. Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD)
Aero Yassavi Yassavi House 4426	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:28:00 - [7] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Well, Mortedeamor already quit the game over it, does that count? :( Not until the 24 hour waiting period is over and the character is deleted. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 69	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:32:00 - [8] - Quote Does this count as premature account cancellation didn't sound like he deleting just jumping ship until a respec or something.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1584	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:33:00 - [9] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: It's called feedback. Many of us are simply expressing our concerns, some even providing possible alternatives. To those who are simply freaking out and not providing clear and thorough feedback as to why, just chalk it up as negative feedback and move along. You can't not seek customer feedback because a few people may freak out or you're afraid no one will like it. That's why you tell us the information early. I know nothing listed is finalized, but nonetheless can you imagine if CCP released stuff this major without telling us until the last second? That what you need to worry about CCP. Telling us info now, having the doomsdaysayers freak out now, and gathering your customer feedback is what you need to be doing now before anything is finalized. Trust me, we've all seen how bad things get when told at the last minute. At least now you'd be able to take in some feedback and the haters will have had some time to accept it. Feedback is constructive. Half of the threads are people just flipping out. There is some excellent feedback threads, but a vast majority is this widespread panic. It's actually kind of funny. And the fact that the Devs knew that this would happen is flat out hilarious. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1584	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:33:00 - [10] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Does this count as premature account cancellation didn't sound like he deleting just jumping ship until a respec or something. Biomass is required. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.

Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 822	Posted - 2014.01.08 08:15:00 - [11] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: It's called feedback. Many of us are simply expressing our concerns, some even providing possible alternatives. To those who are simply freaking out and not providing clear and thorough feedback as to why, just chalk it up as negative feedback and move along. You can't not seek customer feedback because a few people may freak out or you're afraid no one will like it. That's why you tell us the information early. I know nothing listed is finalized, but nonetheless can you imagine if CCP released stuff this major without telling us until the last second? That what you need to worry about CCP. Telling us info now, having the doomsdaysayers freak out now, and gathering your customer feedback is what you need to be doing now before anything is finalized. Trust me, we've all seen how bad things get when told at the last minute. At least now you'd be able to take in some feedback and the haters will have had some time to accept it. Thing is, CCP didn't tell us anything. They just put some files in the SiSi server, which is a *test server* and everyone freaks out and threatens CCP with account cancellations and virtual rampages. The SiSi has a lot of other things too that have been there for years and never seen the light of day, so anything you see in that server should be taken with a heavy grain of salt. And as Kaisar said, feedback is good, rage threads are not. Also, undue panic should be put as a check just for the nature of how this information was discovered. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 31st
Aero Yassavi Yassavi House 4431	Posted - 2014.01.08 08:20:00 - [12] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: It's called feedback. Many of us are simply expressing our concerns, some even providing possible alternatives. To those who are simply freaking out and not providing clear and thorough feedback as to why, just chalk it up as negative feedback and move along. You can't not seek customer feedback because a few people may freak out or you're afraid no one will like it. That's why you tell us the information early. I know nothing listed is finalized, but nonetheless can you imagine if CCP released stuff this major without telling us until the last second? That what you need to worry about CCP. Telling us info now, having the doomsdaysayers freak out now, and gathering your customer feedback is what you need to be doing now before anything is finalized. Trust me, we've all seen how bad things get when told at the last minute. At least now you'd be able to take in some feedback and the haters will have had some time to accept it. Thing is, CCP didn't tell us anything. They just put some files in the SiSi server, which is a *test server* and everyone freaks out and threatens CCP with account cancellations and virtual rampages. The SiSi has a lot of other things too that have been there for years and never seen the light of day, so anything you see in that server should be taken with a heavy grain of salt. And as Kaisar said, feedback is good, rage threads are not. Also, undue panic should be put as a check just for the nature of how this information was discovered. I know it's a test server, but the only reason things are put on the test server is to get our feedback. Ignore the people freaking out and focus on the people providing constructive feedback. For example, look at the Assault bonuses on the test server and look at my constructive feedback here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134412&find=unread Perhaps that will influence what gets put in the actual update in some way, but clearly a lot of people do not like the listed Assault bonuses so hopefully given that load of negative feedback they will be able to change it to at least anything else before it gets put in an update. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1590	Posted - 2014.01.08 08:22:00 - [13] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Denak Kalamari wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: It's called feedback. Many of us are simply expressing our concerns, some even providing possible alternatives. To those who are simply freaking out and not providing clear and thorough feedback as to why, just chalk it up as negative feedback and move along. You can't not seek customer feedback because a few people may freak out or you're afraid no one will like it. That's why you tell us the information early. I know nothing listed is finalized, but nonetheless can you imagine if CCP released stuff this major without telling us until the last second? That what you need to worry about CCP. Telling us info now, having the doomsdaysayers freak out now, and gathering your customer feedback is what you need to be doing now before anything is finalized. Trust me, we've all seen how bad things get when told at the last minute. At least now you'd be able to take in some feedback and the haters will have had some time to accept it. Thing is, CCP didn't tell us anything. They just put some files in the SiSi server, which is a *test server* and everyone freaks out and threatens CCP with account cancellations and virtual rampages. The SiSi has a lot of other things too that have been there for years and never seen the light of day, so anything you see in that server should be taken with a heavy grain of salt. And as Kaisar said, feedback is good, rage threads are not. Also, undue panic should be put as a check just for the nature of how this information was discovered. I know it's a test server, but the only reason things are put on the test server is to get our feedback. Ignore the people freaking out and focus on the people providing constructive feedback. For example, look at the Assault bonuses on the test server and look at my constructive feedback here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134412&find=unread Perhaps that will influence what gets put in the actual update in some way, but clearly a lot of people do not like the listed Assault bonuses so hopefully given that load of negative feedback they will be able to change it to at least anything else before it gets put in an update. You gotta admit though, the panic is freaking hilarious. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 822	Posted - 2014.01.08 08:23:00 - [14] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: I know it's a test server, but the only reason things are put on the test server is to get our feedback. Ignore the people freaking out and focus on the people providing constructive feedback. For example, look at the Assault bonuses on the test server and look at my constructive feedback here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134412&find=unread Perhaps that will influence what gets put in the actual update in some way, but clearly a lot of people do not like the listed Assault bonuses so hopefully given that load of negative feedback they will be able to change it to at least anything else before it gets put in an update. That's perfectly fine, I don't mind that and I pointed this out. But more than half the threads here seem to be more mindless raging and senseless threats to CCP than actual constructive feedback, not to mention all the cynicism going on about CCP screwing up anyway. Really, this entire community is one of the worst ones I have ever been to. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 31st
Aero Yassavi Yassavi House 4432	Posted - 2014.01.08 08:29:00 - [15] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: I know it's a test server, but the only reason things are put on the test server is to get our feedback. Ignore the people freaking out and focus on the people providing constructive feedback. For example, look at the Assault bonuses on the test server and look at my constructive feedback here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134412&find=unread Perhaps that will influence what gets put in the actual update in some way, but clearly a lot of people do not like the listed Assault bonuses so hopefully given that load of negative feedback they will be able to change it to at least anything else before it gets put in an update. That's perfectly fine, I don't mind that and I pointed this out. But more than half the threads here seem to be more mindless raging and senseless threats to CCP than actual constructive feedback, not to mention all the cynicism going on about CCP screwing up anyway. Really, this entire community is one of the worst ones I have ever been to. That doesn't mean you don't seek customer feedback though. It's a public forums, it's going to be a mess. But that's why they hire community managers. Their job is to filter through all the mindless raging and senseless threats and find the constructive feedback. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 838	Posted - 2014.01.08 10:45:00 - [16] - Quote Damn it, I'm biomassing. Sick of this bullshit! {:)}{3GÇó> "Well, at least he didn't do that walking against the wind sh!t. I hate that."
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1422	Posted - 2014.01.08 10:53:00 - [17] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: Also, undue panic should be put as a check just for the nature of how this information was discovered. This is why I think the CPM should have at least been told 24 hours in advance, they can't really do anything about it but it would have prepared them for what was to come and it would have given us, if nothing else, a feeling that we are involved and in the end that is all most of us want. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
jin foxdale Jedi Slime. 147	Posted - 2014.01.08 11:49:00 - [18] - Quote Without filming it and posting to youtube or similar, I imagine its quite easy to fake a biomassing using just pictures? Especially if you've just one character on the one account? I'll never do it. Im gonna give jin to my son if he wants him in a few years. mmmm, 5 years passive sp... If you see me in the redline, driving an LAV in circles, fear not! Its my two year old son enjoying New Eden.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1527	Posted - 2014.01.08 13:04:00 - [19] - Quote The OP is right. There is entirely too much undue panic here. Even if we assume that these numbers are final, there's a lot of missing information. Feedback is fine, but people do need to cool their jets just a tad until more infos are available. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2438	Posted - 2014.01.08 13:09:00 - [20] - Quote My new theory, founded purely on my own gut feeling, is that the more rampant speculation and premature rage quitting a release has the better it is. This next release, whatever it will be called, is shaping up nicely and it hasn't even left the planning stage. // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana



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