DUST Search - Amarr=Armor NOT 2% REP PER LEVEL

Rei Shepard wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

KenKaniff69 wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

KenKaniff69 wrote:

lol complex rep w/ maxed skill.
6.25 hp/s exclusive to the race with the fewest slots.

Can you say pathetic?

Armor reps are a complete joke.

CCP Logibro confirmed that they are tweaking various suits' HP, CPU, PG, Slots, and other various base stats. With that said, there is not enough evidence to confirm nor deny anything. Just because the Amarr Assault suit we know today has the fewest slots doesn't mean the Amarr Assault suit they planned this bonus for has the fewest slots.

It's the armor rep itself. 5 hp base at complex. WTF It should rep 10 so the skills could actually multiply something.

FYI, the game does count decimals in your health in your armor and armor repair rate, even if it's not listed. So a complex armor repair module does 5 hp/s. But to get a complex armor repair module, you have to have level 5 armor repair systems, which grants 25% more efficacy of the modules. Then combine that with the Amarr Assault bonus. So that is:
5 hp/s * 1.25 * 1.25 = 7.8125 hp/s. So each complex repair module will actually do 7.8125 repair per second.

Witch is sadly useless during combat, your better off having 40-85 more EHP to survive a fight then to actually loose EHP to run a repper that gets a 1.6 extra Reps / second.

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Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 2184	Posted - 2014.01.08 05:46:00 - [1] - Quote :[ Armor reps are terribad. Gallente is going to be the new FOTM. Calling it now. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 513	Posted - 2014.01.08 05:48:00 - [2] - Quote 1053 armor along with a decrease in active scanner Db? Hellz yea. Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) I have a God, His name is Dakka.
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1796	Posted - 2014.01.08 05:48:00 - [3] - Quote TBH i love Amarr but there is no reason to use it over gallente if they enact the bonus of SISI Selling Templar BPO 300Mil Earn 25Mil+ ISK in Dust
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1354	Posted - 2014.01.08 05:49:00 - [4] - Quote I doubt there will be any FOTM. The possible changes to dropsuits seem semi-balanced. If anything, I have a feeling the Assault mk.0 will be making more appearances as a primary slayer on the field.
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 2184	Posted - 2014.01.08 05:51:00 - [5] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: TBH i love Amarr but there is no reason to use it over gallente if they enact the bonus of SISI No one cares about armor reps. When your shot your dead. The Amarr Suit is great because of the laser bonus. The rep bonus is making it worthless like the basic variant. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6312	Posted - 2014.01.08 05:54:00 - [6] - Quote I'm calling it now... The data that you see now is NOT final. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 2184	Posted - 2014.01.08 05:54:00 - [7] - Quote We are buffer tanks! We hide behind the mighty armor of amarr. NOT A STUPID REP! "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1309	Posted - 2014.01.08 05:58:00 - [8] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: I doubt there will be any FOTM. The possible changes to dropsuits seem semi-balanced. If anything, I have a feeling the Assault mk.0 will be making more appearances as a primary slayer on the field. The Assault Mk.0 looks like the best assault, and the Logistics Gk.0 looks like the best logistics suit if the proposed bonuses are true. Meanwhile, the Assault Ak.0, and Logistics Ak.0 look to be the worst of both classes. Why does CCP hate the Amarr? Fizzer94 // Level 1 Forum Warrior // Hello, world!
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 976	Posted - 2014.01.08 06:00:00 - [9] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: No one cares about armor reps. When your shot your dead. The Amarr Suit is great because of the laser bonus. I keep hearing this kind of statements, but even in my STD assault suit this is far from the case. Are you all just bad?
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 2186	Posted - 2014.01.08 06:06:00 - [10] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: No one cares about armor reps. When your shot your dead. The Amarr Suit is great because of the laser bonus. I keep hearing this kind of statements, but even in my STD assault suit this is far from the case. Are you all just bad? No here is the truth. You are walking along. You get blindsided by two rail rifles lighting you up at the same time. Maybe you jump spin and kill one person and make it behind the crate to hide while you pray for the 2/hp per sec reps save you. You have no HP left. Mean while your getting rushed because they know you are near dead, and your scrambler rifle is overheated in your hands. Can't switch weapons can't sprint for the next 6 seconds. All while you have a WHOPPING 15 hp regained, Maybe you just die instantly from the rails. The AMARR suit is useless without the laser bonus, it is effective as the basic variant. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6314	Posted - 2014.01.08 06:11:00 - [11] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Rasatsu wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: No one cares about armor reps. When your shot your dead. The Amarr Suit is great because of the laser bonus. I keep hearing this kind of statements, but even in my STD assault suit this is far from the case. Are you all just bad? No here is the truth. You are walking along. You get blindsided by two rail rifles lighting you up at the same time. Maybe you jump spin and kill one person and make it behind the crate to hide while you pray for the 2/hp per sec reps save you. You have no HP left. Mean while your getting rushed because they know you are near dead, and your scrambler rifle is overheated in your hands. Can't switch weapons can't sprint for the next 6 seconds. All while you have a WHOPPING 15 hp regained, Maybe you just die instantly from the rails. The AMARR suit is useless without the laser bonus, it is effective as the basic variant. But here is the thing. We don't have any idea if the base stats of the suits will be changed. Will the slot layouts change? Will the armor/shield HP be changed? Will the CPU/PG be changed? Without these data points to go by, we won't get the full context of the changes. Keep in mind that the data shown on SiSi is very limited on the suits as we can't see suit stats on Eve Online yet. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Lorhak Gannarsein 1142	Posted - 2014.01.08 06:54:00 - [12] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: Rasatsu wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: No one cares about armor reps. When your shot your dead. The Amarr Suit is great because of the laser bonus. I keep hearing this kind of statements, but even in my STD assault suit this is far from the case. Are you all just bad? No here is the truth. You are walking along. You get blindsided by two rail rifles lighting you up at the same time. Maybe you jump spin and kill one person and make it behind the crate to hide while you pray for the 2/hp per sec reps save you. You have no HP left. Mean while your getting rushed because they know you are near dead, and your scrambler rifle is overheated in your hands. Can't switch weapons can't sprint for the next 6 seconds. All while you have a WHOPPING 15 hp regained, Maybe you just die instantly from the rails. The AMARR suit is useless without the laser bonus, it is effective as the basic variant. But here is the thing. We don't have any idea if the base stats of the suits will be changed. Will the slot layouts change? Will the armor/shield HP be changed? Will the CPU/PG be changed? Without these data points to go by, we won't get the full context of the changes. Keep in mind that the data shown on SiSi is very limited on the suits as we can't see suit stats on Eve Online yet. Gonna have to call you out for a strawman there, Maken. Of course we don't; that's why we're basing conclusions on the data we do have. And as far as the finality of these stats is concerned... don't forget that we have a precedent in the Ferroscale and Reactive plates. PRO tanker and proud. Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD)
BuTtHuRtPEepZ Raging Pack of Homosapiens 158	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:19:00 - [13] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: TBH i love Amarr but there is no reason to use it over gallente if they enact the bonus of SISI that feel when i JUST bought templar BPOs from you :(
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1797	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:22:00 - [14] - Quote lol complex rep w/ maxed skill. 6.25 hp/s exclusive to the race with the fewest slots. Can you say pathetic? Armor reps are a complete joke. So about those vehicle locks...
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 7643	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:25:00 - [15] - Quote Gallente will be FotM? Have you looked at the Caldari stats? 700 shields with actually decent regen anyone? You don't even need a damage mod with that RoF bonus. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Aero Yassavi Yassavi House 4426	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:27:00 - [16] - Quote KenKaniff69 wrote: lol complex rep w/ maxed skill. 6.25 hp/s exclusive to the race with the fewest slots. Can you say pathetic? Armor reps are a complete joke. CCP Logibro confirmed that they are tweaking various suits' HP, CPU, PG, Slots, and other various base stats. With that said, there is not enough evidence to confirm nor deny anything. Just because the Amarr Assault suit we know today has the fewest slots doesn't mean the Amarr Assault suit they planned this bonus for has the fewest slots. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1797	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:35:00 - [17] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: lol complex rep w/ maxed skill. 6.25 hp/s exclusive to the race with the fewest slots. Can you say pathetic? Armor reps are a complete joke. CCP Logibro confirmed that they are tweaking various suits' HP, CPU, PG, Slots, and other various base stats. With that said, there is not enough evidence to confirm nor deny anything. Just because the Amarr Assault suit we know today has the fewest slots doesn't mean the Amarr Assault suit they planned this bonus for has the fewest slots. It's the armor rep itself. 5 hp base at complex. WTF It should rep 10 so the skills could actually multiply something. Edit: Btw remember what happened with reactive and feroscale plates when we saw them earlier as arkenai pointed out in another thread. Notice how they are still pathetic to this day. So about those vehicle locks...
Aero Yassavi Yassavi House 4427	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:43:00 - [18] - Quote KenKaniff69 wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: lol complex rep w/ maxed skill. 6.25 hp/s exclusive to the race with the fewest slots. Can you say pathetic? Armor reps are a complete joke. CCP Logibro confirmed that they are tweaking various suits' HP, CPU, PG, Slots, and other various base stats. With that said, there is not enough evidence to confirm nor deny anything. Just because the Amarr Assault suit we know today has the fewest slots doesn't mean the Amarr Assault suit they planned this bonus for has the fewest slots. It's the armor rep itself. 5 hp base at complex. WTF It should rep 10 so the skills could actually multiply something. FYI, the game does count decimals in your health in your armor and armor repair rate, even if it's not listed. So a complex armor repair module does 5 hp/s. But to get a complex armor repair module, you have to have level 5 armor repair systems, which grants 25% more efficacy of the modules. Then combine that with the Amarr Assault bonus. So that is: 5 hp/s * 1.25 * 1.25 = 7.8125 hp/s. So each complex repair module will actually do 7.8125 repair per second. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1363	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:59:00 - [19] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: lol complex rep w/ maxed skill. 6.25 hp/s exclusive to the race with the fewest slots. Can you say pathetic? Armor reps are a complete joke. CCP Logibro confirmed that they are tweaking various suits' HP, CPU, PG, Slots, and other various base stats. With that said, there is not enough evidence to confirm nor deny anything. Just because the Amarr Assault suit we know today has the fewest slots doesn't mean the Amarr Assault suit they planned this bonus for has the fewest slots. It's the armor rep itself. 5 hp base at complex. WTF It should rep 10 so the skills could actually multiply something. FYI, the game does count decimals in your health in your armor and armor repair rate, even if it's not listed. So a complex armor repair module does 5 hp/s. But to get a complex armor repair module, you have to have level 5 armor repair systems, which grants 25% more efficacy of the modules. Then combine that with the Amarr Assault bonus. So that is: 5 hp/s * 1.25 * 1.25 = 7.8125 hp/s. So each complex repair module will actually do 7.8125 repair per second. Witch is sadly useless during combat, your better off having 40-85 more EHP to survive a fight then to actually loose EHP to run a repper that gets a 1.6 extra Reps / second. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Omareth Nasadra The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 237	Posted - 2014.01.08 08:03:00 - [20] - Quote wait and see Minmatar, In rust we trust!!! Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes

stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 903	Posted - 2014.01.08 13:19:00 - [21] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: lol complex rep w/ maxed skill. 6.25 hp/s exclusive to the race with the fewest slots. Can you say pathetic? Armor reps are a complete joke. CCP Logibro confirmed that they are tweaking various suits' HP, CPU, PG, Slots, and other various base stats. With that said, there is not enough evidence to confirm nor deny anything. Just because the Amarr Assault suit we know today has the fewest slots doesn't mean the Amarr Assault suit they planned this bonus for has the fewest slots. It's the armor rep itself. 5 hp base at complex. WTF It should rep 10 so the skills could actually multiply something. FYI, the game does count decimals in your health in your armor and armor repair rate, even if it's not listed. So a complex armor repair module does 5 hp/s. But to get a complex armor repair module, you have to have level 5 armor repair systems, which grants 25% more efficacy of the modules. Then combine that with the Amarr Assault bonus. So that is: 5 hp/s * 1.25 * 1.25 = 7.8125 hp/s. So each complex repair module will actually do 7.8125 repair per second. Witch is sadly useless during combat, your better off having 40-85 more EHP to survive a fight then to actually loose EHP to run a repper that gets a 1.6 extra Reps / second. Lol not really, if you have better strafing and better aim then the enemy you'll win unless you right in front of a heavy or facing a weapon that perfectly counters you. Having fast reps means you can kill some one, rep quickly, then go kill again. Also lets say the guy is right with the 7.8 armor reps a second if you get in a gun fight with some one and you make him miss enough with your strafing that he has to reload lets say 3 sec as its the AR's base reload and an RR's with reload skill, and if you have 1-2 armor reps on you'll gain 23.4 - 46.8 HP. Even he doesn't hit the reload or he has a side arm you're constantly gaining HP during the fight, so the skilled players who can actually strafe and make people miss will gain decent HP during the fight, and if you have cover you can quickly regen you health by ducking in and out of cover. Also if you don't like the new bonuses for amarr assault skill into a different suit, I'm already saving my SP to switch to a different protosuit. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1894	Posted - 2014.01.08 13:23:00 - [22] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: 1053 armor along with a decrease in active scanner Db? Hellz yea. That would be the Logi. I have no idea what the new Gallente assault bonus will be. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 2199	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:18:00 - [23] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Lol not really, if you have better strafing and better aim then the enemy you'll win unless you right in front of a heavy or facing a weapon that perfectly counters you. Having fast reps means you can kill some one, rep quickly, then go kill again. Also lets say the guy is right with the 7.8 armor reps a second if you get in a gun fight with some one and you make him miss enough with your strafing that he has to reload lets say 3 sec as its the AR's base reload and an RR's with reload skill, and if you have 1-2 armor reps on you'll gain 23.4 - 46.8 HP. Even he doesn't hit the reload or he has a side arm you're constantly gaining HP during the fight, so the skilled players who can actually strafe and make people miss will gain decent HP during the fight, and if you have cover you can quickly regen you health by ducking in and out of cover. Also if you don't like the new bonuses for amarr assault skill into a different suit, I'm already saving my SP to switch to a different protosuit. Take that matari hit and run blasphemy out of this thread. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 2199	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:20:00 - [24] - Quote Omareth Nasadra wrote: wait and see Why the wink? Can't afford an eye patch? Poor Matari. >:D "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1391	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:29:00 - [25] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Witch is sadly useless during combat, your better off having 40-85 more EHP to survive a fight then to actually loose EHP to run a repper that gets a 1.6 extra Reps / second. I take it you run with a logi bro all the time? Otherwise you're setting yourself up to die in the next firefight. People don't go 20/0 without repairing armor in some fashion. But I do agree... CCP is screwing with their own lore. Amarr should get HP bonuses, Gallente should get rep bonuses. Forum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 300/1000XP) [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
jerrmy12 kahoalii The Phoenix Federation 242	Posted - 2014.01.08 18:54:00 - [26] - Quote KenKaniff69 wrote: lol complex rep w/ maxed skill. 6.25 hp/s exclusive to the race with the fewest slots. Can you say pathetic? Armor reps are a complete joke. Thats the rep from reps level 5, I get 10 reps per second on my adv amarr logi I use a tablet so beware of typos
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 821	Posted - 2014.01.08 19:05:00 - [27] - Quote It's annoying hearing about how bad "Armor Rep" is. Getting 12.05-25 HP per second is legit. In certain gun fights, your recovery is a major advantage, despite the TTK. The silly thing is that even though Amarr should be the "stronghold" dropsuits with the best armor tanking capability, they could still make it work with the damn Armor Rep and their Scramble Rifles' range. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2099	Posted - 2014.01.08 19:33:00 - [28] - Quote Amarr suits have a balance of base Shield and Armor. Now by the time the Shield recharges you will likely have a lot of your armor back too. 2 Armor Repair on an Amarr Assault suit will be equivalent to 3 Armor repair on any other suit. The Amarr Assault will have more up-time than the Gallente, unless the Gallente is working with a logi. Basically it will make the Amarr Assault suit play more like a Shield suit. Armor Repair also works contentiously, with no recharged delay, although it will be slower. It is possible that 5% per level may not be enough to balance it against the other bonuses, but the bonus itself has merit. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.


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