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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:17:00 -
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Caldari Assaults running around with 600+ Sheilds
Gallente Assaults crawling around with 800+ Armor
No Logis
Caldari Commandos carrying dual Rail Rifles (gotta go full tryhard mode  ) with 800+ HP
Unstoppable Heavies
Scouts crying in corners
I guess I'll be speccing into Minmatar Logi AND Caldari Assault. When I'm starting to get pissed off about those Commandos, I'll just pull out my Minny Logi and follow around one of my fat friends.
/rant
Discuss.
Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1779
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:18:00 -
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I don't see heavies becoming unstoppable given the Assaults DPS and HP (for the most part) substantially increasing.
Scouts though... Ouch...
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis CALSF
466
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:20:00 -
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Bout time the slayers and bullet soakers get their balls back and shields get to you know tank
We fight for the future of the State not our
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
224
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:20:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Caldari Assaults running around with 600+ Sheilds Gallente Assaults crawling around with 800+ Armor No Logis Caldari Commandos carrying dual Rail Rifles (gotta go full tryhard mode ) with 800+ HP Unstoppable Heavies Scouts crying in corners I guess I'll be speccing into Minmatar Logi AND Caldari Assault. When I'm starting to get pissed off about those Commandos, I'll just pull out my Minny Logi and follow around one of my fat friends. /rant Discuss. Where are the new bonuses listed?
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Callidus Vanus
State Patriots
189
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:21:00 -
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1. Flux grenades
2. Any explosive + combat rifles
3. Logis will now be used by people you want to be a logi
4. you exaggerating
5. just avoid them, its not like they can run or anything
6. Nothing new there.
If you are reading this then you are on the forums, leave immediately to retain your enjoyment of Dust 514.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
3140
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:22:00 -
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You're looking too much into this.
Something like love, something like hope. Something like beautiful, something I wrote GùòGÇ+Gå+
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
1190
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:22:00 -
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I think you are vastly overstating the potential impact of these bonuses. Mind you I could be wrong, it has happened before, but I feel like with the extremely short TTK the extra HP the Cal and Gal assaults are getting will only give them a couple of ticks more life span.
The Amarr assault looks like it could be an armor beast though since it will essentially have a proto rep module installed without needed to actually run one. The loss of the heat reduction bonus is a sad counterpoint to this though since it is perhaps the only assault bonus that actually makes sense.
Good thing none of these ideas are set in stone.
Fun > Realism
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Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
131
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:22:00 -
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Quote:Where are the new bonuses listed?
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
421
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:23:00 -
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-No Logis
ill still logi like iv always have,someone has you rep your a$$
A strange game.
The only winning move is
not to play.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
3773
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:23:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:You're looking too much into this.
My own opinion is mine.
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Aero Yassavi
Yassavi House
4406
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:24:00 -
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I imagine the Caldari Commando going going Rail Rifle + Sniper Rifle combo. Imagine that, picking people off from afar and then as soon as someone gets remotely close you pop out the Rail Rifle.
Personally I've been using the Amarr Commando with the Scrambler Rifle and Laser Rifle for ages, but the LR is garbage now so I switched to Scrambler Rifle and Assault Scrambler Rifle and loving it, can't wait for the updated skill bonus!
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
No, it's Super Amarr!
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
3773
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:24:00 -
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Logi Stician wrote:Quote:Where are the new bonuses listed?
This.
You haven't seen them? o_O
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LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
265
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:25:00 -
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Commando suit is a heavy suit, I think that's good as long as the shield regen stay slow as it is now.
"Cry HavoK!, and let slip the dogs of war!"
-Medical/Intel Logibro and Swarm Commando-
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LEHON Xeon
Pradox XVI
20
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:27:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:I think you are vastly overstating the potential impact of these bonuses. Mind you I could be wrong, it has happened before, but I feel like with the extremely short TTK the extra HP the Cal and Gal assaults are getting will only give them a couple of ticks more life span.
The Amarr assault looks like it could be an armor beast though since it will essentially have a proto rep module installed without needed to actually run one. The loss of the heat reduction bonus is a sad counterpoint to this though since it is perhaps the only assault bonus that actually makes sense.
Good thing none of these ideas are set in stone.
I thought about that also. Made me wonder how truly effective the extra armor or shielding bonuses would be given the enhanced ROF and further reduced TTK. Probably would buy an extra few seconds at the most, which would only be useful in extreme CQC.
If Walking Is So Good For You, Then Why Does My Mailman Look Like Jabba The Hut?
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
2694
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:28:00 -
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Commando wise?
I'm as happy as a duck in water :D
Logi wise?
I'm flipping pi$$ed!!!!! >:(
Proud member of the Commando 6
<3 Commando AK.0
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Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
131
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:28:00 -
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Many thanks!
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
3773
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:28:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:I think you are vastly overstating the potential impact of these bonuses. Mind you I could be wrong, it has happened before, but I feel like with the extremely short TTK the extra HP the Cal and Gal assaults are getting will only give them a couple of ticks more life span.
The Amarr assault looks like it could be an armor beast though since it will essentially have a proto rep module installed without needed to actually run one. The loss of the heat reduction bonus is a sad counterpoint to this though since it is perhaps the only assault bonus that actually makes sense.
Good thing none of these ideas are set in stone.
First off, it's my own opinion, I'm not trying to get anyone to agree with me.
Honestly, with a Minmatar Logi repping them, those Commandos will be CrAzY 
Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
2697
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:30:00 -
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LuckyLuke Wargan wrote:Commando suit is a heavy suit, I think that's good as long as the shield regen stay slow as it is now.
Edit: Too bad I'm alread invested in the Ammar one, for that one I stil hope for a shield regen boost.
NO!!!!!!! The commando desperately needs a shield regen buff!!!!!!
It currently takes 40 seconds for my proto commando to go from 0-400 shields!!!!! 40 SECONDS!!!!!!!!
Proud member of the Commando 6
<3 Commando AK.0
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LEHON Xeon
Pradox XVI
20
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:31:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Commando wise?
I'm as happy as a duck in water :D
Logi wise?
I'm flipping pi$$ed!!!!! >:(
Right with ya on that one. With these new bonuses, logi is not even anywhere recognizable to what it was. I wasn't just a slayer logi either. I made myself formidable in a firefight but I also did an active logi role with healing people at times and using hives and uplinks. TBH if they wouldn't have gotten rid of my passive armor repair bonus, I'd probably still use it if everything else stayed identical to current.
If Walking Is So Good For You, Then Why Does My Mailman Look Like Jabba The Hut?
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LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
265
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:35:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Commando wise?
I'm as happy as a duck in water :D
Logi wise?
I'm flipping pi$$ed!!!!! >:(
Just checked your signature link, you guys till run the "commando squadron" channel? As a commando myself I 'd love to add that channel to my list... Though my Swarms I use with it just got hit by the nerf hammer... hopefully it will be buffed again next built.
"Cry HavoK!, and let slip the dogs of war!"
-Medical/Intel Logibro and Swarm Commando-
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Oswald Rehnquist
1000
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:35:00 -
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No logis?
If there will be no logis after the changes, there were no logis before the changes as they were just logisalts, which was 50-70% of the entire population of dust.
Also scouts haven't seen love since Chrom, and a little just recently with the removal of auto detection by installation and objectives, we are used to crying, this isn't new.
Good on the Commando/Sentinels though, was about time.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
2700
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:39:00 -
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LuckyLuke Wargan wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Commando wise?
I'm as happy as a duck in water :D
Logi wise?
I'm flipping pi$$ed!!!!! >:( Just checked your signature link, you guys till run the "commando squadron" channel? As a commando myself I 'd love to add that channel to my list... Though my Swarms I use with it just got hit by the nerf hammer... hopefully it will be buffed again next built.
Yup, I'm always in the channel and so are several others :)
The more the merrier, hope to see you there  o7
Proud member of the Commando 6
<3 Commando AK.0
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
3777
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:42:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:No logis?
If there will be no logis after the changes, there were no logis before the changes as they were just logisalts, which was 50-70% of the entire population of dust.
Also scouts haven't seen love since Chrom, and a little just recently with the removal of auto detection by installation and objectives, we are used to crying, this isn't new.
Good on the Commando/Sentinels though, was about time.
Meh
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LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
268
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:43:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:LuckyLuke Wargan wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Commando wise?
I'm as happy as a duck in water :D
Logi wise?
I'm flipping pi$$ed!!!!! >:( Just checked your signature link, you guys till run the "commando squadron" channel? As a commando myself I 'd love to add that channel to my list... Though my Swarms I use with it just got hit by the nerf hammer... hopefully it will be buffed again next built. Yup, I'm always in the channel and so are several others :) The more the merrier, hope to see you there o7
Awesome.
"Cry HavoK!, and let slip the dogs of war!"
-Medical/Intel Logibro and Swarm Commando-
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Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
323
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:44:00 -
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I agree, basically the amarrian assault suit is crap now:
Now heat build-up will even further nerf the laser rifle, and the SCR just went from ok to utter crap.
Also the RoF thing is just stupid. Most weapons as they are now only benefit turbo controllers, and with this change they will only benefit turbo controllers.
to max out DPS with the 10% RoF buff:
CR 7.3333 trigger pulss per second (only a select few can spam this fast)
SCR 12.95 trigger pulls per second (not possible without a turbo controller)
TAR ~ 7.33 trigger pulls per second
This RoF increase serves only to benefit fully automatic weapons and turbo controller users.
While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
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LEHON Xeon
Pradox XVI
21
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:48:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:No logis?
If there will be no logis after the changes, there were no logis before the changes as they were just logisalts, which was 50-70% of the entire population of dust.
Also scouts haven't seen love since Chrom, and a little just recently with the removal of auto detection by installation and objectives, we are used to crying, this isn't new.
Good on the Commando/Sentinels though, was about time.
There, I'll give you your 1000th like Yes, logis will only further diminish and people will have to become even more self-sufficient minded.
If Walking Is So Good For You, Then Why Does My Mailman Look Like Jabba The Hut?
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Aero Yassavi
Yassavi House
4413
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:48:00 -
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Yay, more people for the Commando Squadron channel!
Also to all those who think the Commando shield recharge rate of 10 hp/s is acceptable, this is for you.
CCP said that they are also changing some of the base stats and slot layouts of some suits, so hopefully that bares well for the Commando shield regen. In the meantime, I'd recommend all my commando buddies out there to use shield energizers. Yes it takes away some of your total shield, but if your recharge rate is at 10 you'll never have that extra shield recharged anyways. It's a good way to provide some quick extra shield regen. If you stack two on the proto Commando you can even get in the 25-30 range.
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
No, it's Super Amarr!
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
3780
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:58:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:CCP said that they are also changing some of the base stats and slot layouts of some suits
So my Logi suit will suck even more if they change it? 
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6310
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:59:00 -
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Before you judge, please read the following. This is very important.
By your fellow CPM member.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134344&find=unread
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
3780
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Posted - 2014.01.08 04:01:00 -
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The fact that some of these ideas would even be considered is reason enough for me to get pissed off.
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