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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.07 23:13:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:CCP, when one of your main assault weapons in a single shot weapon (the scrambler rifle), explain to me why making the assault bonus a ROF bonus is a good idea?
They got tired of ****ing with the Gal assaults (5% shield recharge buff, pfft!). Besides the ScR could do with a nerf anyway, not that this is a real nerf though, there are plenty of people out there right now, not using the Amarr assault suit and still utterly destroying people with the ScR.
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Son-Of A-Gun
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Posted - 2014.01.07 23:31:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:CCP, when one of your main assault weapons in a single shot weapon (the scrambler rifle), explain to me why making the assault bonus a ROF bonus is a good idea? They got tired of ****ing with the Gal assaults (5% shield recharge buff, pfft!). Besides the ScR could do with a nerf anyway, not that this is a real nerf though, there are plenty of people out there right now, not using the Amarr assault suit and still utterly destroying people with the ScR. No, it does not need a nerf, especially since the automatic rifles (including the arguably OP rail rifle) is now getting a 10% DPS buff through the assault's rate of fire bonus. There are tons of other bonuses they could have gone with for the general assault bonus then the ROF thing. This is just as bad as the shield recharge bonus in that it won't help many players; previously the Gallente assaults are getting screwed, now its certain weapon users getting screwed.
The auto rifles all have compairable TTK. The only one out of whack is the ScR. Here take a look at this thread, where I mathematically break it down in detail, and then come to the realization that the ScR does indeed need a nerf.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134275&find=unread
Also the vanilla CR will be affected by the suit bonus. Higher RoF means shorter burst time, which in turn means shorter burst intervals.
As well there is a fully-auto version of the ScR.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.08 00:01:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:CCP, when one of your main assault weapons in a single shot weapon (the scrambler rifle), explain to me why making the assault bonus a ROF bonus is a good idea? They got tired of ****ing with the Gal assaults (5% shield recharge buff, pfft!). Besides the ScR could do with a nerf anyway, not that this is a real nerf though, there are plenty of people out there right now, not using the Amarr assault suit and still utterly destroying people with the ScR. No, it does not need a nerf, especially since the automatic rifles (including the arguably OP rail rifle) is now getting a 10% DPS buff through the assault's rate of fire bonus. There are tons of other bonuses they could have gone with for the general assault bonus then the ROF thing. This is just as bad as the shield recharge bonus in that it won't help many players; previously the Gallente assaults are getting screwed, now its certain weapon users getting screwed. The auto rifles all have compairable TTK the only one out of whack is the ScR. Here take a loil at this thread, where I mathematically break it down in detail, and then come to the realization that the ScR does indeed need a nerf. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134275&find=unreadAlso the vanilla CR will be affected by the suit bonus higher RoF means sorter burst time, which in turn means shorter burst intervals. As well there is a fully-auto version of the ScR. Another rifle could kill you in the time it takes to fully charge a SCR. If you want the SCR to have TTK the same as all other rifles, then get rid of overheat as well and make the SCR the same as all other rifles in that respect as well. You can't look at the strengths without looking at the weaknesses.
Well, the simple answer is to increase the scrambler rifle's "time to overheat" (overall reduction to heat build up) when increasing it's TTK necessary to bring it in line with the other weapons. This should be done proportionately of course, as to either retain its current damage output before overheat or increase it inorder to bring it more in line with the other weapon's damage per clip. Heat build up can be mitigated by simply not rapid spamming the trigger all the time, so I think that the ScR should still have less rounds before overhear than other rifles have per clip.
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"Well, at least he didn't do that walking against the wind sh!t. I hate that."
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