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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:13:00 -
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When can we expect to see DUST514 on Playstation NOW? What do you think about Playstation NOW and game streaming?
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:16:00 -
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LOL, seeking confirmation for unreleased launch on unreleased platform.
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:23:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:LOL, seeking confirmation for unreleased launch on unreleased platform.
You didn't read the article. It releases this month. Which platform is unreleased? Honestly, I'm just trying to get some publicity cuz I have been saying this a long time.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:34:00 -
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It releases this summer: http://www.geek.com/games/gaikai-streaming-becomes-playstation-now-available-this-summer-1581518/
And it will take CCP months to get it ready to run on PlayStation Now, if it's even possible, if they decide that it's worth their development effort at this time.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:38:00 -
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Yes it launches in US only this summer with beta starting later this month. Europe will not get it until later, likely not until 2015 I would guess, maybe late 2014 if lucky.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:46:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Yes it launches in US only this summer with beta starting later this month. Europe will not get it until later, likely not until 2015 I would guess, maybe late 2014 if lucky.
Ah, that would be another killer, CCP can't release DUST 514 on PlayStation Now until it has worldwide availability.
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:49:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Yes it launches in US only this summer with beta starting later this month. Europe will not get it until later, likely not until 2015 I would guess, maybe late 2014 if lucky. Ah, that would be another killer, CCP can't release DUST 514 on PlayStation Now until it has worldwide availability.
Why not?
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:57:00 -
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Severence, if PSNow offers a drastic performance improvement, let's say, and it's US-only, why would any European consider playing DUST? As it is, there will be complaints from people who don't want to buy a new console. But this is a worldwide game, CCP can't release something like that unless they can do it worldwide.
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.07 20:12:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Severence, if PSNow offers a drastic performance improvement, let's say, and it's US-only, why would any European consider playing DUST? As it is, there will be complaints from people who don't want to buy a new console. But this is a worldwide game, CCP can't release something like that unless they can do it worldwide.
There is plenty evidence against this. There are Japanese only games and US only games, hasn't necessarily destroyed playstation, Nintendo, or Xbox launches. Why not, really? Is there some reason why they can't release on PSNOW unless it has a worldwide audience?
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Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.01.07 21:57:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Severence, if PSNow offers a drastic performance improvement, let's say, and it's US-only, why would any European consider playing DUST? As it is, there will be complaints from people who don't want to buy a new console. But this is a worldwide game, CCP can't release something like that unless they can do it worldwide.
PSNow is a streaming service like Netflix, so there is no performance difference and it doesn't make games exclusive to any one system or Now itself. Putting Dust on Now would not make it stop working for all current PS3s, so even if it is just in the US only, there's no reason for them not to do it since people in other countries could just play the current hardware based version on their PS3s. Theoretically you could even play it on a Vita (and phones/tablets/pcs/etc in the further future).
Sony has also confirmed that multiplayer can work between console and streamed versions of games. I don't see CCP adopting this until it's fairly stable/robust service though, which will probably be a while. |
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.01.07 22:08:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Yes it launches in US only this summer with beta starting later this month. Europe will not get it until later, likely not until 2015 I would guess, maybe late 2014 if lucky.
You guys best beta test that good as well, if PlayStation now ends up crap I'll be scapegoating the US 
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.01.07 22:15:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:There is plenty evidence against this. There are Japanese only games and US only games, hasn't necessarily destroyed playstation, Nintendo, or Xbox launches. Why not, really? Is there some reason why they can't release on PSNOW unless it has a worldwide audience?
That's entirely unrelated. A US-only game affects only the US. A US-only version of a game with international multiplayer affects the entire international group. Especially if there's any imbalance whatsoever.
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
986
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Posted - 2014.01.07 22:34:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Severance Pay wrote:There is plenty evidence against this. There are Japanese only games and US only games, hasn't necessarily destroyed playstation, Nintendo, or Xbox launches. Why not, really? Is there some reason why they can't release on PSNOW unless it has a worldwide audience? That's entirely unrelated. A US-only game affects only the US. A US-only version of a game with international multiplayer affects the entire international group. Especially if there's any imbalance whatsoever.
Then I do not understand. The app doesn't offer any kind of performance enhancement or unique gameplay, and I do not see how that would stop people from buying and playing?
As I said there are examples of games with unique US and EU or JP versions with unique content, and sure people have complained but it doesn't stop them from releasing the games.
I suppose the part that is confusing me is when you say that CCP is worried about people complaining. There is so much evidence to the contrary.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.01.07 23:02:00 -
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Severance, it offers massive performance enhancement. The bottleneck in performance and frame rate is the PlayStation 3. However, the PlayStation Now servers can perform at higher performance than a PlayStation 3, potentially, meaning the customers on PSNow might have a huge tactical advantage.
It would be extremely unfair to release that to only a single region.
I'm excited about the PlayStation Now announcement, but you really need to step back and realize that if this is even possible, it's going to be a long way off for DUST. There's a lot of complications involved in a system like that, it's not something they can just say "okay, go" and launch for DUST 514.
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.07 23:35:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Severance, it offers massive performance enhancement. The bottleneck in performance and frame rate is the PlayStation 3. However, the PlayStation Now servers can perform at higher performance than a PlayStation 3, potentially, meaning the customers on PSNow might have a huge tactical advantage.
It would be extremely unfair to release that to only a single region.
I'm excited about the PlayStation Now announcement, but you really need to step back and realize that if this is even possible, it's going to be a long way off for DUST. There's a lot of complications involved in a system like that, it's not something they can just say "okay, go" and launch for DUST 514.
So you are saying that DUST514 software will run better on PSNOW even though it was coded for PS3 functionality. Also, what it sounds like you are saying is that CCP is intentionally going to let DUST514 run better on PSNOW than on PS3 because of potential uproar over a performance gap.
Thanks for the advice to "step back", but summer is not far away. PSNOW is going into closed beta this month. It's getting tested, and Sony has a better track record for successful advancement than CCP does. Everytime Sony releases something, it is for the advancement of a technology and science. Bluray, Cell processors, OLED, and now cloud gaming. Even if it doesn't work and it fails horribly, it is still a huge leap forward. They aren't afraid to fail, and that is why I love Sony. Damn the critics, and damn the nay sayers.
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Shall be my brother
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.01.08 00:00:00 -
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Severance, the servers hosting PSNow games can exceed the hardware limitations of a PS3. Yes, it could most certainly play better on PSNow than the PS3.
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
986
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Posted - 2014.01.08 14:30:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Severance, the servers hosting PSNow games can exceed the hardware limitations of a PS3. Yes, it could most certainly play better on PSNow than the PS3.
There are also software limitations. For example, we cannot expect to see 64 bit graphics from an 8 bit game mod. With CCP writing this game to run its best on PS3 then the PSNOW version will only run as well PS3.
I didn't see "All Ps3 games will get a remix" for the sales pitch.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.01.08 14:46:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Severance, the servers hosting PSNow games can exceed the hardware limitations of a PS3. Yes, it could most certainly play better on PSNow than the PS3.
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I'm thinking it won't be too big a deal.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.01.08 16:16:00 -
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Lorhak, load times and frame rate would probably be improved by the emulation hardware, but that would be offset by some new input/display lag between you and the emulation hardware. It might be about a wash, performance-wise, but it depends on the optimization of that emulation hardware.
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Galthur
CrimeWave Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.01.08 16:25:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Yes it launches in US only this summer with beta starting later this month. Europe will not get it until later, likely not until 2015 I would guess, maybe late 2014 if lucky. Ah, that would be another killer, CCP can't release DUST 514 on PlayStation Now until it has worldwide availability.
I don't think it is a CCP thing, it's a digital library of PSN thing.
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.08 16:25:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Severance, the servers hosting PSNow games can exceed the hardware limitations of a PS3. Yes, it could most certainly play better on PSNow than the PS3. There are also software limitations. For example, we cannot expect to see 64 bit graphics from an 8 bit game mod. With CCP writing this game to run its best on PS3 then the PSNOW version will only run as well PS3. I didn't see "All Ps3 games will get a remix" for the sales pitch.
It could still get a performance increase - it may run most efficiently on the PS3 but it that doesn't mean that you can't get better performance on a similar but beefier system.
However, I'm not sure how well Dust's frequent updates would mix with PSNow, nor am I convinced that any FPS would work well with a streaming based system - Dat input lag  |
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The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.08 16:27:00 -
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