DUST Search - full respec

Sigberct Amni wrote:

Thang Bausch wrote:

Soraya Xel wrote:

So has mine. But you don't need a respec. You can play the game more, and earn more skill points, and unlock new and additional suits. The right thing, is for CCP to man up, and finally refuse to give in to these silly demands.

That's their 'free' to play business model: keep completely changing what you speced into so you have to infinitely buy boosters to spec into the type of class you want.

This right here is called expectation management, Soraya. Follow along carefully. A player buys aurum and spends aurum on boosters. Those boosters give him SP which is used to purchase skills he finds valuable. CCP comes along and makes those skills less valuable or makes other skills more valuable.

Now that player feels cheated out of his money. You honestly believe he should just HTFU or do you believe he will keep spending anyways? Nope. That's not how this works. CCP tied money to SP and they now have an expectation to keep that SP valuable. They don't have to do anything, but their choice does effect future purchases.

Like mine. I quit spending money after BPO fuckery began. These potential changes aren't exactly making me crack open my wallet any time soon either.


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Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 82	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:32:00 - [1] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: So has mine. But you don't need a respec. You can play the game more, and earn more skill points, and unlock new and additional suits. The right thing, is for CCP to man up, and finally refuse to give in to these silly demands. That's their 'free' to play business model: keep completely changing what you speced into so you have to infinitely buy boosters to spec into the type of class you want. I wanted to play an infiltrator logi and now I have to spend another 2-3 million sp to be able to play that role because they completely changed the purpose of my suit. I have put up with lots of skill tree changes and not demanded a respec, but this has gone too far for me.
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 82	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:47:00 - [2] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Sigberct Amni wrote: 1) Eve doesn't sell boosters to monetize it's SP 2) Eve has attributes that vary skill training time and offers free respecs to that 3) Eve gives far more access to ships per skill than dust's dropsuits per skill 4) Eve has all of it's basic ships in each racial variant in the game right now. 1) All the more reason CCP has to encourage people to get more SP rather than reallocating what they have. Somewhere along the way, we do need people to actually pay for this game. But I've already put 120 (150 if you count the package that came with my ps3 ultra slim) into this game in 6 months. It's a slimmy and unethical business model to make your money off of boosters and then keep drastically changing the skill tree so you have to infinitely buy boosters. It's just down right dishonest and deceptive. If CCP needs to be making $20 a month from me, then charge me $20 a month to play. Only then does the 'keep playing to get more sp' argument make sense. This is the only free to play game I play now because the free to play model is always designed to DECEPTIVELY make waaaaay more money than the game deserves. I have gotten much more enjoyment from games like Fallout New Vegas and Skyrim then this crappy beta game and those games cost me 30 and 40 respectively (both on sale at bestbuy) and are (minus infamous bethesda bugginess) much, much more polished than this game. I would consider paying 9.99 a month to play this game, but no more. Change the business model to a more ethical one and maybe there will be less reason for people to demand respecs.
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 82	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:50:00 - [3] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Thang Bausch wrote: That's their 'free' to play business model: keep completely changing what you speced into so you have to infinitely buy boosters to spec into the type of class you want. I wanted to play an infiltrator logi and now I have to spend another 2-3 million sp to be able to play that role because they completely changed the purpose of my suit. I have put up with lots of skill tree changes and not demanded a respec, but this has gone too far for me. Do you think this is a one time thing? This is an online game, as new suits are added, balance passes are made, these features will shift and change constantly. Get used to it. And you don't need a respec every time. Then they need to change the business model to a monthly subscription. Right now the business model is dependent on them constantly changing the skill tree so everyone has to constantly buy boosters to get where they need to be.
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 82	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:54:00 - [4] - Quote Sigberct Amni wrote: Thang Bausch wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: So has mine. But you don't need a respec. You can play the game more, and earn more skill points, and unlock new and additional suits. The right thing, is for CCP to man up, and finally refuse to give in to these silly demands. That's their 'free' to play business model: keep completely changing what you speced into so you have to infinitely buy boosters to spec into the type of class you want. This right here is called expectation management, Soraya. Follow along carefully. A player buys aurum and spends aurum on boosters. Those boosters give him SP which is used to purchase skills he finds valuable. CCP comes along and makes those skills less valuable or makes other skills more valuable. Now that player feels cheated out of his money. You honestly believe he should just HTFU or do you believe he will keep spending anyways? Nope. That's not how this works. CCP tied money to SP and they now have an expectation to keep that SP valuable. They don't have to do anything, but their choice does effect future purchases. Like mine. I quit spending money after BPO fuckery began. These potential changes aren't exactly making me crack open my wallet any time soon either. Very well said. You can't monetize sp and then try to devalue it with each release.
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 82	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:06:00 - [5] - Quote Let me clarify: I want a respec on my min-logi suit only (and only once they finish overhauling the racial suits). I had speced into the flaylock pistol and the swarm launcher and watched the former nerfed into uselessness (it was admittedly very OP, but the over nerfed it, rather than redesigning it) and the latter nerfed into questionable usefulness and did not demand a respec. Completely overhauling racial suits and in the process completely changing the purpose of my suit is way different than adjusting values on a weapon.