DUST Search - [Request] WP changes

bogeyman m wrote:

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

Kill assist and destruction assist WP scaled based on percentage of damage dealt to the enemy.

War points for mobile CRU spawns.

Bonus war points for killing an enemy hacking or counter-hacking at an objective.

Bonus WP for killing an enemy that has very recently severely damaged a friendly (savior kill).

Get rid of defend order WP farming. Defend orders on other players is just an easy way to get free extra WP, and you don't actually have to defend the player; in practice I've never seen anyone defending the player who has the defend order on them. make defend orders not give extra points to the defend target, but instead give bonus WP for actions to squadmates near the defend target; would incentivize the squad to actually defend the defend target, instead of getting free WP from the target's actions. This should not only apply to players as defend targets, but also for objectives and installations.

WP for damaging vehicles. AV success should not be measured exclusively in vehicle destruction. AV can play a vital role be simply keeping enemy vehicles at bay by damaging the, it needs to be rewarded.

WP for repairing friendly vehicles and installations.

Nanite injectors should give WP based on how much HP is repaired. Right now using a crappy injector means you have more health left to repair with a repair tool, so better injectors are discouraged.

AAAAAALL HAIL THE MIGHTY GLOW CLOUD

Agreed, and I would add:

-50% WP for redline kills and damage (sniping), both to and from, for both infantry and tanks.

-50% WP for damage to yellow turrets, CRUs, supply depots, etc.

Both would help refocus efforts to the spirit of the game.

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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7842	Posted - 2014.01.07 04:10:00 - [1] - Quote Kill assist and destruction assist WP scaled based on percentage of damage dealt to the enemy. War points for mobile CRU spawns. Bonus war points for killing an enemy hacking or counter-hacking at an objective. Bonus WP for killing an enemy that has very recently severely damaged a friendly (savior kill). Get rid of defend order WP farming. Defend orders on other players is just an easy way to get free extra WP, and you don't actually have to defend the player; in practice I've never seen anyone defending the player who has the defend order on them. make defend orders not give extra points to the defend target, but instead give bonus WP for actions to squadmates near the defend target; would incentivize the squad to actually defend the defend target, instead of getting free WP from the target's actions. This should not only apply to players as defend targets, but also for objectives and installations. WP for damaging vehicles. AV success should not be measured exclusively in vehicle destruction. AV can play a vital role be simply keeping enemy vehicles at bay by damaging the, it needs to be rewarded. WP for repairing friendly vehicles and installations. AAAAAALL HAIL THE MIGHTY GLOW CLOUD Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 502	Posted - 2014.01.07 04:27:00 - [2] - Quote I definitely want the scaled WP Based on damage. Hopefully, based on what one of the devs said, WP for vehicle damage will come in the next update or so. As an aside, if all the extra ways to earn WP you bring up come (and they all should), then warbarge strikes ( orbitals?) Will become even more of an issue in pub matches. I've been in matches where an enemy squad earns six of them... An it was obnoxious. But I digress. More ways to earn WP would also help new players. And we all know the are in dire need of help.
Kilo Shells G.L.O.R.Y Public Disorder. 19	Posted - 2014.01.07 05:17:00 - [3] - Quote Nanahives! Include nanohives! 10 WP for a heavy exhausting your hive is awful. While other equipment is inexhaustible and/or yields more WP. Caldari Assault My 2 cents on Grenades
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4399	Posted - 2014.01.07 05:19:00 - [4] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Kill assist and destruction assist WP scaled based on percentage of damage dealt to the enemy. War points for mobile CRU spawns. Bonus war points for killing an enemy hacking or counter-hacking at an objective. Bonus WP for killing an enemy that has very recently severely damaged a friendly (savior kill). Get rid of defend order WP farming. Defend orders on other players is just an easy way to get free extra WP, and you don't actually have to defend the player; in practice I've never seen anyone defending the player who has the defend order on them. make defend orders not give extra points to the defend target, but instead give bonus WP for actions to squadmates near the defend target; would incentivize the squad to actually defend the defend target, instead of getting free WP from the target's actions. This should not only apply to players as defend targets, but also for objectives and installations. WP for damaging vehicles. AV success should not be measured exclusively in vehicle destruction. AV can play a vital role be simply keeping enemy vehicles at bay by damaging the, it needs to be rewarded. WP for repairing friendly vehicles and installations. AAAAAALL HAIL THE MIGHTY GLOW CLOUD Yes to all of these. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7844	Posted - 2014.01.07 13:12:00 - [5] - Quote Anyone else want? Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Snagman 313 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 240	Posted - 2014.01.07 13:31:00 - [6] - Quote Yep +1 Closed Beta AV veteran I drink because I play Dust
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7844	Posted - 2014.01.07 15:05:00 - [7] - Quote "on how long you spend repairing, and using better repair ones lead to less WP since the HP goes up faster, and less time is spent repairing. Also right now using a crappy injector means you have more health left to repair with a repair tool, so better injectors are discouraged." Added this Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7969	Posted - 2014.01.10 14:36:00 - [8] - Quote I want these WP changes Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7984	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:18:00 - [9] - Quote I want Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1881	Posted - 2014.01.10 22:35:00 - [10] - Quote Um, repair tools do NOT give you wp for time spent repairing...it is definitely for the amount repaired. Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9OUEQFfao0&feature=youtube_gdata_player Better repair tools give you wp faster because they are repairing faster. No changes needed. Injectors need to give a bigger bonus for more hp repaired though. As for the defend order, we just need to make it so that the incentives go to the people defending the player, not the player with the order. Also, things like attack orders need to give something like a 20% bonus to actually make them worthwhile. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7986	Posted - 2014.01.10 22:40:00 - [11] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Um, repair tools do NOT give you wp for time spent repairing...it is definitely for the amount repaired. Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9OUEQFfao0&feature=youtube_gdata_player Better repair tools give you wp faster because they are repairing faster. No changes needed. Injectors need to give a bigger bonus for more hp repaired though. As for the defend order, we just need to make it so that the incentives go to the people defending the player, not the player with the order. Also, things like attack orders need to give something like a 20% bonus to actually make them worthwhile. Thanks for the rep tool info Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Dustbunny Durrr ReD or DeaD 32	Posted - 2014.01.10 22:49:00 - [12] - Quote Edit: Double post- please delete.
Dustbunny Durrr ReD or DeaD 32	Posted - 2014.01.10 22:51:00 - [13] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Kill assist and destruction assist WP scaled based on percentage of damage dealt to the enemy. This might be a little hard to implement, but sure, +1 KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: War points for mobile CRU spawns. yes +1 KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Bonus war points for killing an enemy hacking or counter-hacking at an objective. yes yes yes! KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Bonus WP for killing an enemy that has very recently severely damaged a friendly (savior kill). With low TTK this is unlikely to happen, and hard to enforce. KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Get rid of defend order WP farming. Defend orders on other players is just an easy way to get free extra WP, and you don't actually have to defend the player; in practice I've never seen anyone defending the player who has the defend order on them. make defend orders not give extra points to the defend target, but instead give bonus WP for actions to squadmates near the defend target; would incentivize the squad to actually defend the defend target, instead of getting free WP from the target's actions. This should not only apply to players as defend targets, but also for objectives and installations. WP for damaging vehicles. AV success should not be measured exclusively in vehicle destruction. AV can play a vital role be simply keeping enemy vehicles at bay by damaging the, it needs to be rewarded. WP for repairing friendly vehicles and installations. Meh, to all of these. As for: Repair tools and nanite injectors should give WP based on how much HP is repaired. Right now repair tool points are based on how long you spend repairing, and using better repair ones lead to less WP since the HP goes up faster, and less time is spent repairing. Also right now using a crappy injector means you have more health left to repair with a repair tool, so better injectors are discouraged. Yes! +1
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1488	Posted - 2014.01.10 22:55:00 - [14] - Quote Kilo Shells wrote: Nanahives! Include nanohives! 10 WP for a heavy exhausting your hive is awful. While other equipment is inexhaustible and/or yields more WP. InB4 other heavies exhaust your hives.
Draco Cerberus BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 675	Posted - 2014.01.11 01:16:00 - [15] - Quote The Defend order does actually have a use atm. It can keep a squad following the designated point man who is actually going where the squad is needed. It is functioning exactly as intended. LogiGod earns his pips
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8009	Posted - 2014.01.13 07:04:00 - [16] - Quote Draco Cerberus wrote: The Defend order does actually have a use atm. It can keep a squad following the designated point man who is actually going where the squad is needed. It is functioning exactly as intended. Edit: Currently it functions thusly: X person has defend order, squad lead gains wp for their actions. Actions near the defend order are bonused for more individual wp. All actions by the defend target are bonused. The one with the defender order on then gets extra points without any justification, which then gives the squad leader points; the members of the squad don't have to be anywhere near the player with the defend order on them for this to be a successful way of generating WPs. Because of how efficient the method is of generating WPs, no one ever places attack or capture orders, or defend orders on objectives. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
bogeyman m Learning Coalition College 4	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:41:00 - [17] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Kill assist and destruction assist WP scaled based on percentage of damage dealt to the enemy. War points for mobile CRU spawns. Bonus war points for killing an enemy hacking or counter-hacking at an objective. Bonus WP for killing an enemy that has very recently severely damaged a friendly (savior kill). Get rid of defend order WP farming. Defend orders on other players is just an easy way to get free extra WP, and you don't actually have to defend the player; in practice I've never seen anyone defending the player who has the defend order on them. make defend orders not give extra points to the defend target, but instead give bonus WP for actions to squadmates near the defend target; would incentivize the squad to actually defend the defend target, instead of getting free WP from the target's actions. This should not only apply to players as defend targets, but also for objectives and installations. WP for damaging vehicles. AV success should not be measured exclusively in vehicle destruction. AV can play a vital role be simply keeping enemy vehicles at bay by damaging the, it needs to be rewarded. WP for repairing friendly vehicles and installations. Nanite injectors should give WP based on how much HP is repaired. Right now using a crappy injector means you have more health left to repair with a repair tool, so better injectors are discouraged. AAAAAALL HAIL THE MIGHTY GLOW CLOUD Agreed, and I would add: -50% WP for redline kills and damage (sniping), both to and from, for both infantry and tanks. -50% WP for damage to yellow turrets, CRUs, supply depots, etc. Both would help refocus efforts to the spirit of the game.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8128	Posted - 2014.01.17 16:36:00 - [18] - Quote bogeyman m wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Kill assist and destruction assist WP scaled based on percentage of damage dealt to the enemy. War points for mobile CRU spawns. Bonus war points for killing an enemy hacking or counter-hacking at an objective. Bonus WP for killing an enemy that has very recently severely damaged a friendly (savior kill). Get rid of defend order WP farming. Defend orders on other players is just an easy way to get free extra WP, and you don't actually have to defend the player; in practice I've never seen anyone defending the player who has the defend order on them. make defend orders not give extra points to the defend target, but instead give bonus WP for actions to squadmates near the defend target; would incentivize the squad to actually defend the defend target, instead of getting free WP from the target's actions. This should not only apply to players as defend targets, but also for objectives and installations. WP for damaging vehicles. AV success should not be measured exclusively in vehicle destruction. AV can play a vital role be simply keeping enemy vehicles at bay by damaging the, it needs to be rewarded. WP for repairing friendly vehicles and installations. Nanite injectors should give WP based on how much HP is repaired. Right now using a crappy injector means you have more health left to repair with a repair tool, so better injectors are discouraged. AAAAAALL HAIL THE MIGHTY GLOW CLOUD Agreed, and I would add: -50% WP for redline kills and damage (sniping), both to and from, for both infantry and tanks. -50% WP for damage to yellow turrets, CRUs, supply depots, etc. Both would help refocus efforts to the spirit of the game. I would be fine with this. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9661	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:39:00 - [19] - Quote pzew pzew Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Ku Shala Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 889	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:14:00 - [20] - Quote wp based on damage to vehicles has been metioned by ccp I will try to find the link... *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä* The States Necromancer Scan Attempt Prevented

Mikey The Bandaid D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 187	Posted - 2014.02.28 19:53:00 - [21] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Um, repair tools do NOT give you wp for time spent repairing...it is definitely for the amount repaired. Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9OUEQFfao0&feature=youtube_gdata_player Better repair tools give you wp faster because they are repairing faster. No changes needed. Injectors need to give a bigger bonus for more hp repaired though. As for the defend order, we just need to make it so that the incentives go to the people defending the player, not the player with the order. Also, things like attack orders need to give something like a 20% bonus to actually make them worthwhile. Took the words right off my phone's keyboard...so true. One of the biggest myths of the repper.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 820	Posted - 2014.02.28 20:08:00 - [22] - Quote Some good suggestions here, but I don't see your issue with defend order..... I place the defend order on squad members who actually need support And then my squad gets bonus WP for helping them out so they earn it As for injectors... God dammit something needs changing A few days ago a squad member died, with reds closing in on us I created an opportunity to make revive with my Proto needle .... But before I got there, Mr.Starter fit runs in gets 60wp and himself/squad member killed Had he held off, chances are all 3 of us would have cleared out the red-dots but He couldn't resist those EZ WP 40 WP - MLT/STD 50 WP - Adv 60 WP - Pro If this point system was used it still makes revives valuable to lower tiers And provides a bonus to using better injectors .... Plasma Cannon performs its suppresion/area denial role perfectly Pity dust players only perform one role - slaying
bogeyman m Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 128	Posted - 2014.03.02 06:02:00 - [23] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Kill assist and destruction assist WP scaled based on percentage of damage dealt to the enemy. War points for mobile CRU spawns. Bonus war points for killing an enemy hacking or counter-hacking at an objective. Bonus WP for killing an enemy that has very recently severely damaged a friendly (savior kill). Get rid of defend order WP farming. Defend orders on other players is just an easy way to get free extra WP, and you don't actually have to defend the player; in practice I've never seen anyone defending the player who has the defend order on them. make defend orders not give extra points to the defend target, but instead give bonus WP for actions to squadmates near the defend target; would incentivize the squad to actually defend the defend target, instead of getting free WP from the target's actions. This should not only apply to players as defend targets, but also for objectives and installations. WP for damaging vehicles. AV success should not be measured exclusively in vehicle destruction. AV can play a vital role be simply keeping enemy vehicles at bay by damaging the, it needs to be rewarded. WP for repairing friendly vehicles and installations. Nanite injectors should give WP based on how much HP is repaired. Right now using a crappy injector means you have more health left to repair with a repair tool, so better injectors are discouraged. AAAAAALL HAIL THE MIGHTY GLOW CLOUD +1 Want.


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