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Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2014.01.06 17:43:00 -
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should have been done from get go. knew they are trying now, but certain missteps (1.7 among others) have made it plain obvious that FPS is hard for them. Probably from not understanding at first what makes a FPS a well... FPS.
What your playing from closed beta, till now is NOT a RTS. It's FPS. Who unfortunately has yet to really live up to that.
After that, then introduce the link. But it from what I got years ago, was FPS players being hired by eve mmo players to take care of **** and maybe warm some beds. ladies?  |
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Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2014.01.06 17:53:00 -
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lordjanuz wrote:If its only FPS you are looking for this should not be the game, I am in for it as they sold it, every bullit counts and you could take down empires.
Today there is not even a good backstory way we are playing this game, we need a lot more MMO in the game.
only empires your take down is on eve-side. I jumped into this cause of the chance to bag a good trophy. "destroy a ship in another game" That punch to the shoulder at the eve player to say "hey bud. I blew your ship for being a nerd"
And that in the end is why we won't (at least in the next couple years, nor do I really see it happening) blow up any eve ships. Market will probably come first. |
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Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2014.01.06 20:33:00 -
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Who will anyone play a crappy FPS game for a eve link? You can have the story and market and guess how it will be judged? the way it plays. THIS IS A FPS game. It should have been treated and reviewed as that from the get go. Then by now we would have been talking about eve-link or already on it, rather then still trying to balance this game.
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Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2014.01.06 20:38:00 -
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Eve players are patting on themselves to much, for a niche game among it's genre and non existent on the minds of FPS players. "we will bring thousands of fps players to eve" I laughed when he said that. not likely. Dust is niche. but it still is a fps. You can have everything else but without it being a great FPS, the only ones left playing will be eve players. which is kinda what we seeing now with game not holding zero retention. |
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Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2014.01.06 20:49:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Surt gods end wrote:Eve players are patting on themselves to much, for a niche game among it's genre and non existent on the minds of FPS players. "we will bring thousands of fps players to eve" I laughed when he said that. not likely. Dust is niche. but it still is a fps. You can have everything else but without it being a great FPS, the only ones left playing will be eve players. which is kinda what we seeing now with game not holding zero retention. Most mainstream FPS players won't stick with a game more than a couple months anyways, so why would they stick with a game that requires a far longer commitment to reap significant reward? It's an MMOFPS, it needs to appeal to people who want more than just a random twitch shooter.
Don't tell resistance, Killzone, socom, arma, vegas players that. the casual players will always jump game to game. that's any game. but FPS players will stay a lot longer then a few months. few months is too short to just keep a clan in game for.
many stay till the next expansion comes out (kz3 -->kz4) or resistance1 to resistance 2, then Resistance 3. and what great is that you will see the same clans in all three!  |
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Posted - 2014.01.06 20:58:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:Severance Pay wrote:Time to fire Hilmar. This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
FPS gamers must be consistently appeased with a new game every 3-6 months. I am not saying new content, I mean these guys need a new Modern Warfare or Battlefield every season. They will play the newest thing for a few months and then move on to the newest game. Hilmar is saying this is the fanbase they want to build on with DUST. He wants to build on a fanbase of players that typically burn themselves out on the newest game then jump onto a new one months later. DUST will die. These sorts of threads and the OP show how completely out of touch the Dust playerbase and developers are with what the mainstream FPS crowd actually want. 1) FPS gamers do NOT need to be appeased, people still play Counterstrike, Quake and Unreal, the only reason they shift from CoD X to CoD X+1 is that Infinity Ward release a new game and they move to track the rest of the player base because large playerbase = better matches. If they had stopped at the first CoD Modern Warfare and never made another game, everyone would still be playing that. 2) FPS gamers insist on balance and fairness. 100% of all competitive advantage comes from gunskills, not time. Quasi-MMO skill points and ISK and grinding for tiered combat power are an immediate turnoff to most of the FPS market. 3) Map design is equal in importance to weapon and vehicle design. Dust maps have no FPS principles imbedded in them. I could go on ...
PREACH IT SHION!! PREACH FOR THE FPS PLAYERS! +1
*I can't stop clapping!!*
I was a bit insulted by the FPS are fickle. many fps clans can date back from beginning of series. |
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Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2014.01.06 22:16:00 -
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At lass with all the issues.. Clan battles (corp battles. yeah yeah) will always be on the back burner. It also won't come out if there is a chance that it will compete with PC. And for obvious reasons end up being more popular. So a simple FPS mechanic won't be introduced anytime soon.
All the betting.... all the prestige... All the ladies willing to role play on ps eye after words... not until any time soon. |
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