AV stands for "Anti-vehicle". A dedicated Anti-vehicle player sacrifices his anti-infantry capacity for the ability to destroy vehicles. His fit is ONLY useful against vehicles, and by definition should be effective ONLY against vehicles. If another asset provies you with the ability to destroy vehicles AND infantry, and with greater effectiveness (and similar cost) than a dedicated anti-vehicle infantry unit then naturally you will gravitate to that asset, especially if your anti-vehicle capacity is ineffective, as is currently the case. This is the creation of a zero-sum game and this is what is occuring now.

I've translated this analogy to make it dropsuit-centric so people can grasp how serious this issue is here:
You have a heavy suit, that can kill other heavies AND all other types of dropsuit - it can be countered by a light suit, lets call it the "anti-heavy" light suit. Now the "anti-heavy" light suit is not really effective on its own against the Heavy suit, even though that IS it's intended role, BUT it can also be killed by every other suit that exists, and it's not at all effective against other suits.
To take down a heavy suit you need two or more of these "anti-heavy" light suits to work in co-ordinated precision, timing their shots, taking cover, reloading asymetrically to keep the pressure up all the while avoiding the fire of the heavy suit AND other suits (again, from which they cannot defend themselves effectively). After doing this for a while, the players running "anti-heavy" light suits figured out that they could run a Heavy suit, which is more effective at killing other heavy suits than the "anti-heavy" suit AND they could engage all the other types of suits, without even resorting to teamwork - it's from here on out that everyone in the community came to the forums to complain about "Heavy suit spam" - since in every match it was not uncommon to see up to 7 heavy suits per side, completely dominating the map and making all other suits irrelevant.

This is a good post and yes tanks as they stand now are a problem which could be solved many ways, even a quick hot fix to limit 2 tanks on a field at a time until they get it fixed (oh my did I say that?)

Any way I have been frustrated on the number of tanks on the field and the durability of them and have been trying to find ways to counter them. I tried jihad jeeps with all their problems, they are ok, but did not work out all that good for me after the first few days since tankers know about them and infantry can blow you up with well placed shots. So I looked at a different option that I now enjoy using.

Some of you tankers may recognize me as the guy who blew you up. Proxi mines are worthless, but RE are wonderful when combined with flux. I will run up to a tank put 5+ RE's on him, toss him some flux, oops their goes his shields, he starts to run-push button and good buy. This is alot of fun even though you die 3 out of 4 times trying to get to the tank, but with practice it works great and is cheap. I can see a lot of shotgunners with their skill already learned being good at this.

Now this does not kill all tanks, but the majority of them will be killed (I have only had 3 get away in the last 2.5 weeks and I am sure they messed their pants and have killed maybe 20 sometimes 2 or 3 in a match). If just 2 guys were to employ this against tanks then we could cause the tanks to be less god like and go back to tactics.

Flaws with this are simple if 2 or 3 tanks are running in a pack or infantry are supporting tanks you get noticed and die VERY quickly also you need a spawn point close by to the tank so you are not running all over the map looking for a tank. I usually get killed by a tank in my infantry fit and only then go looking for them with my RE+flux fit.

I know this is not a fix to tanks, but it may help infantry not feel so neutered.

I use a similar tactic but I use AV nades, I am not sure how flux work on RE's in FW ^^ and AV nades explode on impact they are easier to use.

Normally three RE's are enough when attached to the back of a HAV, now throw one or two packed AV nades and detonate the RE's (be carefull in FW your AV nade will make you RE's detonate as well) with a bit of practice you can do this quickly enough so the Pilot has no chance on activating hardeners..

Great debating here, I just wanted to pop in another of my 2 cents. Bear in mind we are only currently dealing with MLT and STD hulls for vehicles, while the rest of the vehicles are reworked. Some of us were here during the tyranny of the sagaris and Surya, and the comedy of the vayu and fashion bears mention. Imagine current AV vs stronger versions of any vehicles....

I used to tank....now I don't because of no skill scrubs spamming tanks......weird world huh?