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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.01.05 09:50:00 -
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xSynnx x wrote:Joel II X wrote:I've already done it on other threads. Getting sick of posting, so I'll keep it short:
-Give all races their own militia rifle. Caldari: Rail; Minmatar: Combat; Amarr: Scrambler; Gallente Plasma Rifle
-Remove side arm from all medic suits and put second equipment for repper so they can do actual medic stuff.
-Give all suits at least one rep module on their suits to go easy on the new guys a little bit.
-Caldari have shield extenders, Minmatar have rechargers, Amarr have armor reps, and Gallente have plates.
-Snipers should be reworked (as in the Rifles; more damage)
-Anti-armor should be damage based, so more light damage mods on all suits.
-Assault are fine imo, just need to replace a few mods with changes I've given above (like reppers. I know the Amarr don't have them)
I know I had more on this, but I forgot what I saida few months ago.
Maybe have a starter scout and heavy?
Maybe change sniper to a light frame and anti-armor to a heavy with Forge? This again is off topic. Simple instructions. Design a starter suit using militia gear that we currently have now on a militia medium suit. No one asked for your opinion on how starters should be redone. Sorry to be so blunt, but the request was really rather simple.
You're actually wrong. IWS actually asked for medium suits, all militia gear, that's true. But... Nowhere does he say no new equipment should be included.
I think t's safe to say that it is almost universal opinion that starter fits should have their own racial equipment.
PRO tanker and proud.
Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD)
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1635
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Posted - 2014.01.05 09:55:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:As topic says.
Restricted to Militia medium frames with Militia modules
Attack role in mind. Support role in mind
Go! So by support, are you talking about more than one equipment slot?
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
747
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Posted - 2014.01.05 09:59:00 -
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Right now the only all MLT fit worth using is this-
MLT Gallente medium MLT AR MLT nades 3x MLT plates(with only 3 slots its not worth putting a repper on) MLT nanohive MLT SMG
w/ 0 sp invested its like 465 armor 120 shields, while the only MLT weapons capable of killing are shotguns,ARs,SMG, and grenades. Even the MLT AR outperforms shotguns though, and you can't expect new players to use a shotgun all that well, considering the scanners abundance.
That's "MR." Pothead to you.
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Bunny Demon
Scions of Athra
55
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Posted - 2014.01.05 09:59:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Add militia racial rifles instead of just militia assault rifles (like Amarr get militia scrambler rifles, seriously other rifles need militia variants, not fair only the AR does).
Add repair tool to medic fitting. Militia nanite injectors are a liability.
Add a medium fitting like the frontline, but with a militia mass driver (we need militia mas driver).
One fitting must have militia nanohives; could be the mass driver fit, the anti-armor, or the the frontline fit.
I'm tempted to say Gallente and Minmatar should get plasma cannon as their starter AV fit while Caldari and Amarr use swarm launchers (until all races have a light AV weapon), but the weapon sucks right now. Hopefully in the future.
Make the sniper fit a light frame.
Add a shotgun light frame with militia shotgun and militia kinetic catalyzer, and militia profile dampener if can be fitted.
Add a militia heavy with militia forge gun.
Add a militia heavy with a militia HMG (seriously, every weapon needs a militia variant).
All frame sizes must be represented. I agree most things should have a militia variant but have this many starter fits would really discourage new players from crafting their own fits as they'll have infinite amounts of all the essentials so they can basically use those until they have enough sp to get adv and they won't fully understand what makes a good fit
Amarr logi ftw :D
(Also...ScR is pretty good)
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Pete B
Blood Unit 13 Zero-Day
68
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Posted - 2014.01.05 10:04:00 -
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When a new guy starts they get the 500K ISK, along with a Heavy, Light and Medium militia BPO suit of their faction, along with some militia BPOs of all sorts. So they learn how to create classes and whatnot. Once they reach 1 Mill ISK and the tutorial has shown them how to create a fitting and buying stuff all the BPOs are taken off them. If they reach 50K ISK they get a militia medium and militia weapon BPO, nothing else. Once they get 500K ISK the BPO's are taken back off them.
This forces people to buy from the market using aurum or ISK. |
SHANN da MAN
D3LTA FORC3
149
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Posted - 2014.01.05 17:22:00 -
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Most of the suggestions in this thread would NOT fit within the CPU/PG requirements of a MLT Suit for a Starter Character with NO SKILLS that Boost CPU/PG. (as the term Starter Fit implies...)
When designing a Starter Fit everyone should take each Race's Basic MLT Suit Slot Layout and CPU/PG into consideration and Fit it out within these limitations.
nothing to see here ... move along
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.01.05 17:24:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:As topic says.
Restricted to Militia medium frames with Militia modules
Attack role in mind. Support role in mind
Go! Why do starter fits have to be medium suits? Starter fits should include all frame sizes.
They are the only ones with good parity at the moment. The other two should wait until the rest of the guns and suits are out.
And yes please be considerate of CPU/PG needs no need to annotate BPO status, they're all yellow 'defaulted'
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Kahn Zo
Furyan Alpha
181
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Posted - 2014.01.05 17:39:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:BYO option. Give players a limited list of MLT BPOs to choose from and get them accustomed to building fittings right from the start. ^ this. While newberries are still in academy, a pure academic academy zone (no other vet, proto, etc allowed), the noob gets to build fits with confidence while strengthens skills, SP, ISK, etc. Once a set level has achieved, then the noob is kicked out to the world....
[quote=mollerz] No no no no. I can't just fit willy nilly on my suit.[/quote]
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2014.01.05 18:24:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote: They are the only ones with good parity at the moment. The other two should wait until the rest of the guns and suits are out.
And yes please be considerate of CPU/PG needs no need to annotate BPO status, they're all yellow 'defaulted'
I really hope people will actually fullfill the request instead of dancing around the topic. I'm not good enough to do it, but this is an important step. I imagine it might lead to other similar requests, if the results are good. |
knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
792
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:06:00 -
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Quote:MINMATAR generally 2 of each kind
medium frames
frontline 1 militia combat rifle 1 militia flaylock pistol
2 militia shield extenders 1 militia shield recharger
1 militia locus grenade 1 Nanohives
medic 1 militia combat rifle 1militia locus grenade
1 militia repair tool 1 nanite injector
1 militia shield extender 1 militia shield recharger 1 militia precision enhancer
light frames
sniper
1 militia precision rifle 1 militia SMG 1militia locus grenade
1 militia profile dampener 1 militia cardiac regulator
covert ops 1 militia shotgun 1 militia pistol 1 militia locus grenade
1 kinetic catalyzer 1 profile dampener/cardiac regulator
Heavy
Anti-Infantry 1 militia HMG 1 militia SMG 1 militia locus grenade
im guessing 1 low and high so... 1 melee mod 1 armor mod
anti-vehicle 1 SMG 1 (whatever light av or heavy av they should have)
1 militia heavy/light dmg mod 1 militia cardiac regulator
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Protocake JR wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:As topic says.
Restricted to Militia medium frames with Militia modules
Attack role in mind. Support role in mind
Go! Why do starter fits have to be medium suits? Starter fits should include all frame sizes. They are the only ones with good parity at the moment. The other two should wait until the rest of the guns and suits are out. And yes please be considerate of CPU/PG needs no need to annotate BPO status, they're all yellow 'defaulted'
im pretty sure these would fit the pg/cpu needs they have now even if they all bpo's it wouldn't matter to much because most people would only use them for when they are low on isk
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