Hmmm i cant find any specifics on the that study. I read it and the links within it. Im not sure where your pulling out stuff like this. I dont see anywhere that it says input delay was a problem. A study like this i would assume was done in a controlled settings, probably LAN'ed.

The real issue isnt how easy or hard each of the input devices is, its how accurate the mouse is over a thumbstick. We have better fine motor skills with our entire hand/wrist then we do in our thumbs.

I dare you to try this, and dont forget to plug in your favorite controller and compare your results to thumbstick vs mouse.

then come back and tell me a mouse doesnt have an advantage

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The fact that this game had no aim assist while nearly every other console game does is part of what was alienating career console players from this game.

The fact that this game had no aim assist while nearly every other console game does is part of what was alienating career console players from this game.

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I didn't read anyone here saying it doesn't have an advantage but as I can tell it must have a huge advantage against your scrub self why else would you be scared to go up against a kb/m player that isn't nerfed to death currently ? I'm pretty bad and didn't mind using a controller in chromosome when mouse was raw input but I like the mouse better so I switched and so can anyone else if they claim its instant win...

Not to mention I have followed every mouse thread I can find and I would take the word of people like Bolsh lee and bethhy and himiko over some random and I believe all those guys currently use a controller and even when defending the m/kb they don't knock the controller or your instant win aim assist so what's your problem?

I'm sorry, where exactly did i say im a DS3 fanboi? You must have mistaken my stating a fact that a mouse is more accurate then a DS3 thumbstick. Very mature to immediately begin calling names though.

And what "word" exactly are you dismissing of mine? I dont believe i was conveying an opinion. If you choose to believe someones interpretation of a study vs some facts, thats fine.

Also, i never "attacked" an input device. Just stating facts.

except ds3 has autoaim now....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFqlnXZU6bw
what more do you scrubs want?

Yeah and you want god mode for KBM

If you can't c that KBM always outperform controller you are nothing more than a bitter try hard that can't grasp that controller can kill you or be competitive.

And you are but hurt that the fact that you who did go and pay real money to get your KBM don't get a advantage over the
out-of-the-box-controller-scrubs.

Me I just state

Remove AA and KBM from the game and more ppl would join even if we loose some buthurt KBM tryhards in the process.

Isn't raw input still impossible on the PS3 because the system itself doesn't accept it?

Yeah and you want god mode for KBM

If you can't c that KBM always outperform controller you are nothing more than a bitter try hard that can't grasp that controller can kill you or be competitive.

And you are but hurt that the fact that you who did go and pay real money to get your KBM don't get a advantage over the
out-of-the-box-controller-scrubs.

Me I just state

Remove AA and KBM from the game and more ppl would join even if we loose some buthurt KBM tryhards in the process.

Yeah and you want god mode for KBM

If you can't c that KBM always outperform controller you are nothing more than a bitter try hard that can't grasp that controller can kill you or be competitive.

And you are but hurt that the fact that you who did go and pay real money to get your KBM don't get a advantage over the
out-of-the-box-controller-scrubs.

Me I just state

Remove AA and KBM from the game and more ppl would join even if we loose some buthurt KBM tryhards in the process.

In Chromosome protoman and others owned with ds3's without autoaim over kbm. In a build where mouse was considered better.

Nice ad hominem argument there.

Anecdotally, I've heard from people who went from DS3 to KB/M that their KDR jumped 300%.

That said, we can all argue this (which is more accurate and has an advantage) until you are blue in the face, all these arguments will mean nothing to CCP as they can make their decision based on empirical data.

I'm sure they have consulted their stats to know who is more accurate (DS3 vs KB/M) and have acted in consequence. Let them monitor the game and continue to try and balance it.

Doesn't anyone remember jump sniping in CS? Glad we don't have that in Dust.

So someone plugged in a Keyboard and mouse NOW? and their KDR jumped 300%?

And that to no one else sounds silly? regardless of anyone's personal feel of the advantages of KB/M over gamepad, DUST has never represented anywhere near the peak abilities of a Mouse.

If you really think CCP can actively track the input the player uses, when most have their DS3 and MKB active at the same time and some the PS3 Move aswell. Then i don't know what to say.

Let me say this again for the 200th time so people who blame MKB(STILL?!) for their inadequacies.

NO DS3 USER IN CHROMOSOME EVER NEEDED ACTIVE AIM ASSIST TO BE COMPETITIVE,

Let alone 80-90% of the top 100 on the score board being DS3 users.

This is fact.