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Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution 1400	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:37:00 - [1] - Quote That is exactly what tank warfare has become. Everyone runs around the map full speed and insta-kills eachother. There is no skill left in it. Tanking is dead. More dead than it was in 1.6. I'm gonna go be a logi, again. Tanks are ruining this game. The True Tankers hate them. The infantry hate them. The only people who like 1.7 are the soma/sica spamming scrubs (PYREX- how dare you call yourself a 'tanker') Sure, prior 1.7, all tankers thought tanks were UP for their COST and they were- even non-tankers and AV agreed. I miss when tanking took skill. When this game was balanced (CHROMOSOME). Being a dropship, tank, or infantry should be equally rewarding. I want balance, please. Now fix tanks so scrubs don't use them for easy kills. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Scout Registry 261	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:42:00 - [2] - Quote O'Dell -- a Tanker -- speaks truth to Tanks. O'Dell for President. o7
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1760	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:42:00 - [3] - Quote Tanks are not some elite tool, they should be accessible to both vet and new players. Selling 'Templar' BPO's 25Mil ISK in under a week
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5258	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:44:00 - [4] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Tanks still feel too strong in 1.7 and AV is not strong enough to stop them WeGÇÖll need to do something about MLT tanks. We will see to rebalance some PG/CPU for equipment and more. More details will come in a dev blog/forum post. Le Source Never forget How to fix the Logi
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution 1400	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:46:00 - [5] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: O'Dell -- a Tanker -- speaks truth to Tanks. O'Dell for President. o7 Well, it's stupid. They should work the same as infantry- exactly the same. If you put a scrub in a gallogi proto suit with triple damage mods, he will suck- put the same guy in a sica with 2 hardeners, and he is God Mode. This is more broken than Chromosome damage mods. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution 1401	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:50:00 - [6] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Tanks are not some elite tool, they should be accessible to both vet and new players. Well I could say the same about proto suits but then I'd be an idiot. However, I do support tiercide. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Akdhar Saif Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 136	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:52:00 - [7] - Quote CCP's dilemma is between balance and income. If the dirt cheap OP tanks make CCP money through AUR purchases then so long as they aren't game breaking they will never be balanced any time soon. One of the downsides of making Dust 514 a F2P game I guess.
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution 1401	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:56:00 - [8] - Quote Akdhar Saif wrote: CCP's dilemma is between balance and income. If the dirt cheap OP tanks make CCP money through AUR purchases then so long as they aren't game breaking they will never be balanced any time soon. One of the downsides of making Dust 514 a F2P game I guess. i bought 450 aurum tanks after 1.0 dropped....sorry guys. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Scout Registry 262	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:03:00 - [9] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Well, it's stupid. Scrub drops 70-100k Isk, so now I have fight a mini-boss? Stupid. Ask me to fight 6 mini-bosses at once? Demon Souls didn't even try this. Stupid.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9614	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:06:00 - [10] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Tanks are not some elite tool, they should be accessible to both vet and new players. So you think militia tanks are ok as is? You do know it only takes a couple weeks for a brand new character to skill into a standard tank, right? Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict

Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 103	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:11:00 - [11] - Quote make it take skill to drive a tank, take away 3rd person view and give them manual gears with seperate hull/movement controls tanks are now not just big cheapass toys
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3023	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:55:00 - [12] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: O'Dell -- a Tanker -- speaks truth to Tanks. O'Dell for President. o7 I guess that's why they call him (her?) the highest level unicorn. Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate AV is easy huh? Talk is cheap.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3024	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:00:00 - [13] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Tanks are not some elite tool, they should be accessible to both vet and new players. While I do believe that Skill>SP should be a thing, these current tanks are beyond ridiculous. When I can fit a Soma to take on a Particle Cannon, that's a problem. When I can fit a State Gunnlogi to shred an Ion Madrugar, that's a problem. Currently, there is no point of spending SP on anything other than basic mods (lower CPU/PG) and Core Skills that give your modules a faster cooldown. Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate AV is easy huh? Talk is cheap.
thomas mak STRONG-ARMED BANDITS Public Disorder. 0	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:21:00 - [14] - Quote For me, it is balance in 1.0. One AV never takeout a tank but 3of them can do that easily. Real tanker would get off their tank untill their tank blow up, although not much people can blow up their tank.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3026	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:22:00 - [15] - Quote thomas mak wrote: For me, it is balance in 1.0. One AV never takeout a tank but 3of them can do that easily. How many people did it take to drive a tank again? Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate AV is easy huh? Talk is cheap.
SGT NOVA STAR Ahrendee Mercenaries 162	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:22:00 - [16] - Quote Monty Mole Clone wrote: make it take skill to drive a tank, take away 3rd person view and give them manual gears with seperate hull/movement controls tanks are now not just big cheapass toys I vote this THEEEE worst idea this month. thank you sir. VAYU! I CHOOSE YOU!
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 103	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:26:00 - [17] - Quote SGT NOVA STAR wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: make it take skill to drive a tank, take away 3rd person view and give them manual gears with seperate hull/movement controls tanks are now not just big cheapass toys I vote this THEEEE worst idea this month. thank you sir. how many times have ccp tried to balance av Vs havs? ive lost count, they are never going to fix the problem repeating the same mistakes over and over. time for a new direction i say, good day to you sir
daishi mk03 BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 536	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:32:00 - [18] - Quote You, Spkr, Takahiro and many others are responsible for this. Constant QQ and now we are here, To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin. The Scriptures,Book of Missions
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 159	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:41:00 - [19] - Quote How does choosing the cheapest option make someone any less of a scrub than people using more expensive tanks, which are even easier to use?
Scout Registry 267	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:42:00 - [20] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: You, Spkr, Takahiro and many others are responsible for this. Constant QQ and now we are here, In all tankers' defense, they had good reason to complain in previous builds. It was nearly impossible for even a great tanker to turn a profit, and anyone who wished to tank regularly pretty much required corporate sponsorship. It wasn't a self-sustainable career path, regardless of skill level, especially for a newcomer. That was prior to 1.7. Now that tanks are mini-bosses that everyone can afford, we've been given opportunity to see the tank community's true colors. How many tankers have stepped forward and said, "this nonsense is out of hand" ... maybe 5? Mark my words, things will be different with Scouts and Cloak. If its OP, we'll be the first to complain about it and the first to offer feedback on how to fix it.

daishi mk03 BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 537	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:44:00 - [21] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: You, Spkr, Takahiro and many others are responsible for this. Constant QQ and now we are here, In all tankers' defense, they had good reason to complain in previous builds. It was nearly impossible for even a great tanker to turn a profit, and anyone who wished to tank regularly pretty much required corporate sponsorship. It wasn't a self-sustainable career path, regardless of skill level, especially for a newcomer. That was prior to 1.7. I was fine, doing my tanking job every game. 500k / Missile Madrugar, losing 1 every 3 games for months. To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin. The Scriptures,Book of Missions
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution 1408	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:14:00 - [22] - Quote Making core skills matter would be #yolosnapchatstatusupdatehood4lyfe But in Chrome, tanks were garbage until you had your core skills, which were indemtical to infantty, maxed. We should bring those back. Yeah, it's an SP sink, but the real tankers will do fine. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3391	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:53:00 - [23] - Quote As always- just separate the driver from the goddamn main turret. That has ALWAYS been the problem We used to have a time machine
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2111	Posted - 2014.01.04 20:03:00 - [24] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: You, Spkr, Takahiro and many others are responsible for this. Constant QQ and now we are here, Isnt it great Now we have infantry complaining about a 70k ISK tank when there proto AV costs 150k, but back in the day having a 1.7mil tank didnt mean you should insta pwn when a cheap AV fit should be able to kill any vehicle Tanks shouldnt be able to solo a team yet AV should be able to solo all vehicles AV should be the only counter to tanks AV should be as powerful if not more powerful than a tank Tanks should take teamwork but AV shouldnt etc etc etc I love the double standards from infantry, just makes this patch sweeter Intelligence is OP
daishi mk03 BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 538	Posted - 2014.01.04 23:08:00 - [25] - Quote lol, you destroyed every reasonable tank play in dust 514, now every scrub can take a mlt sica / 2 dmg mods and 2 shot everything. another thing, I really love this line "Tanks shouldnt be able to solo a team yet AV should be able to solo all vehicles " now you went fully ****, never go fully **** edit: of course 1 guy shouldn't be able to kill 16 guys, but 1 guy with AV should be able to kill 1 guy in a tank. To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin. The Scriptures,Book of Missions
Blaze Ashra Ametat Security Amarr Empire 73	Posted - 2014.01.04 23:46:00 - [26] - Quote It's not even 500 sp to become a tanker, if you think that the fotm guys won't just spend it then you're going to be disappointed.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 434	Posted - 2014.01.05 00:14:00 - [27] - Quote Anyone here ever play any of the MechWarrior games on Pc? Oh yeah, MTAC'S will be the tank solution. If we ever get them, I can only whonder how you could fit them. CEO Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
Rusty Shallows 680	Posted - 2014.01.05 00:21:00 - [28] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: CoD514: Tank Expansion Pack Is it just me or are O'Dell's thread titles getting more scary? MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution 1441	Posted - 2014.01.05 07:50:00 - [29] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: CoD514: Tank Expansion Pack Is it just me or are O'Dell's thread titles getting more scary? Mg flight got delayed and I don't have isk for a hotel. My brain is fried. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4367	Posted - 2014.01.05 07:55:00 - [30] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: That is exactly what tank warfare has become. Everyone runs around the map full speed and insta-kills eachother. There is no skill left in it. Tanking is dead. More dead than it was in 1.6. I'm gonna go be a logi, again. Tanks are ruining this game. The True Tankers hate them. The infantry hate them. The only people who like 1.7 are the soma/sica spamming scrubs (PYREX- how dare you call yourself a 'tanker') Sure, prior 1.7, all tankers thought tanks were UP for their COST and they were- even non-tankers and AV agreed. I miss when tanking took skill. When this game was balanced (CHROMOSOME). Being a dropship, tank, or infantry should be equally rewarding. I want balance, please. Now fix tanks so scrubs don't use them for easy kills. I like 1.7, but that's because my ADS is actually a real threat now more than ever before. Of course, until a Soma or Sica triple-stacking damage mods alphas me right through my hardener from across the map. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector



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