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jenza aranda
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:01:00 -
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Hey all,
First off, its great that you want to be on the CPM, regardless what some people say it does give you a real opportunity to be involved with a lot of interesting things and made changes and influence the game. Before you really do decide ramping up your individual campaigns I though i would share this open letter as a bit of advice for anyone going for it.
There are a couple of very important questions that you will want to ask yourself. The most important one being "Why do I want to be on the CPM?" If the answer is basically anything other than "I want to help make the game better" You are probably wasting your time. There seems to be a lot of misconceptions, especially among the players who may not have played eve, that being in the CPM somehow gives you power, stuff for personal gain and a way to twist the game to suit your needs. I am just stating right now that this is just not the case, and I'll go into why a little later, what it DOES give you is heartaches, headaches, little sleep, early/late nights and having to wake up or stay up to conference with Shanghai. Its true that perhaps once a year you may be able to go to fanfest, but considering all the stuff that happens over the year, it is(at least from the community), a very thankless task.
Another very important question to ask yourself is "Can I stand the hate?". Most of the work that CPM do is behind closed doors and under the very heavy blanket that is the NDA. Because of this, many people will make up their own assumptions of whats going on and make baseless assumptions about people, usually because of an unpopular opinion you have or some off hand comment about your personality.
To those who are not going to run but still going to vote, the most important thing you must understand is that having a good personality doesn't necessarily mean that person is a good CPM, conversely being a troll doesn't necessarily make you a bad CPM. A perfect example of this would be The Mitanni, the CEO of goonswarm. He is basically the biggest troll in the new eden universe in charge of a massive troll alliance however he was one of the most productive chairman that the CSM has ever had, love him or hate him, this much is a fact.
Another important thing I wanted to address is that many people have been saying "vote me for scout CPM!" or tanks or heavies ect... this mentality WILL NOT WORK. A CPM is expected to have first hand experience on every aspect of play and cannot be seen advocating only for their class, this is largely done by the self policing nature of the CPM.
Yesterday in the "Jenza for CPM1" thread that Jason Pearson created, someone asked me a bit about what the CPM does do, Ill quote that here just because.
Quote:we talk to CCP basically on a daily basis, if, nothing else, to just chat about our day and improve the relationship.
CCP gets a lot of crazy ideas, some great some not so great. In this instance we provide both something of a sanity check to CCP and to give our feedback on the situation. The devs also cant look at the forum all the time, so if there is a very serious bug or glitch, its a great way to get their attention to it asap.
We also see dev blogs before they come out so that we can stop any phrases or anything like that which may create cause for concern in the community.
We also constantly talk about various ideas that the community has posted and things here and there. Its a very difficult, time consuming and thankless job but its worth it as the game and the community do benifit in the long term. A lot of the stuff we do if behind closed doors so its difficult to talk about specifics, it also irritates me when people say that I or any other CPM isnt doing anything or is a bad or even good CPM because honestly they dont see whats going on beyond the forums.
Its not all sunshine and bunnies if you want to apply for CPM and its not going to let you have infinite power either.
Now finally, about me and my plans. Honestly I have been toying with the idea of running for CPM1 if, nothing else, to spite some of the asshats that have been dogging me this last year, but I really am not sure. One one hand as, to my knowledge, none of the current CPM are going to be running, it would be very usful for the next lot to have someone who has been there like we had Hans. On the other hand, for various reasons that are covered by NDA, the next CPM is going to have a REALLY hard time, possibly harder than what we had. Its this reason that i know a few of the current CPM dont want back in (well, that and they are alll a bit tired of it).
So yes, everyone here should think very long and hard if you wish to run because it will NOT be easy and it will NOT be all fun and games. Either way, if you think you can take it and make a positive influence on the game, best of luck to you! I have a personal list of people I do hope will be running so I can vote on them but I will be keeping that private.
Kind Regards,
Jenza Aranda // Jennifer Murray
CPM0
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dogmanpig
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:02:00 -
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vote for me, i promise the most crack
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133513&find=unread
You hate me, I hate you. Lets keep it that way.
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Mithridates VI
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:05:00 -
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This thread is Mithridates approved and is an accurate summation of how being CPM works.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:05:00 -
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jenza, thanks for the post. While I haven't sat on the CSM or CPM before, I know enough about it from various members to know it's a lot of work and a lot of hate. Tip of the hat for the classy post and the reality check.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:12:00 -
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+1 for the info Jenza. I really want to know why the current CPM thinks the next one will have it worse - i know, i know, NDA.
Is there anything NDA-safe you can tell us about that? Worse in what sense?
I support SP rollover.
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Elmo Love U
514 Mile High Club
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:13:00 -
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I feel sorry for anyone running. What a joke the CPM is. Asking for sht nobody even wanted. Year later, game worse then ever.
ChantsPVE PVE PVE PVE
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jenza aranda
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:14:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:+1 for the info Jenza. I really want to know why the current CPM thinks the next one will have it worse - i know, i know, NDA.
Is there anything NDA-safe you can tell us about that? Worse in what sense?
Honestly i shouldnt even be saying its going to be worse but i cant help but say it to keep my conscience clear and make sure that they had some kind of warning. I really can't say why but I can say with near certainty its going to be harder and worse than the time we had.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:18:00 -
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If you run you have my vote, that goes for any of the current CPM as well.
Thanks for the info, good post
Assault Dropship Montage
Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
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SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:19:00 -
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Sounds ominous.
Still, I'll throw my hat into the ring when the time comes.
Heck, Shanghai and Australian time zones are only 2 hours apart, so timezones are suddenly working in my favour for once.
"Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)"
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Public Disorder.
1423
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:20:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:+1 for the info Jenza. I really want to know why the current CPM thinks the next one will have it worse - i know, i know, NDA.
Is there anything NDA-safe you can tell us about that? Worse in what sense? Honestly i shouldnt even be saying its going to be worse but i cant help but say it to keep my conscience clear and make sure that they had some kind of warning. I really can't say why but I can say with near certainty its going to be harder and worse than the time we had.
KK, thanks anyway. I'm sure peeps will appreciate the heads up. The way i look at it is some early candidate education will only help in getting us better quality candidates to choose from.
I support SP rollover.
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The Furtive Pygmy
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:20:00 -
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Also, make sure you change your pants on a daily basis or you'll never live it down. |
Spademan
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:20:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:+1 for the info Jenza. I really want to know why the current CPM thinks the next one will have it worse - i know, i know, NDA.
Is there anything NDA-safe you can tell us about that? Worse in what sense? Honestly i shouldnt even be saying its going to be worse but i cant help but say it to keep my conscience clear and make sure that they had some kind of warning. I really can't say why but I can say with near certainty its going to be harder and worse than the time we had.
One question, though before I ask I ust want to say that I'm not all that famiiar with the CSM.
Is there a limit to the amount of times one person could be voted on to the CPM? And if so, would that apply to you and the others, considering how you weren't quite voted, would this time count towards the maximum you guys have?
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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Free Beers
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:21:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:+1 for the info Jenza. I really want to know why the current CPM thinks the next one will have it worse - i know, i know, NDA.
Is there anything NDA-safe you can tell us about that? Worse in what sense? Honestly i shouldnt even be saying its going to be worse but i cant help but say it to keep my conscience clear and make sure that they had some kind of warning. I really can't say why but I can say with near certainty its going to be harder and worse than the time we had.
The other thing people need to know is that it super hard to actually talk to players about things because of NDA. I could have a 5 minute conversation with kain or hans and hear "I can't say beers" 10 times. So end up just leaving them what i think on skype, which again they cant really give me a response too.
The most I ever get from the cpm is to make a thread to get responses so they can point it out to ccp. A lot of what the cpm does has nothing to do with working with players to solve issues. Thats why its super important not to elect a bunch of fking morons which is likely to happen.
[CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm
[CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit
[CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
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jenza aranda
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:21:00 -
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Spademan wrote:jenza aranda wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:+1 for the info Jenza. I really want to know why the current CPM thinks the next one will have it worse - i know, i know, NDA.
Is there anything NDA-safe you can tell us about that? Worse in what sense? Honestly i shouldnt even be saying its going to be worse but i cant help but say it to keep my conscience clear and make sure that they had some kind of warning. I really can't say why but I can say with near certainty its going to be harder and worse than the time we had. One question, though before I ask I ust want to say that I'm not all that famiiar with the CSM. Is there a limit to the amount of times one person could be voted on to the CPM? And if so, would that apply to you and the others, considering how you weren't quite voted, would this time count towards the maximum you guys have?
as far as i know there is no maximum
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:22:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Also, make sure you change your pants on a daily basis or you'll never live it down.
Also, don't be an annoying douche bag with dry material, it will haunt you throughout New Eden for forever.
Assault Dropship Montage
Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
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The Furtive Pygmy
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:24:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Also, make sure you change your pants on a daily basis or you'll never live it down. Also, don't be an annoying douche bag with dry material, it will haunt you throughout New Eden for forever.
Not as dry as those pants tho |
Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:24:00 -
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[quote=Mithridates VI]This thread is Mithridates approved and is an accurate summation of how being CPM works.[/quote
How Do You Know It's Accurate, You Don't Know What Happens Behind The So Called "Closed Doors"
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In All Seriousness I Know The CPM Are Doing A Fine Job...ATM :o
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Mithridates VI
Imperfects
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:39:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:This thread is Mithridates approved and is an accurate summation of how being CPM works. How Do You Know It's Accurate, You Don't Know What Happens Behind The So Called " Closed Doors" In All Seriousness I Know The CPM Are Doing A Fine Job... ATM :o
jenza didn't say anything about what is happening behind closed doors. If she had, I wouldn't have commented on that part.
I'm not going to tell you how to build your character but I'd suggest putting any spare SP into literacy, kthx. At prof 2 you learn how to use capital letters.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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CCP Saberwing
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Posted - 2014.01.04 04:29:00 -
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jenza has been great to work with since I've come in, and I have nothing but good things to say for all of the current members of the CPM. They've been putting in more time and effort than you can imagine. :)
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2014.01.04 04:32:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:That being in the CPM somehow gives you power, stuff for personal gain and a way to twist the game to suit your needs.
You greatly underestimate me. 
Selling 'Templar' BPO's
25Mil ISK in under a week
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 04:44:00 -
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I have wanted to run for CPM since cpm 0 was announced... not sure I have the clout though.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
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Mithridates VI
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Posted - 2014.01.04 05:07:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:I have wanted to run for CPM since cpm 0 was announced... not sure I have the clout though.
If you have a job, consider whether you want an entire second one.
If you go to school, consider whether you have time to also be a volunteer employee, talking to CCP about their game but unable to tell other players about it.
If you are unemployed, consider whether working for free sounds like a constructive use of your time.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.01.04 05:31:00 -
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I'm fascinated by the opportunity. I'm in school and I have the time (obviously anyone who has time to rack up 50k+ kills in game has time) however this doesn't make me any less apprehensive about the work especially when they aren't clear cut.
I dont think i'll run unless I have reservations about those that do step up. I'm aware of many more qualified than I, however.
Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds.
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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2014.01.04 05:39:00 -
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Vote for me.
My qualifications are as follows:
Level 1 Forum Warrior.
I want to make the game better.
I want power.
Edit: I also want to know what CCP is working on. So I can hold secrets over the heads of the rest of the community of course.
That's it.
Fizzer94 // Level 1 Forum Warrior // PLASMA CANNONS ARE REALLY BAD NOW, FIX THEM!
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.04 05:58:00 -
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I don't get the point of CPM. It's supposed to be a bridge between devs and community but the bridge is broken because of NDA. Seems like CPM is mostly a popularity pageant.
Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
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Omareth Nasadra
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.04 06:22:00 -
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tx jenza and all the other cpm for all you did during your first mandate, you did a good job
Minmatar, In rust we trust!!!
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 06:30:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:I don't get the point of CPM. It's supposed to be a bridge between devs and community but the bridge is broken because of NDA. Seems like CPM is mostly a popularity pageant.
The big problem is that CCP doesn't have boots-on-the-ground experience with their own game on live servers. For instance, CCP devs aren't allowed to play in PC. And I don't think the game engine will let them spectate as of current. So the important part is the CPM can convey what players see and realistically contend with to CCP, who's often basing their decisions on their internal test servers otherwise.
Ideally, the CPM should have some ability to relay back to players and assist with community relations, but that depends on how lose the NDA is. DUST's NDA is held over people a lot more strictly than EVE, I think. We generally have more of an idea what CCP wants to do in the future from a broad sense compared to DUST.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
606
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Posted - 2014.01.04 06:32:00 -
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To be fair, Eve devs are more open about things than Dust devs. There's a number of reasons behind that.
"Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)"
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
752
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Posted - 2014.01.04 06:34:00 -
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I'll do it.
Munch
Dedicated Sniper.
Minmatar Patriot (6).
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Mithridates VI
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.01.04 06:35:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:It's supposed to be a bridge between devs and community
Is it?
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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CCP Saberwing
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C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.04 06:36:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:I don't get the point of CPM. It's supposed to be a bridge between devs and community but the bridge is broken because of NDA. Seems like CPM is mostly a popularity pageant. The big problem is that CCP doesn't have boots-on-the-ground experience with their own game on live servers. For instance, CCP devs aren't allowed to play in PC. And I don't think the game engine will let them spectate as of current. So the important part is the CPM can convey what players see and realistically contend with to CCP, who's often basing their decisions on their internal test servers otherwise. Ideally, the CPM should have some ability to relay back to players and assist with community relations, but that depends on how lose the NDA is. DUST's NDA is held over people a lot more strictly than EVE, I think. We generally have more of an idea what CCP wants to do in the future from a broad sense compared to DUST.
That's not exactly true. We're not allowed to play in PC or FW on our dev accounts. :)
The CPM also don't exist solely to facilitate outbound communication. They are heavily involved with the Development process - making design tweaks, acting as a sounding board for ideas and as a sanity check. Alongside bringing their knowledge and first-hand experience of DUST, they need to exhibit maturity and really understand game development. They're an invaluable asset to have.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 06:40:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:That's not exactly true. We're not allowed to play in PC or FW on our dev accounts. :)
Ah yes, true. But are you guys any good at PC? ;) The world may never know.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Amarrgheddon
Warcaste
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Posted - 2014.01.04 06:45:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:jenza has been great to work with since I've come in, and I have nothing but good things to say for all of the current members of the CPM. They've been putting in more time and effort than you can imagine. :)
I can imagine my life span, by default. I doubt your last sentence is correct. |
lee corwood
Knights Of Ender
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 06:49:00 -
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As a developer myself, this sounds like it would be incredibly rewarding to be a part of, even if it is hard, tiring and sometimes frustrating, however, I think there might be better candidates. Like others, I'm hesitant to really put my name in the hat when so much seems vague. However, I've had to sign many a NDA so I understand how these things go. I've only been involved with this game about 6 months now and I've seen it change in many ways. I wish those that run all the luck and thanks for the open letter Jenza. A salute for you for all that you've done that others many never know about o7
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.01.04 06:59:00 -
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I'm still honestly thinking about CPM Jenza but I have random hours at my job because I work security, along with transaction management.
There are sometimes where I'm still at work at, lets say, 2 am or going to work at 5am. Would that negatively affect my performance and contributions as CPM? That is if by some random chance I get there. |
Mithridates VI
Imperfects
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Posted - 2014.01.04 07:00:00 -
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I would recommend that anyone seriously considering putting their name forward for CPM join the IRC and interact with the current CPM and devs who pass by there to get a more realistic picture of what's happening that the typical "jenza hasn't adequately defended my particular playstyle; impeach! impeach!" mentality.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
606
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Posted - 2014.01.04 07:03:00 -
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Amarrgheddon wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:jenza has been great to work with since I've come in, and I have nothing but good things to say for all of the current members of the CPM. They've been putting in more time and effort than you can imagine. :) I can imagine my life span, by default. I doubt your last sentence is correct.
+fedoratip /u/Amarrgheddon 0.004 FED
"Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)"
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Harken Torkal
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.04 07:10:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:I have wanted to run for CPM since cpm 0 was announced... not sure I have the clout though.
Read the EVE Online CSM minutes. You'll see that being good at CxM'ing isn't about having clout, it's about being aware of what's happening in the DUST universe from the player side and the CCP side, and being able to diplomatically communicate to the developers that Plan X is not going to be received well, Idea Y is going to be awesome, and helping the developers prioritise what gets developed first.
Oh, and pushing a more meaningful EVE/DUST link |
Levithunder
Butt Hurt Try Hards
Primus Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.04 10:25:00 -
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I would like to make this game better so it's less frustrating for people,it's just a game should be a game that people want to play after a hard days work.
(-í° -£-û -í°) CPM Here I come.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 10:31:00 -
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Hmmm.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 10:38:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:I would recommend that anyone seriously considering putting their name forward for CPM join the IRC and interact with the current CPM and devs who pass by there to get a more realistic picture of what's happening that the typical "jenza hasn't adequately defended my particular playstyle; impeach! impeach!" mentality.
This is actually a great piece of advice. Im willing to talk about anything thats not under NDA, you can find me in the IRC whenever i am not at work and feel free to contact me on skype too, (jenza514)
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Posted - 2014.01.04 10:58:00 -
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I would just like to say, I really want to help this game.
This game is the only one that strives to achieve exactly what I want from a game.
But I just feel like it's going in circles forever.
I want to help it really bad, but sadly I am not at the age to run for CPM.
And once I will be, I will be going for the military, so another 3 years of waiting.
By the time I could be helping, this game might already be great, and no help would be needed from me.
Good luck for anyone that is looking to make the game better, I hope you will achieve that goal.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 10:59:00 -
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i echoed this thread in the CPM board, here is what nova and hans had to say
Nova Knife wrote:I'll tack on some thoughts here as well, I suppose.
Firstly, To echo Jenza's sentiment;
If you're expecting any part of this to be fun, you're horribly wrong. If you plan on being a GOOD council bro, you're going to spend a huge portion of the time you used to spend playing the game... just sitting there talking to people, reading stuff, and facepalming instead. You're going to have to deal with facepalm after facepalm, unable to discuss your anguish with anyone but your councilbros. You're going to help CCP avoid travesties, and no one will ever know what you stopped except for your fellow council bros. Meanwhile, the vocal majority of the community will spit on you, despite your efforts.
One of the dark realities of design is that most ideas are usually pretty bad. When people have been brainstorming for a while... pretty much any idea can begin to sound really good, until someone else enters the room and says "That's just freaking terrible.... Your ideas are bad and you should feel bad. - But if you changed them like X, they could be good!" That person entering the room is going to be you as a CPM bro. And the sad truth is.... The people in the room are probably not going to listen to you nearly as often as you think, despite how obvious the flaws in their ideas may seem.
If you're easily frustrated, impatient, and quite frankly not a masochistic optimist.... The CPM is not for you.
You'll be in for a lot of sleepless nights, as you try to have meetings not just with CCP, but your fellow council bros to prepare for meetings with CCP across multiple timezones.
You'll get forum hate of all kinds under whatever veiled reason satisfies those who just want to rage, and the CPM makes a good conduit for that rage.
You'll spend hours talking to dozens of different people who say the exact same stuff, in dozens of different channels/mediums.
To top that all off... You'll find out that the CPM doesn't have nearly as much influence, or find out nearly as many 'secrets' as you might think. Whatever benefits you may think the CPM gets.... I can assure you that for nearly anyone who applies it will not be worth it for them, and the frustration will get the better of them.
But, I would like to differ from Jenza on one key point.
If you ask yourself "Why do I want to do this" and "I just want to make the game better" is your only answer... You're probably full of ****. Keeping that in mind, anyone attempting to be self-serving and push for benefits for their own corp/alliance/friends/self will very, very quickly be called out on it by the rest of the council, and it's a very easy way to get yourself relegated to the 'kids table' while everyone else discusses stuff seriously :P Even if CCP makes some stupid decisions here and there, they are smart enough to know when someone is pushing for something for the wrong reasons and know that those people will pretty much just get a patronizing tap on the head whenever they speak.
In summary :
While I would definitely call being on the CPM illuminating, and a good way to peer behind the veil of the game design industry.... I would consider no part of this position rewarding. No part of it was fun. It takes away from your ability to enjoy the game, plain and simple.
To anyone who is in the process of or has already drafted a generic "This is what is wrong with dust and how I plan to fix it" campaign posting : You're probably going to regret doing so long before your term is up. Fair warning.
Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Texs Red wrote:Why do you think the NDA will be worse for the CPM1? The NDA is something that's always going to vary item to item. It's really just with any specific item, what CCP says is or isn't for sharing. Ha, no, not at all. The NDA is super broad, a boiler plate sheet of paper that probably looks like a thousand others at many other companies. Basically says "dont share trade secrets". There's nothing specific ever named in the document itself. The CPM doesnt share stuff if CCP asks us not to, plain and simple. It's really nothing to do with the NDA prescribing anything, just more of a professional courtesy. Also....Its late and I'm tired but I'll happily echo all the thoughts from the above two CPM's, both Jenz and Nova gave a great summary of what incoming candidates should expect. I'll add one more thing - in my mind, the winning candidates are already a known quantity. Ask yourselves this - "have I already been doing the work of a CPM as much as I can without insider access?" If the answer is no, don't run. I'll be personally trying to murder your campaign if I think you're full of hot air. There's easily more than the needed number of people who have already been forwarding feedback to us and to the devs, and working with the community intimately, and who know what the community wants from CCP. The winners will be the people that are doing this work -right now-, and over the last several months. Not the ones who promise to, or who begin showing off their awesome usefulness in the next few months, they'll be the ones that have done it all last year and who people already think should run. So yeah, that's what I'll add to the stack of reasons to scare the weak away from the position. :) You already know if you've proven that you belong on the council. If you're not already helping, put the banners and pins and brownies away and just don't run. Those that belong there are already doing the job and the community knows it. These winning candidates won't be making promises, they'll be the ones pointing at their proven track record 
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Posted - 2014.01.04 11:15:00 -
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lol vote for jenza
All she will do is abuse broken game mechanics in PC to fill up the corp wallet before she robs it and dissappears without a trace for the next 6months
So that cancels out 'stuff for personal gain' and 'a way to twist the game to suit your needs'
'what it DOES give you is heartaches, headaches, little sleep, early/late nights and having to wake up or stay up to conference with Shanghai' - lolno, how can you do that when you dissappered for the past 6months?
'vote me for scout CPM!" or tanks or heavies ect... this mentality WILL NOT WORK' - 6ppl for each playstyle, Assult/Logi/Heavy/Vehicles/Scouts and an all rounder, some can be in PC/FW but it doesnt matter, if they have there head screwed on they could easily work together to better each class but also make sure each class has that counter, might aswell try it out you havnt been here for 6months and the rest of CPM0 has been eating icecream sandwiches
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Posted - 2014.01.04 11:23:00 -
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Remember that thing Nova said, paraphrased as "ragers gonna rage"?
See above.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2014.01.04 11:28:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Remember that thing Nova said, paraphrased as "ragers gonna rage"?
See above.
Thats rage? lolno
Its just what i saw unfold at the start and pointing out the flaws
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Posted - 2014.01.04 11:30:00 -
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Cheers for the Info, with a little luck it will waylay some of the trolls.
Unfortunately as much as I would like to I simply don't have the time to commit to being a CPM myself, otherwise I would be flooding the locker room with Propaganda.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
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Mithridates VI
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Posted - 2014.01.04 11:32:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:you dissappered for the past 6months?
Strange that CCP haven't shared this concern.
Or that dustsearch hasn't identified a lull in activity over the past 6 months.
Don't try to pass your trash off as anything but uninformed snarking.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Mithridates VI
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Posted - 2014.01.04 11:34:00 -
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I imagine a tally scratched into your wall. "Days since jenza last made contact:" and you're weeping as you chalk up another mark.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2014.01.04 11:37:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:I imagine a tally scratched into your wall. "Days since jenza last made contact:" and you're weeping as you chalk up another mark.
lolumadbro?
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Posted - 2014.01.04 11:39:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:I imagine a tally scratched into your wall. "Days since jenza last made contact:" and you're weeping as you chalk up another mark. lolumadbro?
"umadbro" is the last refuge of a weak troll whose argument has so fallen apart that there's no other recourse.
I pity you. 
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Kain Spero
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Posted - 2014.01.04 11:40:00 -
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I'll cross post what I said in the council chambers:
To all the would be candidates,
I have to agree with the sentiments of my fellow council members. If you think CPM will be a cool and fun thing you are going to be terribly disappointed and regret your decision to run.
The task that is put before the council is a job in every sense of the word. You will wake up at god awful hours for meetings after spending a most of the night preparing for that meeting. You will find your free time slipping away and time with family and friends having to be rescheduled so you can accomplish the tasks at hand. Your time will become the community's and CCP's resource to spend. You are a servant to the community and a servant to the betterment of the game.
You better not just like this game. You had better love it and the potential is has if you want to have any hope of surviving your term. You will find yourself in the most stressful position you ever thought imaginable. You will pour your heart out to make a difference and often find your blood, sweat, and tears fall on deaf ears in an institution that can't begin to fathom the importance of it's own community and the transparency required to keep that relationship intact. Fortitude and perseverance will be your strongest allies.
There is a chance you can make a difference though and help be part of something that makes Dust a better game for everyone. There is even a chance you can continue the progress of helping to make CCP realize the value of its community and that developing in a black box is the way of the past and an open relationship with their customers will bear far sweeter fruit.
Think twice about what you are getting into and know if you take this task lightly you will end up wasting the time of the other councilors, CCP, and most importantly the community. If you lack the fortitude this job will grind you into the dirt until there is nothing left but an empty husk, so take a hard look and yourself and be honest about deciding if you are ready for what this job requires.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 11:45:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:I imagine a tally scratched into your wall. "Days since jenza last made contact:" and you're weeping as you chalk up another mark. lolumadbro? "umadbro" is the last refuge of a weak troll whose argument has so fallen apart that there's no other recourse. I pity you.
Argument fall apart?
No its still standing, CPM0 abused game mechanics espc when it came to PC, tbh i would have found it hard to give up an advantage like that, make it rich and dont have to worry about ISK anymore
They still havnt done the 1 job they were formed to job
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2014.01.04 11:56:00 -
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I don't care about the wishes of the community at all. The community is stupid.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 11:59:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
Argument fall apart?
No its still standing, CPM0 abused game mechanics espc when it came to PC, tbh i would have found it hard to give up an advantage like that, make it rich and dont have to worry about ISK anymore
You've failed to demonstrate that and parts of the argument you used to attempt to do so were demonstrably false.
Takahiro Kashuken wrote:They still havnt done the 1 job they were formed to job
Which is what? And what metric have you used to determine their success? You seem totally full of it.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Posted - 2014.01.04 12:04:00 -
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i am more than aware of my inability to control my emotions when it comes to dust and thus the thought of being cpm never crossed my mind..i prefer others to suffer the migraine and headache dealing with ccp in any official sense must bring.
it is rude to insult the cpm for doing their job poorly if that is the case
instead you should try and strive to beat good enough to mock them about their gun game and be happy and content with the level of misery that dust provides us with currently.
good day
why use suits when ccp gave us nice shiny op as hell tanks that cost next to nothing
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Posted - 2014.01.04 12:04:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:
it is rude to insult the cpm for doing their job poorly if that is the case
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Posted - 2014.01.04 12:10:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:
it is rude to insult the cpm for doing their job poorly if that is the case
Fun, too!
sorry i just see it as rude to insult someone over how they perform they're job if one themselves is not capable of producing better results..so run for cpm get cpm do better than the current cpm..and make a thread rubbing it in and ill get on it and has something positive and nice to say...
cry about how they do their job?
i dont see you on irc begging ccp to replace a poor cpm memeber with yourself
idgaf current cpm is fine...is not like they have a major impact on the progression of the game and personally through my own personal exp no member of cpm has not willing to discuss and issue i express..and if the conversation goes well i get a ill bring it up on the new cpm meeting and then shortly there after i gets comment in the weekly updates from ccp.
so for me at least it seems like the system has a function that i have been readily able to use throughout most of dust with better feelings afterward that the ticket support system
hell mics went down the other day whats they first thing i do..go yell at hienz..who then yelled at the gm's who then yell at ccp and wtf happened our mics came back up...an example of cpm being useful right there
and as for kain he is on often now and is very knowledgeable i wouldnt let him near your wallet
why use suits when ccp gave us nice shiny op as hell tanks that cost next to nothing
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jenza aranda
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Posted - 2014.01.04 12:13:00 -
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last i checked, Hienz wasn't on the CPM :P
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Posted - 2014.01.04 12:14:00 -
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I am running for CPM.
Like I've said, I believe everyone is an idiot.
I can't really redact that statement just because it seems rude.
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few questions, can anybody sign up or is there requirements ie skills qualifications, or time spent playing,
I havnt been activley playing for a few weeks?
Will this affect my chances or will i have to play more.
would it matter if i hadnt watched all the update videos and lastly what is the significance of the 1 in cpm1.
Have you seen my baseball??
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Posted - 2014.01.04 13:53:00 -
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Mr m4gic wrote:few questions, can anybody sign up or is there requirements ie skills qualifications, or time spent playing,
I havnt been activley playing for a few weeks?
Will this affect my chances or will i have to play more.
would it matter if i hadnt watched all the update videos and lastly what is the significance of the 1 in cpm1.
CCP will make a post about that soon, but i wouldnt be surprised that there at least is a minimum age of 18
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Posted - 2014.01.04 14:55:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:
CCP will make a post about that soon, but i wouldnt be surprised that there at least is a minimum age of 18
Also a good hint is https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM#Candidate_Eligibility IMHO |
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:jenza aranda wrote:That being in the CPM somehow gives you power, stuff for personal gain and a way to twist the game to suit your needs. You greatly underestimate me.
theres one for the not voting for list
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
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Posted - 2014.01.04 22:07:00 -
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it will most likely be similar to this but we are still ironing out details
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Wallace and gromit are experts at dealing with naughty trousers (pants)
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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Dog piling here with other's sentiments.
There is a highly accurate forecast of unbelievable amounts of aggro:
From, family, work, girlfriend, friends, corp/allie mates, community, and even the devs.
Will be very likely.
Time will be more constrained, I am just lucky because I am a technology student and have online classes. Despite this fact of being able shift my schedule to revolve around shanghai's schedule. In the time I have been CPM I could have done a lot of other things including
Continuously update this list per patch
101 Bullets
Started this far sooner and gotten far more done
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1580957#post1580957
Continued to not only make this thread more awesome but archived all the pictures and organized it better
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=502753#post502753
Kept the role players up to date on ongoings from eve side
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1398887#post1398887
If you enjoy doing a lot of community things as a free player, you can kiss most of this goodbye when you become a CPM. Hell it is just simply amazing I managed to keep my post count up during my term.
Also for you no names that just suddenly appeared out of nowhere announcing your runs and then started doing community, I wish you the worst of luck, because even that amount is likely to be wasted effort. For those of you trying to unseat us since CPM 0 has been seated, I wish you the best of luck, most of you deserve it.
Also you must be willing and able to travel, have passport (250 usd if you don't have it or more if you need other documents, also good form of id might as well get one anyways.) and be rather unafraid of your real name being out there as all CPM 0's are and most likely all future CPMs as it is with the CSM.
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I have seen a few more people announcing their candidacy who still dont seem to understand the implications...
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Just so everyone is aware, jenza disappeared for six months with absolutely zero contact
This is her desperate attempt to try and get back public opinion for a CPM1 run
I dare you to campaign, I will personally make sure you're crippled with expert forum warrioring and mudslinging. |
jenza aranda
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"expert forum warrioring" ? "mudslinging" like mentioning my trousers before being promptly told to STFU and no one else even took notice?
Honestly I havnt even decided if I want to run because I know about the shitstorm to come for CPM1, thats why no one else on the CPM want to reapply.
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Posted - 2014.01.05 16:47:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Just so everyone is aware, jenza disappeared for six months with absolutely zero contact
This is her desperate attempt to try and get back public opinion for a CPM1 run
I dare you to campaign, I will personally make sure you're crippled with expert forum warrioring and mudslinging.
You STFU you little whiny *****.
"Wha wha wha, they are too busy with important real life stuff to talk with CCP over skype and get frustrated at how little they can do"
According to all of the CPM I talked to, Jenza still attended all of the meetings, she just had some **** that didn't allow her to be as active.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Posted - 2014.01.05 16:48:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Just so everyone is aware, jenza disappeared for six months with absolutely zero contact
This is her desperate attempt to try and get back public opinion for a CPM1 run
I dare you to campaign, I will personally make sure you're crippled with expert forum warrioring and mudslinging. You STFU you little whiny *****. "Wha wha wha, they are too busy with important real life stuff to talk with CCP over skype and get frustrated at how little she can do" According to all of the CPM I talked to, Jenza still attended all of the meetings, she just had some **** that didn't allow her to be as active.
We have her in a group chat with Nova Knife and Heinrich Jagerblitzen, btw. So yeah, we'd know.
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A link from past to future
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Cat Merc wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Just so everyone is aware, jenza disappeared for six months with absolutely zero contact
This is her desperate attempt to try and get back public opinion for a CPM1 run
I dare you to campaign, I will personally make sure you're crippled with expert forum warrioring and mudslinging. You STFU you little whiny *****. "Wha wha wha, they are too busy with important real life stuff to talk with CCP over skype and get frustrated at how little they can do" According to all of the CPM I talked to, Jenza still attended all of the meetings, she just had some **** that didn't allow her to be as active.
Yeah going dark for six months at a time is unacceptable when you're hired to be a community rep and help tell devs what we want
No wonder the game is horribly broken.
I dare you to run jenza, I double dog dare you. |
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Cat Merc wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Just so everyone is aware, jenza disappeared for six months with absolutely zero contact
This is her desperate attempt to try and get back public opinion for a CPM1 run
I dare you to campaign, I will personally make sure you're crippled with expert forum warrioring and mudslinging. You STFU you little whiny *****. "Wha wha wha, they are too busy with important real life stuff to talk with CCP over skype and get frustrated at how little they can do" According to all of the CPM I talked to, Jenza still attended all of the meetings, she just had some **** that didn't allow her to be as active. Yeah going dark for six months at a time is unacceptable when you're hired to be a community rep and help tell devs what we want No wonder the game is horribly broken. I dare you to run jenza, I double dog dare you.
You are such a pansy
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Posted - 2014.01.05 16:52:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Cat Merc wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Just so everyone is aware, jenza disappeared for six months with absolutely zero contact
This is her desperate attempt to try and get back public opinion for a CPM1 run
I dare you to campaign, I will personally make sure you're crippled with expert forum warrioring and mudslinging. You STFU you little whiny *****. "Wha wha wha, they are too busy with important real life stuff to talk with CCP over skype and get frustrated at how little they can do" According to all of the CPM I talked to, Jenza still attended all of the meetings, she just had some **** that didn't allow her to be as active. Yeah going dark for six months at a time is unacceptable when you're hired to be a community rep and help tell devs what we want No wonder the game is horribly broken. I dare you to run jenza, I double dog dare you.
Do you HONESTLY think she could have fixed all of this?
ESPECIALLY when she WAS attending the meetings, she didn't disappear off the radar, she was still talking with CCP.
P.S:
She wasn't hired, she volunteered.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Posted - 2014.01.05 16:52:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Cat Merc wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Just so everyone is aware, jenza disappeared for six months with absolutely zero contact
This is her desperate attempt to try and get back public opinion for a CPM1 run
I dare you to campaign, I will personally make sure you're crippled with expert forum warrioring and mudslinging. You STFU you little whiny *****. "Wha wha wha, they are too busy with important real life stuff to talk with CCP over skype and get frustrated at how little they can do" According to all of the CPM I talked to, Jenza still attended all of the meetings, she just had some **** that didn't allow her to be as active. Yeah going dark for six months at a time is unacceptable when you're hired to be a community rep and help tell devs what we want No wonder the game is horribly broken. I dare you to run jenza, I double dog dare you.
This after he makes a thread saying CCP is bad for going home to see their families for the holidays because the game has problems.
Trashposter is trash.
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Cat Merc wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Just so everyone is aware, jenza disappeared for six months with absolutely zero contact
This is her desperate attempt to try and get back public opinion for a CPM1 run
I dare you to campaign, I will personally make sure you're crippled with expert forum warrioring and mudslinging. You STFU you little whiny *****. "Wha wha wha, they are too busy with important real life stuff to talk with CCP over skype and get frustrated at how little they can do" According to all of the CPM I talked to, Jenza still attended all of the meetings, she just had some **** that didn't allow her to be as active. Yeah going dark for six months at a time is unacceptable when you're hired to be a community rep and help tell devs what we want No wonder the game is horribly broken. I dare you to run jenza, I double dog dare you.
Soooo you actually blame her for the state of the game? You are SERIOUSLY overestimating the powers of the CPM. And the feline is right, you are being a whiny *****, and furthermore you are a jive turkey.
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Just so everyone is aware, jenza disappeared for six months with absolutely zero contact
This is her desperate attempt to try and get back public opinion for a CPM1 run
I dare you to campaign, I will personally make sure you're crippled with expert forum warrioring and mudslinging.
With all due respect I think that's pretty weak, did someone urinate in your corn flakes today? Lol
Being a d!ck is one thing but going out of your way to screw someone over is harsh, oh wait I forgot where we are.
Carry on lol.
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Cat Merc wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Cat Merc wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Just so everyone is aware, jenza disappeared for six months with absolutely zero contact
This is her desperate attempt to try and get back public opinion for a CPM1 run
I dare you to campaign, I will personally make sure you're crippled with expert forum warrioring and mudslinging. You STFU you little whiny *****. "Wha wha wha, they are too busy with important real life stuff to talk with CCP over skype and get frustrated at how little they can do" According to all of the CPM I talked to, Jenza still attended all of the meetings, she just had some **** that didn't allow her to be as active. Yeah going dark for six months at a time is unacceptable when you're hired to be a community rep and help tell devs what we want No wonder the game is horribly broken. I dare you to run jenza, I double dog dare you. Do you HONESTLY think she could have fixed all of this? ESPECIALLY when she WAS attending the meetings, she didn't disappear off the radar, she was still talking with CCP. P.S: She wasn't hired, she volunteered.
No, but going completely dark for six months is unacceptable and someone who does that shouldn't even have an inkling about running for the next CPM. |
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so.... are you actually blaming the whole state of the game on me?! if so i think you overestimate a CPM's power. I also dont remember being hired by anyone at CCP.
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Posted - 2014.01.05 16:57:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Cat Merc wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Cat Merc wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Just so everyone is aware, jenza disappeared for six months with absolutely zero contact
This is her desperate attempt to try and get back public opinion for a CPM1 run
I dare you to campaign, I will personally make sure you're crippled with expert forum warrioring and mudslinging. You STFU you little whiny *****. "Wha wha wha, they are too busy with important real life stuff to talk with CCP over skype and get frustrated at how little they can do" According to all of the CPM I talked to, Jenza still attended all of the meetings, she just had some **** that didn't allow her to be as active. Yeah going dark for six months at a time is unacceptable when you're hired to be a community rep and help tell devs what we want No wonder the game is horribly broken. I dare you to run jenza, I double dog dare you. Do you HONESTLY think she could have fixed all of this? ESPECIALLY when she WAS attending the meetings, she didn't disappear off the radar, she was still talking with CCP. P.S: She wasn't hired, she volunteered. No, but going completely dark for six months is unacceptable and someone who does that shouldn't even have an inkling about running for the next CPM.
Are you an alt?
Do you think you'd be any good for the position?
If so then why?
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Posted - 2014.01.05 16:59:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:so.... are you actually blaming the whole state of the game on me?! if so i think you overestimate a CPM's power. I also dont remember being hired by anyone at CCP.
Never said that, I'm blaming you for going dark for half a year and then having the balls to consider running again
Like I said, just try it, see what happens. |
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:jenza aranda wrote:so.... are you actually blaming the whole state of the game on me?! if so i think you overestimate a CPM's power. I also dont remember being hired by anyone at CCP. Never said that, I'm blaming you for going dark for half a year and then having the balls to consider running again Like I said, just try it, see what happens.
You do realize they over select the number of needed people to allow coverage in lapses when they occur. There'd been plenty of times that the cpm did not have full coverage because of work, finals, and family or just plain schedule (meetings go to as long as 1am to 4am my time)
There was also the massive amounts of unconditional hate towards the cpm early and still to this days. Jenza at the start was encouraged to take a short leave of absence from public due to the large amounts of unfair harassment she was getting and it was disrupting her work within the cpm as well. Not everyone has a thick pelt like I do. She did roll an alt and watched the game from afar.
So -1 for you being an ignorant jackhat.
and I can guarantee we're likely to elect a bailer in cpm 1 after they find out its not fun and games.
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Posted - 2014.01.05 17:30:00 -
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I like how you don't deny she went dark for half a year.
She, nor you, will be elected Cpm1
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[quote=The Furtive Pygmy]I like how you don't deny she went dark for half a year.
She, nor you, will be elected Cpm1
Mad? [/quote
I like the fact you didn't even answer my question.
Anyway posts hidden lol.
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No, I wouldn't make a good CPM, I'd be fired day one for telling CCP how it is. |
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Sorry type that again, I didn't see mate.
Was busy reading the idiots guide to being a tw@ seen as you do it so well.
Hahaha
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:No, I wouldn't make a good CPM, I'd be fired day one for telling CCP how it is.
LOL that is not grounds on getting fired from the CPM, but actually a part of the qualification (the how part is rather more important though, hence diplomacy being its better half)
Just shows you how much more of an ignorant jackhat you are.
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:No, I wouldn't make a good CPM, I'd be fired day one for telling CCP how it is. LOL that is not grounds on getting fired from the CPM, but actually a part of the qualification (the how part is rather more important though, hence diplomacy being its better half) Just shows you how much more of an ignorant jackhat you are.
Upset even if you ran you wouldn't get voted in because you, much like jenza, are an egotistical forum troll with little knowledge of the actual game?
Remember my 'forge is OP' topic you trolled a few months back, and then CCP nerfed forges despite you saying they shouldn't be?
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Sorry furgative, come again? Lol
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:No, I wouldn't make a good CPM, I'd be fired day one for telling CCP how it is. LOL that is not grounds on getting fired from the CPM, but actually a part of the qualification (the how part is rather more important though, hence diplomacy being its better half) Just shows you how much more of an ignorant jackhat you are. Upset even if you ran you wouldn't get voted in because you, much like jenza, are an egotistical forum troll with little knowledge of the actual game? Remember my 'forge is OP' topic you trolled a few months back, and then CCP nerfed forges despite you saying they shouldn't be? Priceless.
So says the coward too afraid to run whose own ego is probably far more inflated than anyone else in this thread. Some master of politics you are, I doubt you can sway any votes and I would recon you are more likely to get yourself a ban for general jack hattery than getting anyone running for cpm 1 to stop running if all you can resort to is just wine tactics. Cheese bro you're cracker me up.
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If she was so horrible, I am sure CCP would discourage her from running.
Whoever runs, I hope there is at least one female still on the board. There are increasing numbers of females playing. Unfortunately I think it's harder for females though. We tend to not have as thick skin as males and males want to immediately talk smack about how we got in by sleeping with someone or stupid immature comments get said about how we look.
Thanks Jenza for all you did and continue to do! |
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Just a quick question. Do you guys get paid? |
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MoonEagle A wrote:If she was so horrible, I am sure CCP would discourage her from running.
Whoever runs, I hope there is at least one female still on the board. There are increasing numbers of females playing. Unfortunately I think it's harder for females though. We tend to not have as thick skin as males and males want to immediately talk smack about how we got in by sleeping with someone or stupid immature comments get said about how we look.
Thanks Jenza for all you did and continue to do!
There are also some of us females that went to college for Computer Science with 300 guys and 7 girls. Bring it boys! Though I have to admit its not so much thick skin as it is just willing to sit in the mud and sling poop around like a 4 year old. Only certain days am I willing to sink down to that level and laugh about it, however I'm happy to say most days I don't have to as I play with plenty of level headed guys.
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Aaroniero d'Lioncourt wrote:Just a quick question. Do you guys get paid?
the only payment we get is satisfaction and love from the community!
Quote:There are also some of us females that went to college for Computer Science with 300 guys and 7 girls. Bring it boys! Twisted Though I have to admit its not so much thick skin as it is just willing to sit in the mud and sling poop around like a 4 year old. Only certain days am I willing to sink down to that level and laugh about it, however I'm happy to say most days I don't have to as I play with plenty of level headed guys.
I was one of those females :P
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jenza aranda wrote:Aaroniero d'Lioncourt wrote:Just a quick question. Do you guys get paid? the only payment we get is satisfaction and love from the community! Quote:There are also some of us females that went to college for Computer Science with 300 guys and 7 girls. Bring it boys! Twisted Though I have to admit its not so much thick skin as it is just willing to sit in the mud and sling poop around like a 4 year old. Only certain days am I willing to sink down to that level and laugh about it, however I'm happy to say most days I don't have to as I play with plenty of level headed guys. I was one of those females :P
When you get your boat please post a picture of it.
My partners dad lives on one and may I suggest you name your boat the HMS jenzas pants lol 
Also my partner was on Rosie and Jim and she should never have told me because I posted the link on Fb hahahahaha.
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TechMechMeds wrote:jenza aranda wrote:Aaroniero d'Lioncourt wrote:Just a quick question. Do you guys get paid? the only payment we get is satisfaction and love from the community! Quote:There are also some of us females that went to college for Computer Science with 300 guys and 7 girls. Bring it boys! Twisted Though I have to admit its not so much thick skin as it is just willing to sit in the mud and sling poop around like a 4 year old. Only certain days am I willing to sink down to that level and laugh about it, however I'm happy to say most days I don't have to as I play with plenty of level headed guys. I was one of those females :P When you get your boat please post a picture of it. My partners dad lives on one and may I suggest you name your boat the HMS jenzas pants lol Also my partner was on Rosie and Jim and she should never have told me because I posted the link on Fb hahahahaha.
Oh i totally intend to get a photo! not before i have it painted however :) I'm still looking for a suitable boat and i intend to give it a eve/dust like name with a paintjob to go with it :)
I LOVED rosie and jim as a child! I saw this fantastic boat on sale recently called Ros+¬ and Gin :P
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:No, I wouldn't make a good CPM, I'd be fired day one for telling CCP how it is. LOL that is not grounds on getting fired from the CPM, but actually a part of the qualification (the how part is rather more important though, hence diplomacy being its better half) Just shows you how much more of an ignorant jackhat you are. Upset even if you ran you wouldn't get voted in because you, much like jenza, are an egotistical forum troll with little knowledge of the actual game? Remember my 'forge is OP' topic you trolled a few months back, and then CCP nerfed forges despite you saying they shouldn't be? Priceless. So says the coward too afraid to run whose own ego is probably far more inflated than anyone else in this thread. Some master of politics you are, I doubt you can sway any votes and I would recon you are more likely to get yourself a ban for general jack hattery than getting anyone running for cpm 1 to stop running if all you can resort to is just wine tactics. Cheese bro you're cracker me up. Tell me how experienced you are at discouraging runners? I would love to hear each and minute detail on how you stopped dozen or so folks from running for cpm?
Stop trying to make this about me, it's not. Enjoy fading back into irrelevancy with jenza when you're not elected to CPM1.
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MoonEagle A wrote:If she was so horrible, I am sure CCP would discourage her from running.
Whoever runs, I hope there is at least one female still on the board. There are increasing numbers of females playing. Unfortunately I think it's harder for females though. We tend to not have as thick skin as males and males want to immediately talk smack about how we got in by sleeping with someone or stupid immature comments get said about how we look.
Thanks Jenza for all you did and continue to do!
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jenza aranda wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:jenza aranda wrote:Aaroniero d'Lioncourt wrote:Just a quick question. Do you guys get paid? the only payment we get is satisfaction and love from the community! Quote:There are also some of us females that went to college for Computer Science with 300 guys and 7 girls. Bring it boys! Twisted Though I have to admit its not so much thick skin as it is just willing to sit in the mud and sling poop around like a 4 year old. Only certain days am I willing to sink down to that level and laugh about it, however I'm happy to say most days I don't have to as I play with plenty of level headed guys. I was one of those females :P When you get your boat please post a picture of it. My partners dad lives on one and may I suggest you name your boat the HMS jenzas pants lol Also my partner was on Rosie and Jim and she should never have told me because I posted the link on Fb hahahahaha. Oh i totally intend to get a photo! not before i have it painted however :) I'm still looking for a suitable boat and i intend to give it a eve/dust like name with a paintjob to go with it :) I LOVED rosie and jim as a child! I saw this fantastic boat on sale recently called Ros+¬ and Gin :P
Haha banging
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:
Stop trying to make this about me, it's not. Enjoy fading back into irrelevancy with jenza when you're not elected to CPM1.
FG didnt need a nerf right? Lmfao you're a joke
Well I sorry, it seemed the nerf separated the men from boys as good AVers are still killing HAVs and ADS with it. Tell me again why not the nerf?
And it is about you and your little personal crusade to stop people from running, stop being selfish for once and stop being a jack hat.
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Mithridates VI
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As someone who will absolutely admit to having trashed jenza when it was politically convenient and has had no shortage of disagreement with IWS, I would endorse either of them for CPM1, along with the rest of CPM0. None of their detractors have even the barest level of visibility over what they've been doing. It's possible to get an idea of this without breaching their NDA, but none of you have even tried.
Put together an argument based on fact, rather than "they've done nothing" which is plainly false to anyone who has interacted with them or paid attention to CCP, and maybe I'll listen to your whining a little more.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.05 19:55:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:
Stop trying to make this about me, it's not. Enjoy fading back into irrelevancy with jenza when you're not elected to CPM1.
FG didnt need a nerf right? Lmfao you're a joke
Well I sorry, it seemed the nerf separated the men from boys as good AVers are still killing HAVs and ADS with it. Tell me again why not the nerf? And it is about you and your little personal crusade to stop people from running, stop being selfish for once and stop being a jack hat.
It's about bettering the community by getting rid of irrelevant CPMs who dont understand balance.
FG was too OP vs infantry, and it was nerfed and now it's not. You said it was just fine and would lobby for it not to be nerfed. How'd that work out for you? |
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:
Stop trying to make this about me, it's not. Enjoy fading back into irrelevancy with jenza when you're not elected to CPM1.
FG didnt need a nerf right? Lmfao you're a joke
Well I sorry, it seemed the nerf separated the men from boys as good AVers are still killing HAVs and ADS with it. Tell me again why not the nerf? And it is about you and your little personal crusade to stop people from running, stop being selfish for once and stop being a jack hat.
Amusingly I'd say you were probably more popular not as a CPM, just because your posts were way more frequent and lengthy, so you had better exposure without asshats like the above giving you **** just because you're CPM
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Mithridates VI wrote:As someone who will absolutely admit to having trashed jenza when it was politically convenient and has had no shortage of disagreement with IWS, I would endorse either of them for CPM1, along with the rest of CPM0. None of their detractors have even the barest level of visibility over what they've been doing. It's possible to get an idea of this without breaching their NDA, but none of you have even tried.
Put together an argument based on fact, rather than "they've done nothing" which is plainly false to anyone who has interacted with them or paid attention to CCP, and maybe I'll listen to your whining a little more.
They disappeared for half a year with zero contact. You're right what a great CPM sign her up |
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Posted - 2014.01.05 19:57:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:As someone who will absolutely admit to having trashed jenza when it was politically convenient and has had no shortage of disagreement with IWS, I would endorse either of them for CPM1, along with the rest of CPM0. None of their detractors have even the barest level of visibility over what they've been doing. It's possible to get an idea of this without breaching their NDA, but none of you have even tried.
Put together an argument based on fact, rather than "they've done nothing" which is plainly false to anyone who has interacted with them or paid attention to CCP, and maybe I'll listen to your whining a little more. They disappeared for half a year with zero contact. You're right what a great CPM sign her up
What dates? Where did they go? You seem fully briefed on the facts of this matter, so fork 'em over.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:01:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:As someone who will absolutely admit to having trashed jenza when it was politically convenient and has had no shortage of disagreement with IWS, I would endorse either of them for CPM1, along with the rest of CPM0. None of their detractors have even the barest level of visibility over what they've been doing. It's possible to get an idea of this without breaching their NDA, but none of you have even tried.
Put together an argument based on fact, rather than "they've done nothing" which is plainly false to anyone who has interacted with them or paid attention to CCP, and maybe I'll listen to your whining a little more. They disappeared for half a year with zero contact. You're right what a great CPM sign her up What dates? Where did they go? You seem fully briefed on the facts of this matter, so fork 'em over.
Won't name names but I guarantee this is legit, even IWS won't deny it. Jenza was also banned for personally attacking me while she was on the CPM. I really hope she does run so I can make a topic showing all of this to the community. |
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Because, y'know, it sounds like given limited time you would prefer that CPM members post on the forums to assuage your fears and miss meetings with CCP, rather than the other way around, which doesn't really seem like a good use of their time, considering as that describes every other forum poster ever.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Mithridates VI
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:personally attacking me
I forgot about that. That tidbit might actually swing my vote to her.
You should be her campaign manager.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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The Furtive Pygmy
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Mithridates VI wrote:Because, y'know, it sounds like given limited time you would prefer that CPM members post on the forums to assuage your fears and miss meetings with CCP, rather than the other way around, which doesn't really seem like a good use of their time, considering as that describes every other forum poster ever.
Except she wasn't even in contact with CCP for six months. Anyone on the CPM can confirm this. Nice try kiddo. |
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Because, y'know, it sounds like given limited time you would prefer that CPM members post on the forums to assuage your fears and miss meetings with CCP, rather than the other way around, which doesn't really seem like a good use of their time, considering as that describes every other forum poster ever. Except she wasn't even in contact with CCP for six months. Anyone on the CPM can confirm this. Nice try kiddo.
Total radio silence was it? Source?
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:11:00 -
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And Ironwolf did the same? You said "they disappeared".
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:12:00 -
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[quote=Anyone on the CPM can confirm this. Nice try kiddo. [/quote]
Who In their Right Minds Would Want To Confirm Stuff For You
All You Do Is Hate on sick babys
Try to defend yourself on a stupid forum
and trash talk but then turn down challenges
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:12:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Because, y'know, it sounds like given limited time you would prefer that CPM members post on the forums to assuage your fears and miss meetings with CCP, rather than the other way around, which doesn't really seem like a good use of their time, considering as that describes every other forum poster ever. Except she wasn't even in contact with CCP for six months. Anyone on the CPM can confirm this. Nice try kiddo. Total radio silence was it? Source?
I have too much respect to drag names into this. Either take my word for it or dont, it doesn't matter to me. The fact IWS won't refute it and instead.says 'DURR ITS SET UP FOR THAT' should be proof enough.
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:14:00 -
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I didn't much care for Jenza's approach to CPM. As a player, I've only seen her behind the red line in rail tanks. Fine whatever.
But also, I;ve never seens one good post by her advocating the benefit of this game. it's always her gleefully collecting tears for this or that.
Then there was the advent of PC. All I remember form that is seeing a video Kujo put up demonstrating her team AWOXing, him slaughtering her int he video (chuckle) and her team still losing! Fun stuff. Could have been fun. But she was mean and skeezy about it.
And then this bomb dropped.
People who behave like this just rub me the wrong way. I don't like snitches, and that is me personally. But to go out and get footage removed and ingratiating herself to CCP, then getting a CPM seat, and then trying to find footage after she spent her own free time having other people's removed? IT's just lame.
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:15:00 -
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So I should take your word for it except that you're happy to allege that "they disappeared for half a year with zero contact." when you mean "one of them did"? I imagine you've have left that up there if it hadn't been challenged.
Interesting display of credibility.
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:17:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Another important thing I wanted to address is that many people have been saying "vote me for scout CPM!" or tanks or heavies ect... this mentality WILL NOT WORK. A CPM is expected to have first hand experience on every aspect of play and cannot be seen advocating only for their class, this is largely done by the self policing nature of the CPM.
even though im not running for cpm, but this is why I am a jack of all trades and I love all aspects of the game and only QQ if I see something isn't right or something made me mad
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The Furtive Pygmy
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:18:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:So I should take your word for it except that you're happy to allege that "they disappeared for half a year with zero contact." when you mean "one of them did"? I imagine you've have left that up there if it hadn't been challenged.
Interesting display of credibility.
They, as in her, as in jenza. Learn reading comprehension and this wouldn't be an issue. |
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:18:00 -
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Refute what? Busy with cpm things.
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:19:00 -
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mollerz wrote:I didn't much care for Jenza's approach to CPM. As a player, I've only seen her behind the red line in rail tanks. Fine whatever. But also, I've never seen one good post by her advocating the benefit of this game. it's always her gleefully collecting tears for this or that. Then there was the advent of PC. All I remember form that is seeing a video Kujo put up demonstrating her team AWOXing, him slaughtering her int he video (chuckle) and her team still losing! Fun stuff. Could have been fun. But she was mean and skeezy about it. And then this bomb dropped.People who behave like this just rub me the wrong way. I don't like snitches, and that is me personally. But to go out and get footage removed and ingratiating herself to CCP, then getting a CPM seat, and then trying to find footage after she spent her own free time having other people's removed? It's just lame.
Great post as to why she is not fit for CPM1, let alone CPM0
Sorry jenza, it's just not gonna happen. Enjoy irrelevancy! |
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CCP Saberwing wrote:jenza has been great to work with since I've come in, and I have nothing but good things to say for all of the current members of the CPM. They've been putting in more time and effort than you can imagine. :)
no russian CPM
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:22:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:So I should take your word for it except that you're happy to allege that "they disappeared for half a year with zero contact." when you mean "one of them did"? I imagine you've have left that up there if it hadn't been challenged.
Interesting display of credibility. They, as in her, as in jenza. Learn reading comprehension and this wouldn't be an issue.
Oh, in response to a post in which I use "they" to refer to the CPM, you intended "they" to suddenly refer only to one specific member? Nice use of English, sport.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:24:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:mollerz wrote:I didn't much care for Jenza's approach to CPM. As a player, I've only seen her behind the red line in rail tanks. Fine whatever. But also, I've never seen one good post by her advocating the benefit of this game. it's always her gleefully collecting tears for this or that. Then there was the advent of PC. All I remember form that is seeing a video Kujo put up demonstrating her team AWOXing, him slaughtering her int he video (chuckle) and her team still losing! Fun stuff. Could have been fun. But she was mean and skeezy about it. And then this bomb dropped.People who behave like this just rub me the wrong way. I don't like snitches, and that is me personally. But to go out and get footage removed and ingratiating herself to CCP, then getting a CPM seat, and then trying to find footage after she spent her own free time having other people's removed? It's just lame. Great post as to why she is not fit for CPM1, let alone CPM0 Sorry jenza, it's just not gonna happen. Enjoy irrelevancy!
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Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:27:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:So I should take your word for it except that you're happy to allege that "they disappeared for half a year with zero contact." when you mean "one of them did"? I imagine you've have left that up there if it hadn't been challenged.
Interesting display of credibility. They, as in her, as in jenza. Learn reading comprehension and this wouldn't be an issue. Oh, in response to a post in which I use "they" to refer to the CPM, you intended "they" to suddenly refer only to one specific member? Nice use of English, sport.
If you read my earlier posts you'd know.who I was referring to. Nice reading comprehension little guy! |
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:29:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:If you read my earlier posts you'd know.who I was referring to. Nice reading comprehension little guy!
That isn't how conversation works. The subject isn't determined based on some garbage you said earlier.
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ladwar
Death by Disassociation
Legacy Rising
1966
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:30:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:mollerz wrote:I didn't much care for Jenza's approach to CPM. As a player, I've only seen her behind the red line in rail tanks. Fine whatever. But also, I've never seen one good post by her advocating the benefit of this game. it's always her gleefully collecting tears for this or that. Then there was the advent of PC. All I remember form that is seeing a video Kujo put up demonstrating her team AWOXing, him slaughtering her int he video (chuckle) and her team still losing! Fun stuff. Could have been fun. But she was mean and skeezy about it. And then this bomb dropped.People who behave like this just rub me the wrong way. I don't like snitches, and that is me personally. But to go out and get footage removed and ingratiating herself to CCP, then getting a CPM seat, and then trying to find footage after she spent her own free time having other people's removed? It's just lame. Great post as to why she is not fit for CPM1, let alone CPM0 Sorry jenza, it's just not gonna happen. Enjoy irrelevancy!
between her, IWS and a certain youtuber, its not hard to see why the forums are on going endless wars. there are others, but hey i don't that much time to write a full back story on it all.
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
2649
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:30:00 -
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I think this thread has been properly derailed now, thanks for that!
This thread was simply supposed to be advice for the next lot and to try and discourage some of the idiots from applying.
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:31:00 -
[129] - Quote
Its Not derailed until i do it
Iv'e Been ignorant on deez forums before it was cool-Soulja Ghostface
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The Furtive Pygmy
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:35:00 -
[130] - Quote
Mithridates VI wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:If you read my earlier posts you'd know.who I was referring to. Nice reading comprehension little guy! That isn't how conversation works. The subject isn't determined based on some garbage you said earlier.
Actually it is, if you walk in mid conversation you're not going to understand what the pronouns being used are referencing to, so either read earlier posts or shut up, your choice. |
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:36:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:If you read my earlier posts you'd know.who I was referring to. Nice reading comprehension little guy! That isn't how conversation works. The subject isn't determined based on some garbage you said earlier. Actually it is, if you walk in mid conversation you're not going to understand what the pronouns being used are referencing to, so either read earlier posts or shut up, your choice.
Sorry, when I said "that" I meant the CPM. You should have read earlier posts rather than the one I was replying to.
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The Furtive Pygmy
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:37:00 -
[132] - Quote
jenza aranda wrote:I think this thread has been properly derailed now, thanks for that!
This thread was simply supposed to be advice for the next lot and to try and discourage some of the idiots from applying.
Your thinly veiled attempt to make good with the community after you vanished for six months was derailed?
My bad. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:38:00 -
[133] - Quote
The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:If you read my earlier posts you'd know.who I was referring to. Nice reading comprehension little guy! That isn't how conversation works. The subject isn't determined based on some garbage you said earlier. Actually it is, if you walk in mid conversation you're not going to understand what the pronouns being used are referencing to, so either read earlier posts or shut up, your choice.
cept when I quote you 6 months from now.
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Mithridates VI
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:38:00 -
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Pygmy's argument is that pronouns are set at the start of a conversation and then never change. This is the person we are supposed to trust to judge the CPM.
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The Furtive Pygmy
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Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:38:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:If you read my earlier posts you'd know.who I was referring to. Nice reading comprehension little guy! That isn't how conversation works. The subject isn't determined based on some garbage you said earlier. Actually it is, if you walk in mid conversation you're not going to understand what the pronouns being used are referencing to, so either read earlier posts or shut up, your choice. Sorry, when I said "that" I meant the CPM. You should have read earlier posts rather than the one I was replying to.
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:43:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:If you read my earlier posts you'd know.who I was referring to. Nice reading comprehension little guy! That isn't how conversation works. The subject isn't determined based on some garbage you said earlier. Actually it is, if you walk in mid conversation you're not going to understand what the pronouns being used are referencing to, so either read earlier posts or shut up, your choice. Sorry, when I said "that" I meant the CPM. You should have read earlier posts rather than the one I was replying to. When I said 'you', I meant your mother, please stop replying to posts that aren't directed to you
Well...
Nope, you've got me there.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:44:00 -
[137] - Quote
The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:If you read my earlier posts you'd know.who I was referring to. Nice reading comprehension little guy! That isn't how conversation works. The subject isn't determined based on some garbage you said earlier. Actually it is, if you walk in mid conversation you're not going to understand what the pronouns being used are referencing to, so either read earlier posts or shut up, your choice. Sorry, when I said "that" I meant the CPM. You should have read earlier posts rather than the one I was replying to. When I said 'you', I meant your mother, please stop replying to posts that aren't directed to you
Post with your main. Coward. Or wait is he banned?
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jenza aranda
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:44:00 -
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forget about him mith, ironwolf, this is King Cobrahs alt, he has some strange vendetta against me.
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DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:46:00 -
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mollerz wrote:
People who behave like this just rub me the wrong way. I don't like snitches, and that is me personally. But to go out and get footage removed and ingratiating herself to CCP, then getting a CPM seat, and then trying to find footage after she spent her own free time having other people's removed? It's just lame.
WTH? Actually most of the good closed beta citizens reported youtube vids. If you think that Dust is broken now, well you haven't played it back then. It was ugly, glitchy as hell and totally didn't sell this game to anyone, especially not in that crap "filmed with my mobile phone" quality most of them were done. Most vets (even IMPS) reported at least one or two videos.
As to why she asked for old footage? That footage is still under an NDA (forever and ever until CCP says it isn't) and she stated a few post later that she needs it for CPM stuff (CCP may not have a runnable build of 1.0 anymore)
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:49:00 -
[140] - Quote
I hate my alt-o-meter sometimes.
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:50:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:mollerz wrote:
People who behave like this just rub me the wrong way. I don't like snitches, and that is me personally. But to go out and get footage removed and ingratiating herself to CCP, then getting a CPM seat, and then trying to find footage after she spent her own free time having other people's removed? It's just lame.
WTH? Actually most of the good closed beta citizens reported youtube vids. If you think that Dust is broken now, well you haven't played it back then. It was ugly, glitchy as hell and totally didn't sell this game to anyone, especially not in that crap "filmed with my mobile phone" quality most of them were done. Most vets (even IMPS) reported at least one or two videos. As to why she asked for old footage? That footage is still under an NDA (forever and ever until CCP says it isn't) and she stated a few post later that she needs it for CPM stuff (CCP may not have a runnable build of 1.0 anymore)
Case in point Pidgey.
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The Furtive Pygmy
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.05 21:12:00 -
[142] - Quote
jenza aranda wrote:forget about him mith, ironwolf, this is King Cobrahs alt, he has some strange vendetta against me.
You ****** with the wrong person and now are receiving the eternal backlash
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Posted - 2014.01.05 21:19:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:jenza aranda wrote:forget about him mith, ironwolf, this is King Cobrahs alt, he has some strange vendetta against me. You ****** with the wrong person and now are receiving the eternal backlash I hope this is a lesson learned that you shouldn't shittalk people in a public forum.
Quoting for posterity. Hopefully this "THIS IS REVENGE" outburst makes it clear how seriously he should be taken.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1945
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Posted - 2014.01.05 21:21:00 -
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I find it hilarious people make alts so they feel comfortable saying precisely what they want. I really don't understand it and can only assume they are actually scared........of a forum.
Eye of the tiger furgative, you are ace.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1945
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Posted - 2014.01.05 21:22:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:jenza aranda wrote:forget about him mith, ironwolf, this is King Cobrahs alt, he has some strange vendetta against me. You ****** with the wrong person and now are receiving the eternal backlash I hope this is a lesson learned that you shouldn't shittalk people in a public forum.
I think you simply underestimate how insignificant and petty what you are saying actually is.
You are fun to troll though, don't get ya Jimmy jams in a twist now hahaha.
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.05 21:35:00 -
[146] - Quote
Mithridates VI wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:jenza aranda wrote:forget about him mith, ironwolf, this is King Cobrahs alt, he has some strange vendetta against me. You ****** with the wrong person and now are receiving the eternal backlash I hope this is a lesson learned that you shouldn't shittalk people in a public forum. Quoting for posterity. Hopefully this "THIS IS REVENGE" outburst makes it clear how seriously he should be taken.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1945
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Posted - 2014.01.05 21:36:00 -
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Sorry didn't quite catch that mate lol.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
1592
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Posted - 2014.01.05 22:14:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:mollerz wrote:
People who behave like this just rub me the wrong way. I don't like snitches, and that is me personally. But to go out and get footage removed and ingratiating herself to CCP, then getting a CPM seat, and then trying to find footage after she spent her own free time having other people's removed? It's just lame.
WTH? Actually most of the good closed beta citizens reported youtube vids. If you think that Dust is broken now, well you haven't played it back then. It was ugly, glitchy as hell and totally didn't sell this game to anyone, especially not in that crap "filmed with my mobile phone" quality most of them were done. Most vets (even IMPS) reported at least one or two videos. As to why she asked for old footage? That footage is still under an NDA (forever and ever until CCP says it isn't) and she stated a few post later that she needs it for CPM stuff (CCP may not have a runnable build of 1.0 anymore)
I've had a character since closed beta. I just didn't post much here until a bit later in builds. As an eve subber, I had gotten the code right away. It was so glitchy back then I came back a few months after building my toon.
I understand people helped CCP by reporting NDA breaking uploads of gameplay, but I don't see anyone else making a thread like that. I don't really care to outline what's wrong with her attitude as a whole in that thread, but I'm betting anyone with sense can put 2 and 2 together for themselves.
@Jenza, I am not trying to derail your thread personally, but I do want any prospective CPM hopeful to know who is giving them advice, and to maybe have a perspective of why they may be giving it to them.
@IWS- I would vote you back in. I remember the thread you started addressing everything that was missing from Dust. I felt you had an amazing grasp of the game and where it was at, and what would be cool to make it really shine in the future. I think that is exactly what us players should look for in our elected CPMs. You might not remember, but I defended you in a thread when a player was demanding all kinds of things of you as if you were basically getting paid by him (that's how it was coming off directed at you). I am not trying to be a jerk, and I've had some good interactions with other CPMs.. like Nova Knife. I even tried to put a bounty on him.. but us Scouts couldn't find him in game :) So I am not trying to be a jerk.
I just want to see this game finally move in a good direction at a better pace.
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sabre prime
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
10
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Posted - 2014.01.05 22:26:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:
The task that is put before the council is a job in every sense of the word. You will wake up at god awful hours for meetings after spending a most of the night preparing for that meeting. You will find your free time slipping away and time with family and friends having to be rescheduled so you can accomplish the tasks at hand.
If you lack the fortitude this job will grind you into the dirt until there is nothing left but an empty husk, so take a hard look and yourself and be honest about deciding if you are ready for what this job requires.
Does it pay a salary then? You know if its going to grind us down. Just asking.
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Posted - 2014.01.05 22:29:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:Does it pay a salary then? You know if its going to grind us down. Just asking.
No, it's just going to grind you down for free. That's why the position is for the masochistically optimistic.
The position is a cure for optimism.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2014.01.05 22:39:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:Kain Spero wrote:
The task that is put before the council is a job in every sense of the word. You will wake up at god awful hours for meetings after spending a most of the night preparing for that meeting. You will find your free time slipping away and time with family and friends having to be rescheduled so you can accomplish the tasks at hand.
If you lack the fortitude this job will grind you into the dirt until there is nothing left but an empty husk, so take a hard look and yourself and be honest about deciding if you are ready for what this job requires.
Does it pay a salary then? You know if its going to grind us down. Just asking.
Nope.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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XofCitoac
Axis of Chaos
2
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Posted - 2014.01.05 23:08:00 -
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I Nominate "CaoticFox" CEO of "Axis of Chaos"... closed beta vet, rate 9/10 morals, 7/10 troll, 3/10 temper, 10/10 opinion vocalization... LOVES & HATES this game, and TRULY WANTS it to succeed.
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
2657
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Posted - 2014.01.06 01:00:00 -
[153] - Quote
XofCitoac wrote:I Nominate "CaoticFox" CEO of "Axis of Chaos"... closed beta vet, rate 9/10 morals, 7/10 troll, 3/10 temper, 10/10 opinion vocalization... LOVES & HATES this game, and TRULY WANTS it to succeed.
currently banned from forums and unable to campaign personally.
cant say i have ever really heard of him...
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Cryius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
31
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jenza aranda wrote:XofCitoac wrote:I Nominate "CaoticFox" CEO of "Axis of Chaos"... closed beta vet, rate 9/10 morals, 7/10 troll, 3/10 temper, 10/10 opinion vocalization... LOVES & HATES this game, and TRULY WANTS it to succeed.
currently banned from forums and unable to campaign personally. cant say i have ever really heard of him...
can't say i have ever really heard anything about you, other than your pants.
I'll make love to your cat if its wet
If not make me a sandwich and it better be good and while your at it get me a beer
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2387
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Posted - 2014.01.06 03:38:00 -
[155] - Quote
Mithridates VI wrote:
The position is a cure for optimism.
Best. Line. Ever.
I'm still optimistic though. I guess have a more difficult case to cure then most.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
759
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Posted - 2014.01.06 03:50:00 -
[156] - Quote
Mithridates VI wrote:I would recommend that anyone seriously considering putting their name forward for CPM join the IRC and interact with the current CPM and devs who pass by there to get a more realistic picture of what's happening that the typical "jenza hasn't adequately defended my particular playstyle; impeach! impeach!" mentality.
How do I do this? Which IRC channel?
Munch
Dedicated Sniper.
Minmatar Patriot (6).
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
880
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Posted - 2014.01.06 03:50:00 -
[157] - Quote
Vote for me and I'll ensure the dominance of Planetside 2 over Dust!
Uprising 1.7 - TANKDOMINATION!!1!!1!
LOL Commando
LOL Plasma Cannon
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Mithridates VI
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2555
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Posted - 2014.01.06 03:51:00 -
[158] - Quote
Poonmunch wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:I would recommend that anyone seriously considering putting their name forward for CPM join the IRC and interact with the current CPM and devs who pass by there to get a more realistic picture of what's happening that the typical "jenza hasn't adequately defended my particular playstyle; impeach! impeach!" mentality. How do I do this? Which IRC channel? Munch
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1519642#post1519642
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
759
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Posted - 2014.01.06 04:19:00 -
[159] - Quote
Mithridates VI wrote:Poonmunch wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:I would recommend that anyone seriously considering putting their name forward for CPM join the IRC and interact with the current CPM and devs who pass by there to get a more realistic picture of what's happening that the typical "jenza hasn't adequately defended my particular playstyle; impeach! impeach!" mentality. How do I do this? Which IRC channel? Munch https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1519642#post1519642
Thanks.
Munch
Dedicated Sniper.
Minmatar Patriot (6).
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
2257
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Posted - 2014.01.06 04:36:00 -
[160] - Quote
I should be CPM, tbh.....CCP needs the proper perspective.
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
1717
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:32:00 -
[161] - Quote
Mithridates VI wrote:sabre prime wrote:Does it pay a salary then? You know if its going to grind us down. Just asking. No, it's just going to grind you down for free. That's why the position is for the masochistically optimistic. The position is a cure for optimism.
Hey! That's spot on me!
Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1287
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:35:00 -
[162] - Quote
jenza aranda wrote: sanity check
I see exposure to the development process has altered your conciousness.
"We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
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XEROO COOL
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
328
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:43:00 -
[163] - Quote
Free Beers wrote:jenza aranda wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:+1 for the info Jenza. I really want to know why the current CPM thinks the next one will have it worse - i know, i know, NDA.
Is there anything NDA-safe you can tell us about that? Worse in what sense? Honestly i shouldnt even be saying its going to be worse but i cant help but say it to keep my conscience clear and make sure that they had some kind of warning. I really can't say why but I can say with near certainty its going to be harder and worse than the time we had. The other thing people need to know is that it super hard to actually talk to players about things because of NDA. I could have a 5 minute conversation with kain or hans and hear "I can't say beers" 10 times. So end up just leaving them what i think on skype, which again they cant really give me a response too. The most I ever get from the cpm is to make a thread to get responses so they can point it out to ccp. A lot of what the cpm does has nothing to do with working with players to solve issues. Thats why its super important not to elect a bunch of fking morons which is likely to happen. So that means we aren't electing you? lol I had to. Couldn't help it.
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
1717
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:44:00 -
[164] - Quote
Anarchide's CPM1 Skills list:
"I want to help make the game better": Level 5
Dedication: Level 5
******-up schedule: Level 5
"Can I stand the hate?": Level 5
NDA: Level 5
Trolling Level: 
Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
1717
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Posted - 2014.01.10 17:01:00 -
[165] - Quote
I also possess the arcane ability to kill threads just by posting in them.
Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
2743
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Posted - 2014.01.10 17:03:00 -
[166] - Quote
Anarchide wrote:I also possess the arcane ability to kill threads just by posting in them.
very important for CPM ness!
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
96
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Posted - 2014.01.10 17:18:00 -
[167] - Quote
Thanks for the advice, jenza. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2629
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:01:00 -
[168] - Quote
You and this game deserve one another Jenza. You should definitely be appointed for every CPM. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2422
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:12:00 -
[169] - Quote
Talks about what it takes to be CPM
Was MIA most of last year and talks about still trying to be CPM to spite people
Real classy
Im not drunk, the planet just happens to be especially wobbly today.
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jamstar saa187
the third day
Public Disorder.
63
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:15:00 -
[170] - Quote
jenza aranda wrote:forget about him mith, ironwolf, this is King Cobrahs alt, he has some strange vendetta against me.
so i went through all of these threads, and apart from the main theory of 'CPM is about as rewarding as first prize in a poop scooping contest, so apply with caution' the only thing i learned was:
cowards thug-post using their alts and replying to a troll only makes the troll feel stronger....... until his real identity is revealed, then he disappears as if he was a vampire bathed in sun for the first time.
so the moral of the story,: if u end up being on CPM1, dont feed the trolls! (it will only lead to more troll-foolery) |
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Beld Errmon
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
1221
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:40:00 -
[171] - Quote
I hope you run Jenza, i'd hate to think you let the lady hating neckbeards get to you, theres much better reasons to dislike you for like when you'd drop into the asia server and mass drivered my partner and I into a cold fury, my partner hasn't played in months and he still frowns at the mention of your name :D |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
2745
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:42:00 -
[172] - Quote
Beld Errmon wrote:I hope you run Jenza, i'd hate to think you let the lady hating neckbeards get to you, theres much better reasons to dislike you for like when you'd drop into the asia server and mass drivered my partner and I into a cold fury, my partner hasn't played in months and he still frowns at the mention of your name :D
you have no idea how much this made me laugh XD
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5450
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:49:00 -
[173] - Quote
Beld Errmon wrote:I hope you run Jenza, i'd hate to think you let the lady hating neckbeards get to you, theres much better reasons to dislike you for like when you'd drop into the asia server and mass drivered my partner and I into a cold fury, my partner hasn't played in months and he still frowns at the mention of your name :D
JENZA IS A FOTM USER!
SHE SHOULDN'T RUN FOR CPM CUZ OF THAT!
GRRR HURR DURR
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
2044
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:53:00 -
[174] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:I hope you run Jenza, i'd hate to think you let the lady hating neckbeards get to you, theres much better reasons to dislike you for like when you'd drop into the asia server and mass drivered my partner and I into a cold fury, my partner hasn't played in months and he still frowns at the mention of your name :D JENZA IS A FOTM USER! SHE SHOULDN'T RUN FOR CPM CUZ OF THAT! GRRR HURR DURR
Are you running for CPM? So far hyenakiller stated 'cat merc for CPM'
I stated that your ideas are pure sht to try to make you give it your all but iv seen nothing yet. Its probably best you don't run yet and properly think about it.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
1717
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:59:00 -
[175] - Quote
Just use a red dot if things gets out of control.
Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
1717
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:02:00 -
[176] - Quote
...or just shake a bag of cat treats.
Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2130
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:26:00 -
[177] - Quote
Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Ask yourselves this - "have I already been doing the work of a CPM as much as I can without insider access?" If the answer is no, don't run.
Yes, but the people who have been doing the work of a CPM as much as they can without insider access might not want to give up the work they have been doing to devote all their time to being a real CPM. The people who have been doing the work of a CPM without the insider access realize just how much work it is and how much of a time commitment is involved.
I expect it will come down to voting for someone who looks like they wonGÇÖt cave when they realize what they got themselves into.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
2746
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:32:00 -
[178] - Quote
Fox Gaden wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Ask yourselves this - "have I already been doing the work of a CPM as much as I can without insider access?" If the answer is no, don't run. Yes, but the people who have been doing the work of a CPM as much as they can without insider access might not want to give up the work they have been doing to devote all their time to being a real CPM. The people who have been doing the work of a CPM without the insider access realize just how much work it is and how much of a time commitment is involved. I expect it will come down to voting for someone who looks like they wonGÇÖt cave when they realize what they got themselves into.
this is very true, luckilly one or two of these people have stuck their hands up and it will be them that i vote for.
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2130
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:50:00 -
[179] - Quote
The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Just so everyone is aware, jenza disappeared for six months with absolutely zero contact
This is her desperate attempt to try and get back public opinion for a CPM1 run
I dare you to campaign, I will personally make sure you're crippled with expert forum warrioring and mudslinging.
With the amount of work involved in being CPM there is a good chance that most of them will GÇ£disappearGÇ¥ within a few months of taking the job, as their CPM responsibilities start to take over they life.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2130
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:52:00 -
[180] - Quote
jenza aranda wrote:Honestly I havnt even decided if I want to run because I know about the shitstorm to come for CPM1, thats why no one else on the CPM want to reapply.
I would really like to see at least one CPM0 in CPM1 for continuities sake and to get the rest of CPM1 up to speed faster. Since none of the other CPM0 seem to be even considering it, I really hope you run jenza.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
2750
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:20:00 -
[181] - Quote
Fox Gaden wrote:jenza aranda wrote:Honestly I havnt even decided if I want to run because I know about the shitstorm to come for CPM1, thats why no one else on the CPM want to reapply. I would really like to see at least one CPM0 in CPM1 for continuities sake and to get the rest of CPM1 up to speed faster. Since none of the other CPM0 seem to be even considering it, I really hope you run jenza.
I appreciate the sentiments, thanks. I'll wait a bit to see who else sticks their hand up before making a decision.
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
Legacy Rising
62
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:22:00 -
[182] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:jenza has been great to work with since I've come in, and I have nothing but good things to say for all of the current members of the CPM. They've been putting in more time and effort than you can imagine. :)
The questions is what they've been putting time into. I've seen some CPM members push for changes made to the game that were frankly unecessary.The first thing that comes my mind was screwing with the swarm launcher lock on duration. I remember thinking why they hell would they focus on this. I personnally don't like the game being tailored by the tastes of a few. CCP ought to just make a solid plan for the year with set goals rather than 'lets develop this new patch without deadlines, design first and balance later, using advice from players with a vested interest in thier personal style of play''
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
2044
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:26:00 -
[183] - Quote
Tesfa Alem wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:jenza has been great to work with since I've come in, and I have nothing but good things to say for all of the current members of the CPM. They've been putting in more time and effort than you can imagine. :) The questions is what they've been putting time into. I've seen some CPM members push for changes made to the game that were frankly unecessary.The first thing that comes my mind was screwing with the swarm launcher lock on duration. I remember thinking why they hell would they focus on this. I personnally don't like the game being tailored by the tastes of a few. CCP ought to just make a solid plan for the year with set goals rather than 'lets develop this new patch without deadlines, design first and balance later, using advice from players with a vested interest in thier personal style of play''
There's bias points of view (yours) then theres well informed and experienced bias points of view. What appears to be more acceptable?
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2134
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:26:00 -
[184] - Quote
jenza aranda wrote:I think this thread has been properly derailed now, thanks for that!
This thread was simply supposed to be advice for the next lot and to try and discourage some of the idiots from applying.
And now half the community wants you to run again just to **** off The Furtive Pygmy....
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
2046
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:30:00 -
[185] - Quote
Fox Gaden wrote:jenza aranda wrote:I think this thread has been properly derailed now, thanks for that!
This thread was simply supposed to be advice for the next lot and to try and discourage some of the idiots from applying. And now half the community wants you to run again just to **** off The Furtive Pygmy....
Do they though? What kind of sad gimp would want someone in just to be a spiteful little sht? Lol
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2135
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:43:00 -
[186] - Quote
TechMechMeds wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:jenza aranda wrote:I think this thread has been properly derailed now, thanks for that!
This thread was simply supposed to be advice for the next lot and to try and discourage some of the idiots from applying. And now half the community wants you to run again just to **** off The Furtive Pygmy.... Do they though? What kind of sad gimp would want someone in just to be a spiteful little sht? Lol
It was a joke. 
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
2046
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:48:00 -
[187] - Quote
Fox Gaden wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:jenza aranda wrote:I think this thread has been properly derailed now, thanks for that!
This thread was simply supposed to be advice for the next lot and to try and discourage some of the idiots from applying. And now half the community wants you to run again just to **** off The Furtive Pygmy.... Do they though? What kind of sad gimp would want someone in just to be a spiteful little sht? Lol It was a joke.
Oh, hard to tell considering where we are, I'm sorry.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
Legacy Rising
62
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:51:00 -
[188] - Quote
TechMechMeds wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:jenza has been great to work with since I've come in, and I have nothing but good things to say for all of the current members of the CPM. They've been putting in more time and effort than you can imagine. :) The questions is what they've been putting time into. I've seen some CPM members push for changes made to the game that were frankly unecessary.The first thing that comes my mind was screwing with the swarm launcher lock on duration. I remember thinking why they hell would they focus on this. I personnally don't like the game being tailored by the tastes of a few. CCP ought to just make a solid plan for the year with set goals rather than 'lets develop this new patch without deadlines, design first and balance later, using advice from players with a vested interest in thier personal style of play'' There's bias points of view (yours) then theres well informed and experienced bias points of view. What appears to be more acceptable? Edit: and most of what you put there is a hype.
Really? Like Jenza not being seen or heard anywhere untill after taking credit for pushing for freindly fire FW?? I'm sure that was an issue taking precedent on the minds of dust players .Or , like Heinrich admitted, the CPM gtting all of thier personal suggestions for Suit bonuses? Must have tons of playerbase feed back on that one. Wait there was none.
Most of it is backed up by reading up on the forums, especially around patch time and watching thier videos.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
2046
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:54:00 -
[189] - Quote
Tesfa Alem wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:jenza has been great to work with since I've come in, and I have nothing but good things to say for all of the current members of the CPM. They've been putting in more time and effort than you can imagine. :) The questions is what they've been putting time into. I've seen some CPM members push for changes made to the game that were frankly unecessary.The first thing that comes my mind was screwing with the swarm launcher lock on duration. I remember thinking why they hell would they focus on this. I personnally don't like the game being tailored by the tastes of a few. CCP ought to just make a solid plan for the year with set goals rather than 'lets develop this new patch without deadlines, design first and balance later, using advice from players with a vested interest in thier personal style of play'' There's bias points of view (yours) then theres well informed and experienced bias points of view. What appears to be more acceptable? Edit: and most of what you put there is a hype. Really? Like Jenza not being seen or heard anywhere untill after taking credit for pushing for freindly fire FW?? I'm sure that was an issue taking precedent on the minds of dust players .Or , like Heinrich admitted, the CPM gtting all of thier personal suggestions for Suit bonuses? Must have tons of playerbase feed back on that one. Wait there was none. Most of it is backed up by reading up on the forums, especially around patch time and watching thier videos.
So you just so happen to miss everything she has done and assumed she'd done nothing?
Whose in the wrong here? Stop hyping over rumours and ignorance.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
795
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Posted - 2014.01.12 08:11:00 -
[190] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:I don't get the point of CPM. It's supposed to be a bridge between devs and community but the bridge is broken because of NDA. Seems like CPM is mostly a popularity pageant. The big problem is that CCP doesn't have boots-on-the-ground experience with their own game on live servers. For instance, CCP devs aren't allowed to play in PC. And I don't think the game engine will let them spectate as of current. So the important part is the CPM can convey what players see and realistically contend with to CCP, who's often basing their decisions on their internal test servers otherwise. Ideally, the CPM should have some ability to relay back to players and assist with community relations, but that depends on how lose the NDA is. DUST's NDA is held over people a lot more strictly than EVE, I think. We generally have more of an idea what CCP wants to do in the future from a broad sense compared to DUST.
If what you are saying is true that CCP can't monitor their own game, it's doomed.
Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
2776
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Posted - 2014.01.12 09:49:00 -
[191] - Quote
CCP do monitor the forums quite closely.
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Lorhak Gannarsein
1180
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Posted - 2014.01.12 10:52:00 -
[192] - Quote
VOTE 1
MITHRIDATES VI
FOR
CPM1!!
Soraya Xel wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:I don't get the point of CPM. It's supposed to be a bridge between devs and community but the bridge is broken because of NDA. Seems like CPM is mostly a popularity pageant. The big problem is that CCP doesn't have boots-on-the-ground experience with their own game on live servers. For instance, CCP devs aren't allowed to play in PC. And I don't think the game engine will let them spectate as of current. So the important part is the CPM can convey what players see and realistically contend with to CCP, who's often basing their decisions on their internal test servers otherwise. Ideally, the CPM should have some ability to relay back to players and assist with community relations, but that depends on how lose the NDA is. DUST's NDA is held over people a lot more strictly than EVE, I think. We generally have more of an idea what CCP wants to do in the future from a broad sense compared to DUST.
I couldn't tell you precisely which dev it was (though I think it was either CCP Pacifier or CCP Saberwing), but I was, among others, chatting with them ingame, and they commented that they had been a member of an active PC corp on their private alt.
I don't think it's reasonable to assume that simply because they're not permitted to enter PC on their main characters, they can't play it at all.
Ludvig Enraga wrote:If what you are saying is true that CCP can't monitor their own game, it's doomed.
I also thought that everything was monitored quite closely? Numerically, that is. In the sense that they can tell how much usage of a particular weapon is spiking, how many HAVs called/destroyed, things like that.
PRO tanker and proud.
Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD)
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trollface dot jpg
The Bacon Corporation
118
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Posted - 2014.01.12 10:57:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:To those who are not going to run but still going to vote, the most important thing you must understand is that having a good personality doesn't necessarily mean that person is a good CPM, conversely being a troll doesn't necessarily make you a bad CPM. A perfect example of this would be The Mitanni, the CEO of goonswarm. He is basically the biggest troll in the new eden universe in charge of a massive troll alliance however he was one of the most productive chairman that the CSM has ever had, love him or hate him, this much is a fact.
For this reason, I vote for ReGnYuM. One of the trolliest people in the game since Mr. Z (excluding myself of course ) left as well as one of the most inventive posters in the forums. Like his attitude or not, like his ideas or not, when he makes a serious post about something it has real content in it. Solid ideas, solid arguments, and an overwhelming amount of in-game experience backing them up. (IIRC, he's been here since pre-Replication and in every build has held one of the highest K/D's of any assault player)
Reggy for CPM1!!!!
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trollface dot jpg wrote:jenza aranda wrote:To those who are not going to run but still going to vote, the most important thing you must understand is that having a good personality doesn't necessarily mean that person is a good CPM, conversely being a troll doesn't necessarily make you a bad CPM. A perfect example of this would be The Mitanni, the CEO of goonswarm. He is basically the biggest troll in the new eden universe in charge of a massive troll alliance however he was one of the most productive chairman that the CSM has ever had, love him or hate him, this much is a fact. For this reason, I vote for ReGnYuM. One of the trolliest people in the game since Mr. Z (excluding myself of course ) left as well as one of the most inventive posters in the forums. Like his attitude or not, like his ideas or not, when he makes a serious post about something it has real content in it. Solid ideas, solid arguments, and an overwhelming amount of in-game experience backing them up. (IIRC, he's been here since pre-Replication and in every build has held one of the highest K/D's of any assault player) Reggy for CPM1!!!!
too young. If its anything like CSM you will need to be over 18
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jenza aranda wrote:trollface dot jpg wrote:jenza aranda wrote:To those who are not going to run but still going to vote, the most important thing you must understand is that having a good personality doesn't necessarily mean that person is a good CPM, conversely being a troll doesn't necessarily make you a bad CPM. A perfect example of this would be The Mitanni, the CEO of goonswarm. He is basically the biggest troll in the new eden universe in charge of a massive troll alliance however he was one of the most productive chairman that the CSM has ever had, love him or hate him, this much is a fact. For this reason, I vote for ReGnYuM. One of the trolliest people in the game since Mr. Z (excluding myself of course ) left as well as one of the most inventive posters in the forums. Like his attitude or not, like his ideas or not, when he makes a serious post about something it has real content in it. Solid ideas, solid arguments, and an overwhelming amount of in-game experience backing them up. (IIRC, he's been here since pre-Replication and in every build has held one of the highest K/D's of any assault player) Reggy for CPM1!!!! too young. If its anything like CSM you will need to be over 18
The CSM rule is actually 21. It was moved up from 18 at some point for whatever reason. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM#Candidate_Eligibility
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