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jenza aranda BetaMax. 2750	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:20:00 - [181] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: jenza aranda wrote: Honestly I havnt even decided if I want to run because I know about the shitstorm to come for CPM1, thats why no one else on the CPM want to reapply. I would really like to see at least one CPM0 in CPM1 for continuities sake and to get the rest of CPM1 up to speed faster. Since none of the other CPM0 seem to be even considering it, I really hope you run jenza. I appreciate the sentiments, thanks. I'll wait a bit to see who else sticks their hand up before making a decision. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising 62	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:22:00 - [182] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: jenza has been great to work with since I've come in, and I have nothing but good things to say for all of the current members of the CPM. They've been putting in more time and effort than you can imagine. :) The questions is what they've been putting time into. I've seen some CPM members push for changes made to the game that were frankly unecessary.The first thing that comes my mind was screwing with the swarm launcher lock on duration. I remember thinking why they hell would they focus on this. I personnally don't like the game being tailored by the tastes of a few. CCP ought to just make a solid plan for the year with set goals rather than 'lets develop this new patch without deadlines, design first and balance later, using advice from players with a vested interest in thier personal style of play'' Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2044	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:26:00 - [183] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: jenza has been great to work with since I've come in, and I have nothing but good things to say for all of the current members of the CPM. They've been putting in more time and effort than you can imagine. :) The questions is what they've been putting time into. I've seen some CPM members push for changes made to the game that were frankly unecessary.The first thing that comes my mind was screwing with the swarm launcher lock on duration. I remember thinking why they hell would they focus on this. I personnally don't like the game being tailored by the tastes of a few. CCP ought to just make a solid plan for the year with set goals rather than 'lets develop this new patch without deadlines, design first and balance later, using advice from players with a vested interest in thier personal style of play'' There's bias points of view (yours) then theres well informed and experienced bias points of view. What appears to be more acceptable? Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2134	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:26:00 - [184] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: I think this thread has been properly derailed now, thanks for that! This thread was simply supposed to be advice for the next lot and to try and discourage some of the idiots from applying. And now half the community wants you to run again just to **** off The Furtive Pygmy.... Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2046	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:30:00 - [185] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: jenza aranda wrote: I think this thread has been properly derailed now, thanks for that! This thread was simply supposed to be advice for the next lot and to try and discourage some of the idiots from applying. And now half the community wants you to run again just to **** off The Furtive Pygmy.... Do they though? What kind of sad gimp would want someone in just to be a spiteful little sht? Lol Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2135	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:43:00 - [186] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: jenza aranda wrote: I think this thread has been properly derailed now, thanks for that! This thread was simply supposed to be advice for the next lot and to try and discourage some of the idiots from applying. And now half the community wants you to run again just to **** off The Furtive Pygmy.... Do they though? What kind of sad gimp would want someone in just to be a spiteful little sht? Lol It was a joke. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2046	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:48:00 - [187] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: jenza aranda wrote: I think this thread has been properly derailed now, thanks for that! This thread was simply supposed to be advice for the next lot and to try and discourage some of the idiots from applying. And now half the community wants you to run again just to **** off The Furtive Pygmy.... Do they though? What kind of sad gimp would want someone in just to be a spiteful little sht? Lol It was a joke. Oh, hard to tell considering where we are, I'm sorry. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising 62	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:51:00 - [188] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: jenza has been great to work with since I've come in, and I have nothing but good things to say for all of the current members of the CPM. They've been putting in more time and effort than you can imagine. :) The questions is what they've been putting time into. I've seen some CPM members push for changes made to the game that were frankly unecessary.The first thing that comes my mind was screwing with the swarm launcher lock on duration. I remember thinking why they hell would they focus on this. I personnally don't like the game being tailored by the tastes of a few. CCP ought to just make a solid plan for the year with set goals rather than 'lets develop this new patch without deadlines, design first and balance later, using advice from players with a vested interest in thier personal style of play'' There's bias points of view (yours) then theres well informed and experienced bias points of view. What appears to be more acceptable? Edit: and most of what you put there is a hype. Really? Like Jenza not being seen or heard anywhere untill after taking credit for pushing for freindly fire FW?? I'm sure that was an issue taking precedent on the minds of dust players .Or , like Heinrich admitted, the CPM gtting all of thier personal suggestions for Suit bonuses? Must have tons of playerbase feed back on that one. Wait there was none. Most of it is backed up by reading up on the forums, especially around patch time and watching thier videos. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2046	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:54:00 - [189] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: jenza has been great to work with since I've come in, and I have nothing but good things to say for all of the current members of the CPM. They've been putting in more time and effort than you can imagine. :) The questions is what they've been putting time into. I've seen some CPM members push for changes made to the game that were frankly unecessary.The first thing that comes my mind was screwing with the swarm launcher lock on duration. I remember thinking why they hell would they focus on this. I personnally don't like the game being tailored by the tastes of a few. CCP ought to just make a solid plan for the year with set goals rather than 'lets develop this new patch without deadlines, design first and balance later, using advice from players with a vested interest in thier personal style of play'' There's bias points of view (yours) then theres well informed and experienced bias points of view. What appears to be more acceptable? Edit: and most of what you put there is a hype. Really? Like Jenza not being seen or heard anywhere untill after taking credit for pushing for freindly fire FW?? I'm sure that was an issue taking precedent on the minds of dust players .Or , like Heinrich admitted, the CPM gtting all of thier personal suggestions for Suit bonuses? Must have tons of playerbase feed back on that one. Wait there was none. Most of it is backed up by reading up on the forums, especially around patch time and watching thier videos. So you just so happen to miss everything she has done and assumed she'd done nothing? Whose in the wrong here? Stop hyping over rumours and ignorance. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 795	Posted - 2014.01.12 08:11:00 - [190] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: I don't get the point of CPM. It's supposed to be a bridge between devs and community but the bridge is broken because of NDA. Seems like CPM is mostly a popularity pageant. The big problem is that CCP doesn't have boots-on-the-ground experience with their own game on live servers. For instance, CCP devs aren't allowed to play in PC. And I don't think the game engine will let them spectate as of current. So the important part is the CPM can convey what players see and realistically contend with to CCP, who's often basing their decisions on their internal test servers otherwise. Ideally, the CPM should have some ability to relay back to players and assist with community relations, but that depends on how lose the NDA is. DUST's NDA is held over people a lot more strictly than EVE, I think. We generally have more of an idea what CCP wants to do in the future from a broad sense compared to DUST. If what you are saying is true that CCP can't monitor their own game, it's doomed. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!

jenza aranda BetaMax. 2776	Posted - 2014.01.12 09:49:00 - [191] - Quote CCP do monitor the forums quite closely. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Lorhak Gannarsein 1180	Posted - 2014.01.12 10:52:00 - [192] - Quote VOTE 1 MITHRIDATES VI FOR CPM1!! Soraya Xel wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: I don't get the point of CPM. It's supposed to be a bridge between devs and community but the bridge is broken because of NDA. Seems like CPM is mostly a popularity pageant. The big problem is that CCP doesn't have boots-on-the-ground experience with their own game on live servers. For instance, CCP devs aren't allowed to play in PC. And I don't think the game engine will let them spectate as of current. So the important part is the CPM can convey what players see and realistically contend with to CCP, who's often basing their decisions on their internal test servers otherwise. Ideally, the CPM should have some ability to relay back to players and assist with community relations, but that depends on how lose the NDA is. DUST's NDA is held over people a lot more strictly than EVE, I think. We generally have more of an idea what CCP wants to do in the future from a broad sense compared to DUST. I couldn't tell you precisely which dev it was (though I think it was either CCP Pacifier or CCP Saberwing), but I was, among others, chatting with them ingame, and they commented that they had been a member of an active PC corp on their private alt. I don't think it's reasonable to assume that simply because they're not permitted to enter PC on their main characters, they can't play it at all. Ludvig Enraga wrote: If what you are saying is true that CCP can't monitor their own game, it's doomed. I also thought that everything was monitored quite closely? Numerically, that is. In the sense that they can tell how much usage of a particular weapon is spiking, how many HAVs called/destroyed, things like that. PRO tanker and proud. Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD)
trollface dot jpg The Bacon Corporation 118	Posted - 2014.01.12 10:57:00 - [193] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: To those who are not going to run but still going to vote, the most important thing you must understand is that having a good personality doesn't necessarily mean that person is a good CPM, conversely being a troll doesn't necessarily make you a bad CPM. A perfect example of this would be The Mitanni, the CEO of goonswarm. He is basically the biggest troll in the new eden universe in charge of a massive troll alliance however he was one of the most productive chairman that the CSM has ever had, love him or hate him, this much is a fact. For this reason, I vote for ReGnYuM. One of the trolliest people in the game since Mr. Z (excluding myself of course ) left as well as one of the most inventive posters in the forums. Like his attitude or not, like his ideas or not, when he makes a serious post about something it has real content in it. Solid ideas, solid arguments, and an overwhelming amount of in-game experience backing them up. (IIRC, he's been here since pre-Replication and in every build has held one of the highest K/D's of any assault player) Reggy for CPM1!!!! My other Alt is your mom.
jenza aranda BetaMax. 2780	Posted - 2014.01.12 11:07:00 - [194] - Quote trollface dot jpg wrote: jenza aranda wrote: To those who are not going to run but still going to vote, the most important thing you must understand is that having a good personality doesn't necessarily mean that person is a good CPM, conversely being a troll doesn't necessarily make you a bad CPM. A perfect example of this would be The Mitanni, the CEO of goonswarm. He is basically the biggest troll in the new eden universe in charge of a massive troll alliance however he was one of the most productive chairman that the CSM has ever had, love him or hate him, this much is a fact. For this reason, I vote for ReGnYuM. One of the trolliest people in the game since Mr. Z (excluding myself of course ) left as well as one of the most inventive posters in the forums. Like his attitude or not, like his ideas or not, when he makes a serious post about something it has real content in it. Solid ideas, solid arguments, and an overwhelming amount of in-game experience backing them up. (IIRC, he's been here since pre-Replication and in every build has held one of the highest K/D's of any assault player) Reggy for CPM1!!!! too young. If its anything like CSM you will need to be over 18 Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 832	Posted - 2014.01.12 12:06:00 - [195] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: trollface dot jpg wrote: jenza aranda wrote: To those who are not going to run but still going to vote, the most important thing you must understand is that having a good personality doesn't necessarily mean that person is a good CPM, conversely being a troll doesn't necessarily make you a bad CPM. A perfect example of this would be The Mitanni, the CEO of goonswarm. He is basically the biggest troll in the new eden universe in charge of a massive troll alliance however he was one of the most productive chairman that the CSM has ever had, love him or hate him, this much is a fact. For this reason, I vote for ReGnYuM. One of the trolliest people in the game since Mr. Z (excluding myself of course ) left as well as one of the most inventive posters in the forums. Like his attitude or not, like his ideas or not, when he makes a serious post about something it has real content in it. Solid ideas, solid arguments, and an overwhelming amount of in-game experience backing them up. (IIRC, he's been here since pre-Replication and in every build has held one of the highest K/D's of any assault player) Reggy for CPM1!!!! too young. If its anything like CSM you will need to be over 18 The CSM rule is actually 21. It was moved up from 18 at some point for whatever reason. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM#Candidate_Eligibility ROFL PC Coordinator Fix framerate by 1.8 Pony


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