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Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.03 20:11:00 -
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I would like to clear something up here.
Even an all out PC war will not keep players from pub matches. As a member of Ancient Exiles., I got to see this first hand during the P5/RA war. PC in its current state is not complicated enough to occupy players' full attention.
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Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1111
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Posted - 2014.02.03 20:42:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:I would like to clear something up here.
Even an all out PC war will not keep players from pub matches. As a member of Ancient Exiles., I got to see this first hand during the P5/RA war. PC in its current state is not complicated enough to occupy players' full attention. I agree. Then you should give up your districts you don't have time to give your full attention to. If you did that then what you say would be true. Sadly AE's ego and want for isk > any real moral justification. I don't blame you for locking districts as PC is terrible design, but trying to justify it more than a simple "We are doing it" is lame.
As I am not in the leadership of AE, I cannot speak on their behalf as far as motivation for locking districts or giving up any. What I do know is that up until this, AE has not locked their districts from threats and has taken the risk of losing them. This game should never be about charity or making everything fair. It should be about giving everyone the same opportunity and allowing them to make of it what they will. This isnt little league, everyone doesnt get a participation trophy.
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Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.03 20:58:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Everyone shouldn't get a participation trophy, no. The problem I see with PC, though, is it isn't rewarding gameplay skill. It's rewarding exploits. He who finds the bug in CCP's design first wins. Whether it be melee glitching or district locking. PC should reward those with the most skill at playing the game on a roughly balanced ground. This isn't a fault of any group of players, it's the fault of CCP providing a poor environment for competition.
Shouldnt that be the responsibility of the CPM though? To make sure that these glitches or exploits are fixed as soon as possible or before they even make it to release?
PC is a part of this game and I dont believe it should be discounted. Fixed? Yes but not written off as a place of only glitchers and exploiters.
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Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:03:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Free Beers wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:I would like to clear something up here.
Even an all out PC war will not keep players from pub matches. As a member of Ancient Exiles., I got to see this first hand during the P5/RA war. PC in its current state is not complicated enough to occupy players' full attention. I agree. Then you should give up your districts you don't have time to give your full attention to. If you did that then what you say would be true. Sadly AE's ego and want for isk > any real moral justification. I don't blame you for locking districts as PC is terrible design, but trying to justify it more than a simple "We are doing it" is lame. As I am not in the leadership of AE, I cannot speak on their behalf as far as motivation for locking districts or giving up any. What I do know is that up until this, AE has not locked their districts from threats and has taken the risk of losing them. This game should never be about charity or making everything fair. It should be about giving everyone the same opportunity and allowing them to make of it what they will. This isnt little league, everyone doesnt get a participation trophy. So wait let me get this straight. Your corp locks its districts to farm passive isk and you are talking about participation trophies when its your corp that said "Alright we can't defend all these timers and have fun attacking so lets just settle for the participation isk trophy instead" Please stop posting you are making my AE buddies look bad and you should feel bad.
Neither my corp nor I have said what you are quoting. If you insist on trying to put words in my mouth to try to get a rise out of me then we might as well end this conversation now. You can post as much as you want and about whatever you want but, until it actually has some relevant point of debate, it isnt worth responding to. If you have a beef with AE, I suggest you take it up with Kujo, Matt, Soul and the other directors.
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Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1114
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:13:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:
Soul's a Director? Kujo, MJ420 and Zaria I thought were.
Soul was but he has stepped down. He still is involved in the leadership to an extent.
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Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1114
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:36:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:
Neither my corp nor I have said what you are quoting. If you insist on trying to put words in my mouth to try to get a rise out of me then we might as well end this conversation now. You can post as much as you want and about whatever you want but, until it actually has some relevant point of debate, it isnt worth responding to. If you have a beef with AE, I suggest you take it up with Kujo, Matt, Soul and the other directors.
AE are my buds and It's obvious I know about whats going on then you do. As such, I'm allowed to chastise them, it's what I do. You should really stop trying to justify it because there isn't one that is acceptable to anyone. PC is what it is these days and we all know it. Trying to make any excuse just makes you look bad.
Then good luck what that. Its obvious we have nothing left to discuss then.
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Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1115
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:35:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Free Beers wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:
Neither my corp nor I have said what you are quoting. If you insist on trying to put words in my mouth to try to get a rise out of me then we might as well end this conversation now. You can post as much as you want and about whatever you want but, until it actually has some relevant point of debate, it isnt worth responding to. If you have a beef with AE, I suggest you take it up with Kujo, Matt, Soul and the other directors.
AE are my buds and It's obvious I know about whats going on then you do. As such, I'm allowed to chastise them, it's what I do. You should really stop trying to justify it because there isn't one that is acceptable to anyone. PC is what it is these days and we all know it. Trying to make any excuse just makes you look bad. Then good luck what that. Its obvious we have nothing left to discuss then. Did you not read the corp email telling you not to post anymore? #JustSaying
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Try harder
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Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1116
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:02:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I guess I'm hosting the interim War Room in here, for the moment. I guess I appreciate the free thread bumps. ;)
Appologies for that. Was just someone trying to spread misinformation to troll your thread. I promise my part in it is over and done with.
And you are welcome ;)
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