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Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 287	Posted - 2014.01.03 14:40:00 - [1] - Quote Weren't you the one pushing for friendly-fire in FW? ... don't look for my vote in CPM1. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 287	Posted - 2014.01.03 14:43:00 - [2] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Carebear alert. That's it, you caught me, I'm a carebear playing a game that is currently exclusively PvP oriented. Edit: And will most likely be exclusively PvP for many more months. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 287	Posted - 2014.01.03 14:59:00 - [3] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Why do you not like friendly fire? Random blueberries blapping people then needling them, blapping them again, needling again, etc. etc. Also, it doesn't add anything to FW except have someone else decide you should be banned because they tried to furiously mate with your grenade. On paper, I bet it sounded like a very good idea. In practice, it is **** and the topmost reason I don't queue up for FW. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 287	Posted - 2014.01.03 15:08:00 - [4] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Are you sure you are not just being a soft cupcake a blowing it out of proportion? Yes. Proportionally, I'm giving FW friendly-fire an appropriate amount of **. TechMechMeds wrote:** All I play is fw Gal/Min FW I'm guessing. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 288	Posted - 2014.01.03 15:42:00 - [5] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Yes and have done since it was implemented but I have an alt rolling passive sp to help the caldari scum out but they seem beyond it. So let me get this straight, you are asking me if I'm being a cupcake while you roll with Gal/Min, who are destroying 8 out of 10 matches in FW... Talk to me when you have played Caldari/Amarr for nearly a month. You will be living in public contracts too. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 288	Posted - 2014.01.03 16:01:00 - [6] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: It used to be this way for min and gal you numpty, I'm guessing you are a fresh newb, talk to me when you have played for a year. Since when? 1.7 launched FW 2.0; which is when FW actually began to matter and was distinguishable from pub matches in any real way. 1.7 was launched on December 10th, 2013... Not even a month ago. So tell me again when Min/Gal got served in FW? Before 1.7? Who gives a flying **** about FW pre-1.7? It's not like FW had any real rewards for Dust mercs then. Also, what qualifies someone as a newb? Less than a mil SP? Still in academy? Lifetime WP? K/d ratio? Let's put it this way: I made my character the day Uprising 1.0 was released. If memory serves that is early May 2013. So I've been actively playing Dust for 8 months. I would not call myself a veteran, but I'm not a newb. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 288	Posted - 2014.01.03 16:32:00 - [7] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: I was fighting for Minmatar and Gallente back when FW was basically a pub match that was tenuously tied to Eve Online. That somehow makes me right and you wrong! You've explained how you aren't a new player at all, but that doesn't serve my argument so I'm ignoring that! LALALA Can't hear you! LALALA! Excuse me, I'll be joining a Gal/Min FW match mostly AFK for some LPs before school. jenza aranda wrote: The original system that evolved to what it is today was my idea. Why don't you like friendly fire in FW? For starers... It breaks my immersion a bit when I consider that in FW your bullets actually hurt other mercs; meanwhile, in public contracts those same bullets don't. Friendly fire necessitates a penalty that deters blueberries from rampant TK'ing. This penalty has to be applied to everyone who TK's regardless of if was an accident or not. A few blueberries dive into my squads' warbarge strike? Congrats, I earned myself a 24 hour banning for helping my team capture B. Friendly fire works jenza aranda wrote: The reason i pushed for it is that there are many players who couldn't get into PC for friendly fire so I didn't want some players to be neglected for the chance of more complicated play. It's more complicated, but it doesn't add depth at all. It's just a massive inconvenience. I can check my line of fire every single day, but inevitably some mouth breather will sit on my grenade or chase after my MD round and I'll lose standings and/or get banned. jenza aranda wrote: The system needs some tweaking, no arguments there, but I still thing FF in FW is a good thing and you are the first person i have ever seen complain about it. I am the first person you have heard? Well, you aren't listening very well I guess. All the more reason you don't need another CPM seat. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 289	Posted - 2014.01.03 16:41:00 - [8] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Lol priceless, I probably earn more than what you earn in a month within a week. Clearly a little sprog, keep whining no one cares. Earn more... ISK? I think the phrase I'm looking for is Big ******* Deal. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 289	Posted - 2014.01.03 16:49:00 - [9] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: When i made my proposal for FF in FW, it was actually a lot more complicated than the 5 mercs kick thing and honestly would have heped, but it would have taken a very long time to implement. I dont know if they ever will give it a go but it was very good and everyone liked it. Im not sure if i can post my origional proposal here for the system but i will ask Listen, you may have had a system that was more complicated and prevented some of the various problems with FF in FW. It might have been a halfway decent system too, but let's apply Occam's razor. The simplest answer is often the most correct. In this case the simplest answer isn't a complicated system. It is to never implement FF in FW in the first place. If your stance changes, if you are ever against FF in FW, then we can revisit my vote. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 290	Posted - 2014.01.03 19:21:00 - [10] - Quote DeeJay One wrote: Can I have a dream about Concord bots intervening? At the current rate of improvement CCP should have functional AI out early to late 2015. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 290	Posted - 2014.01.03 19:39:00 - [11] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: here we go, apparently because it was my idea and they didnt end up going with it its fine for me to talk about. here was the idea ... This was a pretty decent idea actually. The "collateral" being put up every match, but refunded after the match (provided you didn't TK the entire time) strongly deters griefing... however... it still doesn't stop Captain Windowlicker from getting in the way of my warbarge strike. In fact, with this new system, if I TK'ed some idiot blueberry I would be out lots of ISK. Again, wouldn't it be easier to just admit that FF in FW was a terribad idea and remove it? "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 290	Posted - 2014.01.03 20:06:00 - [12] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: I'm sick of ** players crying about FF, I haven't been kicked yet and the majority of players I squad with have only been kicked due to silly bugs, such as CRUs spawning blues under their vehicles, killing a blue turned red vehicle, walking and suddenly getting kicked, etc. It doesn't need to be removed and adds something, it does not take away. What does it add exactly? The argument could be made that it forces teams to be more tactical and ramps up the difficulty, maybe. But that increase in difficulty goes hand-in-hand with having to deal with blueberries generally being themselves. You have played public contacts, you know what idiocy blueberries are capable of, right? At least in public contracts they will just be useless as opposed to being dangerous like in FW. It is as if CCP, with Jenza's blessings, said, "Okay, we need a way that a random new player can join a match and potentially ** things up for other players, potentially costing them the whole match without them doing anything wrong. I'm thinking friendly-fire. What do you lads think?" "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 291	Posted - 2014.01.03 21:29:00 - [13] - Quote Miku Sora wrote: Clearly you have never played eve. For almost two years actually. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley

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