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jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.01.03 08:13:00 -
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Ok firstly let me just say, I got a ps3 just for this game before this I played xbox, halo was probly my fav shooter. In halo if two guys found each other in cqc, the most likely scenario is empty as many bullets into the enemys face as possible while rushing in to finish with an elbow to the visor.
In this game its different (as it sshould be), but no one even bothers to melee, its always better to just keep shooting/reloading till things are dead. I think it would be awsome to make melee combat a bit more usefull. Atm it seems like there is only a small area where the damage is applied, as far as I'm concerned if u get within punching range in a 45degree spread u deserve to lose 200ish hp.
Is it just me or my lag? Anyone else got any thoughts? |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1767
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Posted - 2014.01.03 08:16:00 -
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If you want 600+ damage in each melee swing, go prototype Commando. Even the standard Commando is a beastly brawler, which is why everyone is afraid when it gets close. Nothing like beatin' bitches down in the A-I.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
Use the Commando A-I suit and show your worth.
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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention
660
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Posted - 2014.01.03 08:19:00 -
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The only problem with using melee is the stamina use, Stamina is precious, specially if you need to run away from your opponent... Also, really hard to hit a good blow, I done it a few times though
Tanks 514! Cheap, fast, Indestrucbible and you see tankers telling it's balanced...
Just makes you want to quit this BS
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
2020
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Posted - 2014.01.03 08:22:00 -
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Only time I use melee is when I run out of ammo. Once, I got out of my tank and this guy is trying to kill me as I go to hack. I forgot to reload from my other encounter, I fire my mag into him, he runs around a corner, I catch up and melee him in the face. Didn't kill him, he kills me, hacks my tank.
Yeah. I try to be more careful hacking now. Also, reload > melee unless the guy has 1% HP and is 2m away.
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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Import Beercase
Beer For Evil Mercs
91
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Posted - 2014.01.03 08:25:00 -
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I just had a nice Tekken experience about a week ago against a militia forge gunner. I was playing with bpo sniper fit and we shot each other few times and I started to get close. WHAM he slammed my face to pieces. I got respawned and went for a hunt. We both took out our fists and slapped each other and I finally got him down.
Kinda fun that no other player shot at us while doing our thing..
Anyway nice punches. I dont remeber the dude but I think it was something mexx somthing.
"If at first you don't succeed, mccdiving is not for you."
Snowflake in hell those are my odds in ambush
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Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
172
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Posted - 2014.01.03 10:18:00 -
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Import Beercase wrote:I just had a nice Tekken experience about a week ago against a militia forge gunner. I was playing with bpo sniper fit and we shot each other few times and I started to get close. WHAM he slammed my face to pieces. I got respawned and went for a hunt. We both took out our fists and slapped each other and I finally got him down.
Kinda fun that no other player shot at us while doing our thing..
Anyway nice punches. I dont remeber the dude but I think it was something mexx somthing. He really didn't shoot you the second time?
Damned if I can really recognise anyone on the battlefield. |
Cee Zet
Phantom Universe Task Force Die Fremdenlegion
0
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Posted - 2014.01.03 10:27:00 -
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Yeah, i`ve played a lot Halo before and i miss...
THE HAMMER!!!
It would be fantastic if you can do some Combo melee damage. On Tekken 2 i know the Combos of 3 Charakters. And sometimes (bad days, shoot down the hole day) i wish i had a charging ENERGY AXE.
Some great moves like on Bulletstorm, were you can kick away your enemy (you not have to kill them, maybe only to get time) would be very fine. Nice fights in facilitys waitin :)
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Import Beercase
Beer For Evil Mercs
91
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Posted - 2014.01.03 11:01:00 -
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Blake Kingston wrote:Import Beercase wrote:I just had a nice Tekken experience about a week ago against a militia forge gunner. I was playing with bpo sniper fit and we shot each other few times and I started to get close. WHAM he slammed my face to pieces. I got respawned and went for a hunt. We both took out our fists and slapped each other and I finally got him down.
Kinda fun that no other player shot at us while doing our thing..
Anyway nice punches. I dont remeber the dude but I think it was something mexx somthing. He really didn't shoot you the second time? Damned if I can really recognise anyone on the battlefield.
Well he shot few rounds with smg towards me and I did the same but when distance was under 15 we both just went on bloodlust.
"If at first you don't succeed, mccdiving is not for you."
Snowflake in hell those are my odds in ambush
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
663
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Posted - 2014.01.03 11:27:00 -
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you know, myofibrils give a very decent bonus. In fact its one of the few skills with a decent efficacy increase per level. and its cheap to fit (hence why Min suits have such low CPU)
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1243
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Posted - 2014.01.03 11:40:00 -
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Agree, there should be a skill tree for melee, like there is for the other weapons.
"Our Blueberries are better than yours"
My Terribad Bolas Launcher
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1426
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Posted - 2014.01.03 11:53:00 -
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Borne Velvalor wrote:Only time I use melee is when I run out of ammo. Once, I got out of my tank and this guy is trying to kill me as I go to hack. I forgot to reload from my other encounter, I fire my mag into him, he runs around a corner, I catch up and melee him in the face. Didn't kill him, he kills me, hacks my tank.
Yeah. I try to be more careful hacking now. Also, reload > melee unless the guy has 1% HP and is 2m away.
Melee is useful, when you run out of ammo. The trick is to get them while they reload, if the melee back, they cancel the reload, you don't get shot in the face.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
820
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Posted - 2014.01.03 12:48:00 -
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lololol back in closed beta i got hit by such an OP melee that i died half way from jumping from the MCC
the only time i got a proper melee kill was a few days ago some guy came from behind and we ended up shooting each other till we ran out of ammo and he's almost dead so i rushed him and melee'd him
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Leonid Tybalt
Dark Knightz Corp.
84
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Posted - 2014.01.03 13:29:00 -
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Melee is a last resort, not something that should be in standard use.
You have a gun, use it. |
jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
135
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:10:00 -
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Lately I've been running scouts / dampened suits if I don't have a shotty or knives and a red dot is hacking something right infront of me or blissfuly sniping away, I'll give em a whack first just to save ammo/overheat, it seems to be the only practical/usefull application I've found. :(
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2842
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:13:00 -
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LOL no. That tactic was good in Halo and honestly, Halo was great for people just getting into FPS MP action. But that doesn't work here in New Eden. NE is a different place. I still use melee's however, whenever I'm CQC and we both got caught reloading. I will melee you as much as possible
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
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jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
136
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:31:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:LOL no. That tactic was good in Halo and honestly, Halo was great for people just getting into FPS MP action. But that doesn't work here in New Eden. NE is a different place. I still use melee's however, whenever I'm CQC and we both got caught reloading. I will melee you as much as possible
What tactic doesn't work? Hitting and unsuspecting opponent before unloading a clip in the back of the head? I assure you it works better than NOT hitting them first... But if we both know eachothers position and you mellee rush me while I'm reloading, well yer goodluck with that. :)
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Jackof All-Trades
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
408
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:13:00 -
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I like melee how it is - it's an awesome moment killing someone with melee, and those who employ it regularly on the battlefield are awesome.
"Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2843
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:19:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:Michael Arck wrote:LOL no. That tactic was good in Halo and honestly, Halo was great for people just getting into FPS MP action. But that doesn't work here in New Eden. NE is a different place. I still use melee's however, whenever I'm CQC and we both got caught reloading. I will melee you as much as possible What tactic doesn't work? Hitting and unsuspecting opponent before unloading a clip in the back of the head? I assure you it works better than NOT hitting them first... But if we both know eachothers position and you mellee rush me while I'm reloading, well yer goodluck with that. :)
Okay, to clarify my post, in Halo you could melee away as much as you like. In fact, it was a viable tactic. Like you stated in OP, most would just fire and run straight at you just for the melee finisher.
In Dust, it doesn't work like that. The gun fights in Dust 514 are not like Halo. Melee in Dust is more of a last resort and afterthought than the scenarios in Halo.
And its not like you have shield, armor, and such to worry about. Like I said, it doesn't work when you think about it. Plus it's stupid to sneak up on a dropsuit of the future and kill it with a melee hit from the back. That's too trolly in New Eden.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
847
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:55:00 -
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Why don't you try punching a guy in body armour - see what happens... |
jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
136
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Posted - 2014.01.28 10:07:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:
That's too trolly in New Eden.
Cmon, new eden is total trollsville
Less QQ more PewPew
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jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
136
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Posted - 2014.01.28 10:19:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:Why don't you try punching a guy in body armour - see what happens...
Ok, Can i wear motorcyle gloves? The force has to go somewhere.
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Leonid Tybalt
Dark Knightz Corp.
215
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Posted - 2014.01.28 11:04:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Why don't you try punching a guy in body armour - see what happens... Ok, Can i wear motorcyle gloves? The force has to go somewhere.
Yeah, most of it will get absorbed by the armour and the glove. You won't damage the guy, you'll only push him back a little if you put your weight into the punch, but that's it. |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1924
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Posted - 2014.01.28 11:06:00 -
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2-3 of them melee mods and your gonna stomp with Melee. Try it out.
Minmatar Assault.
Hopeful Caldari Scout soon. praying for that respec.
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Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
705
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Posted - 2014.01.28 12:36:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:Ok firstly let me just say, I got a ps3 just for this game before this I played xbox, halo was probly my fav shooter. In halo if two guys found each other in cqc, the most likely scenario is empty as many bullets into the enemys face as possible while rushing in to finish with an elbow to the visor.
In this game its different (as it sshould be), but no one even bothers to melee, its always better to just keep shooting/reloading till things are dead. I think it would be awsome to make melee combat a bit more usefull. Atm it seems like there is only a small area where the damage is applied, as far as I'm concerned if u get within punching range in a 45degree spread u deserve to lose 200ish hp.
Is it just me or my lag? Anyone else got any thoughts? OK if you want a game that allows you to eat bullets then go back to halo. in this game you have to really use stealth to get a melee kill. Thats just how it is. |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen
475
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:21:00 -
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I love to melee, in my case it goes from Spartacus to EPIC FAIL within 3 seconds.
Freelance Psycho
I don't mind heavies with light weapons cause I moonwalk around them in slow motion with my shotty
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jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
136
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Posted - 2014.01.31 11:16:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:jordy mack wrote:Ok firstly let me just say, I got a ps3 just for this game before this I played xbox, halo was probly my fav shooter. In halo if two guys found each other in cqc, the most likely scenario is empty as many bullets into the enemys face as possible while rushing in to finish with an elbow to the visor.
In this game its different (as it sshould be), but no one even bothers to melee, its always better to just keep shooting/reloading till things are dead. I think it would be awsome to make melee combat a bit more usefull. Atm it seems like there is only a small area where the damage is applied, as far as I'm concerned if u get within punching range in a 45degree spread u deserve to lose 200ish hp.
Is it just me or my lag? Anyone else got any thoughts? OK if you want a game that allows you to eat bullets then go back to halo. in this game you have to really use stealth to get a melee kill. Thats just how it is.
Yer dunno if I could go back to halo now, I was more just after some tips / suggestions. I'll give N1ck and the other sugestions a go and try som myrowatevas tonight. See you on the ground mercs o7
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
239
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Posted - 2014.01.31 11:18:00 -
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I get the occasional kill with a melee attack but I agree it is way to underused and underpowered. It makes me laugh how nova knifes are their own seprate weapon class, you would think that ever merc would carry a blade and the melee attack would use said blade.
Waiting for people to shot "This isnt CoD". True, but still the melee attack is underpowered for sure.
The main problem is the Field of View in this game seems so small, it must be at like 80 deg. or so. |
HYENAKILLER X
AGGRESSIVE TYPE
530
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Posted - 2014.01.31 11:37:00 -
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You hit like a girl feel free.
You are welcome for my leadership
*Proven Aggressive Type
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Haerr
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
200
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Posted - 2014.01.31 13:02:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:i just wana puch you so hard!
I read "I just wana phuc you so hard!" then I read OP and was disappointed.
@CCP: Is the Cloaking Fields and Profile Dampeners reduction to Scan Profile stacking penalized when added together?
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2141
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Posted - 2014.01.31 13:05:00 -
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It's too bad a rear melee hit isn't a insta kill.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Hoover Damn
H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Legacy Rising
39
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:08:00 -
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Because it's not enough that we already punch harder than three (!) plasma blasts from an AR. |
NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
165
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:11:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:If you want 600+ damage in each melee swing, go prototype Commando. Even the standard Commando is a beastly brawler, which is why everyone is afraid when it gets close. Nothing like beatin' bitches down in the A-I. Without feedback, melee is being removed from the commando. Please let ccp know you want to keep the damage.
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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Thumb Green
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
712
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:30:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:2-3 of them melee mods and your gonna stomp with Melee. Try it out. Exactly.
Search on youtube, there's a video of a guy 1-hit KO'ing even full health heavies with melee.
Support Orbital Spawns
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jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
140
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Posted - 2014.02.02 11:20:00 -
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Ok so I made this:
Proto cal logi 4 adv myrofib... blue potions 1 complex shield ext 2 complex damps 2 complex kin cats Proto scanner
Roughly 300 shield 100 armor 9 m/s Under 28db
I mainly camped red cru's and rushed into rooms in some kind of suicidal rage. I one hit a proto assault early on and thought great this is gunna be a laugh, but that must have been a headshot or a freindlty sniper got an assist, because I was unable to repeat this.
I set up camp at a cru with an extremley helpful blue dot who cottoned on to what I was doing and decided to cover me/distract the newly spawned clones while I tried to them clock them over the head with my rifle.
Good fun but far from efficiant, I managed to two hit every medium suit that poped out but it was almost a suicidal strategy. I used about 15 suits to get 10 kills. Also tried hitting a corpmate in fw to test damage but apparently melee is exempt from ff. Oh well on to the next experiment... Any suggestions?
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