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Talryn Vilneram SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 116	Posted - 2014.01.02 22:28:00 - [1] - Quote Right now tanks can do everything. Want to kill infantry? Use a tank! Rail or Blaster can kill infantry just in different ways. Want to kill drop ships? Use a rail tank! (Can blaster tanks aim high enough up close?) Want to kill installations? Use a tank! Want to kill tanks? Use a tank! There really isn't much to kill on a map that a tank can't kill best. Infantry are still easier to kill with a suit weapon, but unless they have swarms or a forge, they can't kill you back. And even then, they can't you fast enough by themselves. This allows you to GTFO and take a break for awhile while you rethink your strategy and wait out your cool downs. I think AV is fine, I think tanks are fine in their current iteration except one thing. They need to be horrible at killing infantry with their main turrets. Make the efficiency against suits like 25-30%. Maybe even less. the only way you can kill a suit is if it is standing still OR if you actually fit your small guns. Buff small guns. These things are supposed to be anti-infantry, but the main turrets are better at it and you can solo in a tank. If tanks were susceptible to AV from infantry and couldn't kill them easily with their main turrets, this would force them to A) Fit small guns B) Either switch seats to use the small guns or run with squad mates. I don't think anyone disagrees that 3 guys in a tank being a powerhouse is overpowered or broken, because that makes you have 2 less suits on the ground and lets you coordinate AV to make 3 kills instead of just one. At first I was thinking nerfing turret speeds but I think that would nerf tank vs tank battles too much. I have to admit, I haven't touched tanks since Beta until 1.7. I then hopped in Militia tanks and had so much fun that I dumped SP into HAVs and turrets. Now I run Gunlogis and Madrugars as well as my Militia tanks (to keep costs down when I lose a few) and I love them. But I DO agree that they are bit much right now. I really think that if we implement the above changes it will fix the HAV problem. Come one CCP you can do this. It is easy to implement.
Talryn Vilneram SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 117	Posted - 2014.01.02 22:40:00 - [2] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Want to hack an objective? Use a ta- oh wait... That isn't killing something but yes that is the only thing you can't do unless you get out and do it which is risky.
Talryn Vilneram SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 117	Posted - 2014.01.02 22:59:00 - [3] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Talryn Vilneram wrote: Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Want to hack an objective? Use a ta- oh wait... That isn't killing something but yes that is the only thing you can't do unless you get out and do it which is risky. Yes, it isn't killing, but that isn't what you said: Talryn Vilneram wrote: Right now tanks can do everything. Tanks do not win matches. Tanks with vaguely competent infantry win matches. There are still issues with HAV balance, but they alone do not auto-win. No you are right, I was lone wolfing and was with a team that spammed tanks all match long. We lost horribly. But they are overpowered at killing. you are arguing semantics. I am trying to prove a point. I'll edit to clarify. Also, if you are playing ambush, KILLING IS EVERYTHING.
Talryn Vilneram SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 119	Posted - 2014.01.02 23:43:00 - [4] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: SVER has no problems with using Proto gear in public matches, and you, a member are complaining about tanks? No. You're complaining that you actually have to use Basic/ADV suits instead of Proto in public matches, because Proto suits are finally not-profitable, which was their design from the very start. WHAT?! Dude, what you said has NO relevance to what I am talking about. I LOVE tanks! I dumped a bunch of SP into them. But I realize they kill suits too easy. Also, I don't have the SP put into anything enough to use proto except sniper rifles and laser rifles and combat rifles. I can only use ADV minny logi suits and gallente scout suits. Everything else is spread around. Sorry to disappoint you and stay on topic. Just like in EVE we had a problem with Titan and Supercap proliferation. They got nerfed. Guess what? I am a member of Pandemic Legion one of the largest Super cap and Titan using alliances in the game. Just because I use something doesn't mean I can't realize when it needs to be nerfed or brought in line. I don't complain when things kill me.
Talryn Vilneram SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 121	Posted - 2014.01.03 01:24:00 - [5] - Quote xSynnx x wrote: Talryn Vilneram wrote: Right now tanks can kill everything....... How about instead of nerfing efficiency they add spread to blasters. Rails are kinda hard to get many infantry kills. But blasters are pinpoint accurate and rack up kills like no ones business. Add spread, then they cant hit infantry reliably but can still take out (or help, rails are still the best way to go) tanks and installations. big targets would fill the spread but infantry would be harder to hit. Just my 2 cents on tanks vs infantry. but tanks have other issues needing balanced. That is another good idea that would be easy to implement.
Talryn Vilneram SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 125	Posted - 2014.01.03 17:52:00 - [6] - Quote I think Maddys and Gunlogis are significantly better then Militia tanks. i don't think nerfing Militia tanks is the solution. I think the other ideas are better and would balance the game significantly.
Talryn Vilneram SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 156	Posted - 2014.02.01 09:01:00 - [7] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: It really seems like all your problems are in ambush. Maybe you should try skirmish or domination. No you don't understand, I'm a tanker and I think in Ambush they are stupid. They don't have a synergistic purpose with infantry like they do in Dom and Skirm where you have to have infantry hacking objectives while the tanks fight for ground supremacy. In Skirm and Dom i am normally concentrating on tanks and only trying to kill infantry when i feel safe. Except with my blaster maddy I concentrate on infantry but still keep a watch for other tanks and harden up and run when i see one and hope my rail and missile tanks can handle them.
Talryn Vilneram SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 159	Posted - 2014.02.08 20:21:00 - [8] - Quote Yeah as a dedicated tanker, having a guy with no SP in tanks doing pretty much as good as I can in my non Militia tank when I have lots of SP in tanks is pretty lame. The only real advantage I have it I can fit one more module and I have shorter cooldowns.

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