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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1543
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Posted - 2014.01.02 09:41:00 -
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You all know about it, its one of the New city sockets, it lags even with a small player count in pub games.
Its been so bad lately I'm mostly tempted to simply leave Battle when we are on that map.
I currently mostly use a CR these days and the framerate drop on this map is enough to drop my fire rate Down to half. With this burst weapon most skilled players can tap fast enough to shoot more or less continuesly, not on this map though. Its become so bad lately that I'm prcatically wielding half a gun. My fury topped itself and the QQ was enough to make me mute my mic after dying for the Fifth time to some scrub in a standard suit With a militia AR. Well this happens all the time, but mostly when from behind, me being in a reload/scan, I have a bad moment and miss or fighting others, but it almost never happens in a straight 1 vs 1 fight, especially not when I'm fireing first. I just couldn't deliver my bullets fast enough to take them Down, my gun goes: Brrr - - Brrr- -Brrr- Instead of the usual Brrr Brrr Brrr....
This map should be fixed, assuming it can be. Its bad enough in pubs, meeting an equipment spamming corp in PC and it completely breaks the game. I see high quality slayers go through a whole PC game without getting more than a handful of kills. Playing this map reminds me more of watching a slide show rather than any form of Movie I've ever seen...
Its too bad when the lag/framerate issue is the determining factor, even now after all this time, its no Wonder PC is avoided by such a large part of the community. Its gone on too long IMO, this map should simply be removed, perhaps even until the PS4 comes along.
I hope CCP will acknowlege this fact and comment upon it.
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Jason Pearson
3729
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Posted - 2014.01.02 09:42:00 -
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You're a broken map.
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ladwar
Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising
1948
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Posted - 2014.01.02 09:47:00 -
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which one?
Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet.
I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth
not looking for a corp, don't ask.
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1543
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Posted - 2014.01.02 09:50:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:You're a broken map.
I'm starting to see now why so many thinks you're a total git Jason. I've never had any beef With you, I discussed With the guys and I wanted to invite you in, this was about 2 months ago. I then get a handful of Messages from players saying they'll quit if you join simply cause they can't stand you. Perhaps you should go talk to Your mother about general conduct and how to function With other People? I dunno.
On a personal note I'd like to insult Your moronic ansver to this thread and remind you that you're a total git, coming to the forums claiming how easy AV play is and when you're challanged by me to show it to me, you come yet again With some nonsensical bs about Your standards. You talk the talk, but I've yet to see you walk the walk. In short:
Sit Down!
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1389
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Posted - 2014.01.02 09:51:00 -
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I have no idea what socket your talking about. I have never played this game and got less than 20FPS, maybe your console is old or decrepit, or both!
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1543
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Posted - 2014.01.02 09:53:00 -
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I dunno the name. Its one of the New sockets, you have B up high (or A dependant on the layout, way to go CCP!), it has an A objective underground With a resupply thingy Close by Down a side coridor.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
7325
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Posted - 2014.01.02 09:54:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:I dunno the name. Its one of the New sockets, you have B up high (or A dependant on the layout, way to go CCP!), it has an A objective underground With a resupply thingy Close by Down a side coridor.
The research facility. Yeah, that's laggy as hell. It's a shame, because when it's not it's quite a fun map.
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
2654
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Posted - 2014.01.02 09:54:00 -
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Gallente Research Facility. |
Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1389
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Posted - 2014.01.02 09:57:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:I dunno the name. Its one of the New sockets, you have B up high (or A dependant on the layout, way to go CCP!), it has an A objective underground With a resupply thingy Close by Down a side coridor.
You mean the large socket the socket set is named after, Gallante Research Facility. You and your squad are probably throwing to many grenades or youf enemy is lag bombing by supply depot.
I'll Imagine its the first.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Omareth Nasadra
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:02:00 -
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try to spam less hive and nades maybe
Minmatar, In rust we trust!!!
Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1543
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:09:00 -
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Omareth Nasadra wrote:try to spam less hive and nades maybe
FFS sake I do neither.... Sick of ret@rds like you claiming this and that about me or my corp and you have no idea how we normally play or do Things. Instead of commenting upon the problem you come With some low form of supposed to be insult. FU.
I'm not the ****** standing on a hive throwing 20 nades, I'm not the dude filling up the corridors With 72 uplinks and 52 nanohives. I mostly go solo "behind enemy lines" and hit them from the flanks. I hate using hives or any sort of Equipment cause it leads to me being discovered far too ofthen, its a neccesity due to not having endless ammo....
And blaming the players for something which is a result of bad gamedesign is hardly a good point. There is so many players I've talked to that have issues With this map, its broken.
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1543
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:14:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:KingBabar wrote:I dunno the name. Its one of the New sockets, you have B up high (or A dependant on the layout, way to go CCP!), it has an A objective underground With a resupply thingy Close by Down a side coridor. You mean the large socket the socket set is named after, Gallante Research Facility. You and your squad are probably throwing to many grenades or youf enemy is lag bombing by supply depot. I'll Imagine its the first.
Another one
1. I don't spam nades. 2. Even if I did spam nades, and this was in fact the cause of the framerate issues, then there clearly is something wrog With game design, or is the game supposed to break Down into 2 fps if someone should be sinful enough to toss a nade?
This is Your argument???? You toss a nade from time to time and therefore you deserve all the **** you get in terms of lag?
I really hope for Your sake that you are a twin my good sir.....
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Omareth Nasadra
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:16:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Omareth Nasadra wrote:try to spam less hive and nades maybe FFS sake I do neither.... Sick of ret@rds like you claiming this and that about me or my corp and you have no idea how we normally play or do Things. Instead of commenting upon the problem you come With some low form of supposed to be insult. FU. I'm not the ****** standing on a hive throwing 20 nades, I'm not the dude filling up the corridors With 72 uplinks and 52 nanohives. I mostly go solo "behind enemy lines" and hit them from the flanks. I hate using hives or any sort of Equipment cause it leads to me being discovered far too ofthen, its a neccesity due to not having endless ammo.... And blaming the players for something which is a result of bad gamedesign is hardly a good point. There is so many players I've talked to that have issues With this map, its broken. rude, seem like my troll hit ya in the ballz, didn't intend to attack ya personnally with this one, i agree the map is broken just so you know, for the rest well... FU too i guess
Minmatar, In rust we trust!!!
Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
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Zelorian Dexter snr
8thDivision
135
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:18:00 -
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The framerate on this map does suck. I find turning my settings down to low solves this |
KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1543
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:19:00 -
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Zelorian Dexter snr wrote:The framerate on this map does suck. I find turning my settings down to low solves this
My Graphics and whatnot settings are all on minimal, doesn't help at all.
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ladwar
Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising
1948
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:22:00 -
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stop hive and uplink spam... it helps. and you can delete channels and turn your voice off and limit yourself to around 200 RPM.
Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet.
I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth
not looking for a corp, don't ask.
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1543
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:26:00 -
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ladwar wrote:stop hive and uplink spam... it helps. and you can delete channels and turn your voice off and limit yourself to around 200 RPM.
Great, I already am Down to only 3 chat channels already. And turning of my voice? This is just great, sollution to bad game design:
- Don't use Equipment - Don't use nades - Make the Graphics as bad as you can - Lose Your chat channels, who needs friends anyways? - Turn off Your coms
- Now you can play whats left of the game..... which isn't much.
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DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
164
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:27:00 -
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KingBabar wrote: Its too bad when the lag/framerate issue is the determining factor, even now after all this time, its no Wonder PC is avoided by such a large part of the community. Its gone on too long IMO, this map should simply be removed, perhaps even until the PS4 comes along.
Neither the PS4 nor the PC are a magic bullet that will solve all of your performance problems. As we've seen in other games the PS3 is capable of doing nice stuff. |
DildoMcnutz
Science For Death
391
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:38:00 -
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Yep that map is f.ucked and i absolutely hate it, i still remember one of the first times i played on it and everyone in my squads framerate dropped to an absolute crawl, i remeber an orbital being dropped and getting like 1 frame per second lol. It doesn't seem as bad as when it first came out but its still pretty friggen bad. There have been a few times when the map loads up, i see its this one and then i hit leave battle and tell the guys ill go get a drink while they play this one.
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ladwar
Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising
1949
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:41:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:ladwar wrote:stop hive and uplink spam... it helps. and you can delete channels and turn your voice off and limit yourself to around 200 RPM. Great, I already am Down to only 3 chat channels already. And turning of my voice? This is just great, sollution to bad game design: - Don't use Equipment - Don't use nades - Make the Graphics as bad as you can - Lose Your chat channels, who needs friends anyways? - Turn off Your coms - Now you can play whats left of the game..... which isn't much. also don't shoot to fast and try and only play with when there is less then 15 total players for both sides. and if all else fails punch scotty so your squad is the only on in the game and not one shot a round, ever.
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I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth
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Acturus Galaxy
Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd
331
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Posted - 2014.01.02 11:21:00 -
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Wierd, I rarely get much lag in the research fascility map and absolutely love this map above all others, especially the old sniper camped maps.
Only times I do see lag in the research fascility map is when equipment are spammed all over the place, not nescessarliy concentrated around the resuply depot in the basement. In FW matches I have twice destroyed friendly equipment and lag was gone afterwards, some team mates did not approve of this and gave me a few shots in the back as I was cleaning up the mess
I am more often seeing lag on the old city map, cannot remember its name. Being a CqC scout with a shotgun I perform terrible under lag.
I think what you experience is playing on other region servers against players far away. The same happens to me when playing versus US corps and me being located in EU. I feel bad for the US players when the end up on the EU server as I feel invincible even in a cheap dragonfly scout suit winning most cqc encounters.
We desperately need info added to the match as to which region server we are connected. |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen
207
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Posted - 2014.01.02 12:01:00 -
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Speed is my lifeline as a scout. When I'm not moving in slowmotion the map is fun. What point is there to PLACING NANOCHIVES NEXT TO A SUPPLY DEPOT?
'Don't talk to stranger, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT
I will never stop killing you.
Dropship Pilot/Ninja/Sniper
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1391
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Posted - 2014.01.02 14:00:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:KingBabar wrote:I dunno the name. Its one of the New sockets, you have B up high (or A dependant on the layout, way to go CCP!), it has an A objective underground With a resupply thingy Close by Down a side coridor. You mean the large socket the socket set is named after, Gallante Research Facility. You and your squad are probably throwing to many grenades or youf enemy is lag bombing by supply depot. I'll Imagine its the first. Another one 1. I don't spam nades. 2. Even if I did spam nades, and this was in fact the cause of the framerate issues, then there clearly is something wrog With game design, or is the game supposed to break Down into 2 fps if someone should be sinful enough to toss a nade? This is Your argument???? You toss a nade from time to time and therefore you deserve all the **** you get in terms of lag? I really hope for Your sake that you are a twin my good sir.....
well you did post a video that consisted of you chop strafing and lobbing packed locus grenades. Also notice I never mentioned spam I implied you were rather liberal with there use. Also consider I provided a second possibilty.
As I also said, I have never encountered problems on that socket, which would imply its down to you and not the game. Finally I would like to point out this game is being run on a brand new engine. Its a hashed together version of Unreal and whatever they run EvE on.
No-one else has ever used this engine, it has not been optimized, it has not been improved, worked on what could be deemed a skeleton crew of developers who have never used the engine.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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castba
Penguin's March
278
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Posted - 2014.01.02 14:10:00 -
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Use a different server. Only time I experience lag (as well as abundant FoTM) is on the US server... And once on the euro server but that was months ago.
Seriously, use a server other than US (I hear Asia server is pretty average at times as well though). |
Denchlad 7
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
52
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Posted - 2014.01.02 14:20:00 -
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Oh this bloody map. It's a love hate relationship, you see. But playing the domination variant is as hard as fighting CQC with a Charge Sniper and 5 bullets. I have a fairly new console and it reduces my FPS to lower than what my 10 year old laptop does playing bloody Minecraft! Yesterday, I was in a squad when this map appeared. 2 people quit, 1 D/C'd, and the 3 of us that remained couldn't even see what was going on. For the first quarter of the match, it was okay, we managed to hold off the enemy team entirely, till we got ambushed by a group of shotgunners at that point, seeing as we had a team of new players, and they had 2 full proto squads, it all went to **** FPS wise. They spammed triage hives like crazy in the Supply Depot room, and even after eradicating 90% of them with flux nades, I and my other squad members barely got higher than 2 FPS. It was so bad I just remember seeing people running through walls through the lag I was experiencing too. Weirdly, coms were fine. But there seriously needs to be a limit on how much equipment can be placed, because this was just beyond ridiculous. I'm refusing to play any domination using this map now, sad because its actually a fun map to play.
But something needs to be for about that equipment spam. Good God it's horrendous now.
Oh, this was EU server too.
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Adapt or die.
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
421
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Posted - 2014.01.02 14:23:00 -
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It'll be fixed soon (tm)
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
6215
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Posted - 2014.01.02 14:24:00 -
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You don't know broken maps until you have tried Manus Peak.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
683
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Posted - 2014.01.02 14:27:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:You all know about it, its one of the New city sockets, it lags even with a small player count in pub games.
Its been so bad lately I'm mostly tempted to simply leave Battle when we are on that map.
I currently mostly use a CR these days and the framerate drop on this map is enough to drop my fire rate Down to half. With this burst weapon most skilled players can tap fast enough to shoot more or less continuesly, not on this map though. Its become so bad lately that I'm prcatically wielding half a gun. My fury topped itself and the QQ was enough to make me mute my mic after dying for the Fifth time to some scrub in a standard suit With a militia AR. Well this happens all the time, but mostly when from behind, me being in a reload/scan, I have a bad moment and miss or fighting others, but it almost never happens in a straight 1 vs 1 fight, especially not when I'm fireing first. I just couldn't deliver my bullets fast enough to take them Down, my gun goes: Brrr - - Brrr- -Brrr- Instead of the usual Brrr Brrr Brrr....
This map should be fixed, assuming it can be. Its bad enough in pubs, meeting an equipment spamming corp in PC and it completely breaks the game. I see high quality slayers go through a whole PC game without getting more than a handful of kills. Playing this map reminds me more of watching a slide show rather than any form of Movie I've ever seen...
Its too bad when the lag/framerate issue is the determining factor, even now after all this time, its no Wonder PC is avoided by such a large part of the community. Its gone on too long IMO, this map should simply be removed, perhaps even until the PS4 comes along.
I hope CCP will acknowlege this fact and comment upon it.
I used to love playing that map. That choking point on the objective was always a great fight. But Now i simply leave battle as soon as i see it |
Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
2439
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Posted - 2014.01.02 14:33:00 -
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It's the Research Facility, my favorite outpost... when it doesn't lag.
The position of the Supply Depot incourages equipment spam and the frame rate drops drastically.
Even if I'm enjoying the Rail Rifle lately, I mainly use the Combat Rifle as well, and I know perfectly what you're talking about.
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Kam Elto
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
161
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Posted - 2014.01.02 15:17:00 -
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It seems to only be a problem for me when that city socket is on the 5 point Spine Crescent map (D A E bridge map). When it's used on the 4 point maps like Iron Delta and Crater something or other, the lag is not there. |
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