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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2010
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:17:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:very recently. You now have a cone and a 20% boost in rate of fire. in it's optimal, the only thing's that can hope to beat you are grenades, RE's, and tanks. and two of those will only get you after you killed whatever threw them down, if you're at low health. A good Shotgun scout can still get you if they know how to dodge your fire. But they are supposed to be our hard counter, so that is a good thing. If they make a mistake they are dead though.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2010
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:23:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Reasons why the HMG is so bad is the really short range and more importantly the lack of RACIAL HEAVIES. The HMG is a minmatar weapon and is designed for close range combat, the amarr heavy just doesn't have the speed to make it effective. I'm sure that a fast minmatar heavy will make the weapon at least decent. I too look forward to the Minmatar Heavy, but I worry that it will not have enough low slots for Kinetic Catalyzers.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
2533
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:26:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:very recently. You now have a cone and a 20% boost in rate of fire. in it's optimal, the only thing's that can hope to beat you are grenades, RE's, and tanks. and two of those will only get you after you killed whatever threw them down, if you're at low health. Or a shotgun to the face. |
AAA Hellcab
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
71
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:34:00 -
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This post has just inspired me to read forum posts backwards. Happy new year! :) |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1359
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:31:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:I do 100 times better with a rifle at 4 times the range of the hmg and unlike the HMG user I can dictate my engagements were an HMG user can't.
Two words, my disgruntled fellow fattie:
Battle Segway.
It's a beautiful thing.
That said, I know you've long campaigned for the HMG to get more range. Chromosome was fattie heaven, but it seems CCP just really does not want the HMG to be as good as it once was at mid range.
Instead they gave us a monstrous toe-to-toe meat mulcher. I know it isn't what the long-time heavy players fought for, but at least the thing has a niche it can completely dominate now.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
836
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:37:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:very recently. You now have a cone and a 20% boost in rate of fire. in it's optimal, the only thing's that can hope to beat you are grenades, RE's, and tanks. and two of those will only get you after you killed whatever threw them down, if you're at low health. Or a shotgun to the face.
Really the spine. if the heavy spots you beforehand, get behind something and run. because you are not taking that fat bastard from the front.
So far things that have killed me: range, an RE that I accidentally shot as a scout threw it at me(damn you shiny object chasing part of my brain!) and one shotgun scout who snuck up on me and put three(or maybe 4? dunno, was kind of trying to kill his friends before I died got 3 of 5 under concentrated fire. I'll just take that as a net win.)
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
80
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Posted - 2014.01.02 00:01:00 -
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Apison Valusgeffen wrote:I should post this question on the Feedback/Requests channel, but I see no indication that that stuff is read or even looked at, so I'll post it here.
Devs... players... passers by rubber necking at this train wreck... ANYONE, have any inkling when the HMG will be fixed??!!?? The 2 NEW rifles have made the OLD (and STILL broken) HMG even more of a joke! I find myself less and less drawn to this game and the Heavy class into which I specced.
But what should I do, spin the roulette wheel and see which class it lands on to spec into next, only to have that class nerfed into obsolescence with the next update (nod to you AV'ers at the moment). It's truly a crap shoot which class will get hit next, and that's a gamble I'd rather not take. No, I'd rather enjoy the class that drew me to the game... the class (and weapon) into which I've invested millions of SP.
(Removes reading glasses, closes rant notes folder, and quietly steps away from the podium.) So with that said, anyone have any indication... any word at all on HMG repairs, or new heavy suits for that matter? (Don't even want to look at the rant folder on that subject right now!)
Insert logi and hug those corners. I have an Adv basic heavy with enhanced armor plates and dmg mods and with the right moves I drag down between 20-35 kills a game... |
Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
80
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Posted - 2014.01.02 00:04:00 -
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I will add I am NOT a heavy by trade and this has been a great fun diversion for the past week playing a fat man |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
270
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Posted - 2014.01.02 00:37:00 -
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Would you be considered a scrub if a Boundless Combat Rifle killed you while you wielded a HMG in CQC ???
Guess I'm a scrub because a Gali Assault killed me twice . I couldn't believe it the first time so I tried it again and the same result .
I can agree with the OP . Say what you will about getting good and all but they need to fine tune it more . There should be NO and I mean NO AR that should be able to stand toe to toe with a HMG . This guy didn't even reload so it might have been a modded controller .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Amarrgheddon
Warcaste
12
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Posted - 2014.01.02 00:42:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:very recently. You now have a cone and a 20% boost in rate of fire. in it's optimal, the only thing's that can hope to beat you are grenades, RE's, and tanks. and two of those will only get you after you killed whatever threw them down, if you're at low health.
assault combat and rail rifles are verry good at killing heavies within the heavies optimal range. |
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boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
145
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Posted - 2014.01.02 00:42:00 -
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the hmg is amazing now. even with the amarr suit its a monster of a weapon. there are several tricks for getting around faster none i care to explain =)
stop fighting people on there terms and do it on yours and you will have far more luck. |
Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
80
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Posted - 2014.01.02 00:43:00 -
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Depends, I know some gal assaults with 700 armor... combined with high ROF and a straight line you're on even footing with a STD or ADV hmg |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2923
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Posted - 2014.01.02 02:02:00 -
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Apison Valusgeffen wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:very recently. You now have a cone and a 20% boost in rate of fire. in it's optimal, the only thing's that can hope to beat you are grenades, RE's, and tanks. and two of those will only get you after you killed whatever threw them down, if you're at low health. Yes, but when did this happen? I've seen no fixes on this. I haven't been on this game as much during the holidays (combination of busy-ness and plain old apathy with the game) and when I was on I didn't even waste my time pulling out the heavy suit much. The last time I ran heavy for any substantial period of time, it was all combat and rail rifles making short work of EVERYTHING! Okay, he simply hasn't tried out the new HMG.
Faith Restored.
But seriously, they fixed the HMG dude.
Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2923
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Posted - 2014.01.02 02:06:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote: Bro do you even Heavy? Seriously though, the HMG is in a d*mn fine place right now, and if you can't kill with it you need a new suit.
You and Primium went f*cking ham earlier today.
That is, until everyone pulled out Rail Rifles
But still, that match made me glad to be a logi.
Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate
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