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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2014.01.01 02:09:00 -
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Essentially make the Charge Rifle the regular variant, it was meant to be the main caldari sniper rifle to begin with and has the spool up / lock on time which are inheritance in caldari weapons (nova knife, rail rifle, swarm launcher, etc).
Assuming we are just playing with damage in wep tiers, the skill could reduce charge times (thus we could add a longer base charge to it)
Possible damage layout,
Std- 250 dmg
Adv- 290
Pro- 321 (which is what the current one does)
Eventually we will have other "sniper rifles", like the Minmatar Sniper Rifle is the Precision Rifle, which will most likely be faster firing.
Obviously this isn't a major priority but what are your thoughts on this?
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.01 05:29:00 -
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Everyone doesn't use or like the charged sniper rifle and just because it can killshot someone , well all the sniper rifles can do the same so this doesn't need to happen . You already have a charged sniper rifle so use that and enjoy .
Everyone doesn't like or use charged weapons and that's why you don't see too many people using them , even the charge on a scrambler rifle is rarely used by people except a few so let the weapons be the way that they are and if you like charged weapons so much then place them on all of the fits you use and charge away .
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2014.01.01 05:44:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Everyone doesn't use or like the charged sniper rifle and just because it can killshot someone , well all the sniper rifles can do the same so this doesn't need to happen . You already have a charged sniper rifle so use that and enjoy .
Everyone doesn't like or use charged weapons and that's why you don't see too many people using them , even the charge on a scrambler rifle is rarely used by people except a few so let the weapons be the way that they are and if you like charged weapons so much then place them on all of the fits you use and charge away .
Fortunately, my argument wasn't based on everybody liking or using charged weapons, the criteria of "everybody" is a rather difficult metric to meet.
There will be multiple racial sniper rifles, so far we have the current "sniper rifle" and the precision rifle (yet to be released), and they will still have variations themselves, meaning if the sniper rifle was converted to a charge rifle it would still have the tac and "old standard" version of those rifles, just that the Caldari's actually racial long range rifle would be usable at different tiers.
Obviously until the other long range rifles come out, I have no issue with the current setup representing all other rifles of its class like the AR did which got modified after all 4 rifles came out.
Meaning all sniper variations would still be available to everybody, while giving the caldari their actual long range weapon
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
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Posted - 2014.01.01 06:49:00 -
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I'm not a sniper rifle user but I like the idea of making all of the Caldari sniper rifles charged variants once the other racial sniper rifles come out.... the non-charge rifles do go against the grain of standard Caldari weaponry (including rail turrets, as well).
Your scheme also seems to adjust the base damage which seems reasonable to me given the fact that the other rifles don't make much headway against some of the tougher suits on the field.... even advanced suits seem like they would be pretty hard to take down unless you are headshotting with an ADV/PRO rifle and a lot of damage mods.
Man, some of those rifles can't even take down my scout suit without any mods in shields or armor.... |
Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
950
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Posted - 2014.01.01 10:40:00 -
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Nah, Charge variant shouldn't be racial, or if it is racial it should be Amarr's thing.
Caldari should have the long-range variant, Minmatar the high-RoF variants, and Gallente the high-damage variant.
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage is more lethal.
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Outer Raven
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.01 17:42:00 -
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@OP I fully agree with your post +1. Plus it gives the charge variant a standard and advanced version which in my opinion is missing .
However I'd say this should happen once either after another race gets theirs added or all of them.
This way Dust continues to build on its racial weaponry mythos similar to what they did with the different assault rifles.
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Outer Raven
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.01 17:51:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Nah, Charge variant shouldn't be racial, or if it is racial it should be Amarr's thing.
Caldari should have the long-range variant, Minmatar the high-RoF variants, and Gallente the high-damage variant.
If you haven't realized it yet the charge version is already racial, all or most of Caldari tech has a spool up attached to it since it uses rail tech just take a look the rail rifle and other Caldari weaponry if you haven't yet. Amarr will probably have their own charge weapon but it will not be firing bullets (sniper laser rifle anyone, fires red beams of death! ).
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Ensar Cael
The Unit 514
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Posted - 2014.01.01 20:10:00 -
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Does this mean that the Gallente variant would be plasma based? Be pretty sick if you could have a charged plasma shot that has after damage on impact. Alright so I it's never going to happen, but it would be cool  |
Outer Raven
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.05 21:10:00 -
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Ensar Cael wrote:Does this mean that the Gallente variant would be plasma based? Be pretty sick if you could have a charged plasma shot that has after damage on impact. Alright so I it's never going to happen, but it would be cool
yes plasma based for Gallente
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.01.05 23:57:00 -
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Oh god please no. Charged SR and Thales SR can one shot my suit any day. Say goodbye to redline rail tanks and say hello to redline rails (sniper rifle is rail tech) |
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Outer Raven
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.06 00:02:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Oh god please no. Charged SR and Thales SR can one shot my suit any day. Say goodbye to redline rail tanks and say hello to redline rails (sniper rifle is rail tech)
The current sniper rifle is already rail tech, it just doesn't have a basic or advanced version and isn't presented as the flagship sniper rifle. I don't follow your post, please expound upon your thought.
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