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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
3052
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Posted - 2013.12.31 04:47:00 -
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Hey there,
So we know the player market will be coming SOONGäó, and that we will have the ability to manufacture items SOONGäó after. Though, what if we could not only manufacture items, but we could actually bundle them all in a fit?
The special thing about pre fits is that they come equipped with default items. For example the Black Eagle comes equipped with a shotgun and sidearm AR.
-+The i-¦dea?-+ Players would be able to manufacture items and sell them on a suit as a pre arranged fit.
-But why wouldn't people just make the fit themselves? Why buy it off of you? Because you would be able to sell it for a lower price. So a militia Caldari Medium and militia AR would normally cost you 1,185 ISK, but what if I took off 40% to give it to for only 711 ISK? That is how I make a profit and you get a discount.
So here is my question for you, the player:
If you manufactured a custom fit; 1.) what would you call it? 2.) what would it be? 3.) how much of a discount would you give?
Thank you for reading this, you're awesome. I'm Aztec. Aloha.
My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity
And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
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Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
2507
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Posted - 2013.12.31 04:54:00 -
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Bojo's Bustin' Breach
G/1 series Scout GB - 9 Breach Assault Rifle KLO-1 Scrambler Pistol Remote Explosives Complex Range Amplifier Complex CPU Upgrade Complex Range Amplifier 2 Complex Shield Extenders Flux Nades
30% Discount
Looking For: Corp
If a scout runs out of all ammunition behind enemy lines, they did something right.
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Horizen Kenpachi
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
73
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Posted - 2013.12.31 04:58:00 -
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Commando 2 novas and mlt nanohive for sharping my blades
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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Sgt Kirk
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
3901
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Posted - 2013.12.31 05:17:00 -
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Kirk's Assault Suit: Mids: Duvolle Assault Rifle Gallente Ion Pistol
Allotek Flux Grenade
Lows: Complex Armor Repair Basic Armor Plate Enhanced Armor Plate Complex Armor Plate
Highs: Complex Damage Modifier Basic Precision Enhancement Complex Drone Range Enhancement. |
Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
744
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Posted - 2013.12.31 05:33:00 -
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Yah baby,
Poonmunch Industries is pleased to announce the debut of the next generation of combat vehicle.
All you hipster guys and gals will be stylin' in the Poonmunch 3000.
It's got an Aston-Martin profile but its no rich-guy sports car.
The Poonmunch 3000 is loaded with the usual electronics you expect to see in a high end military vehicle. But there is so much more!
Like a lock, for example.
It comes with wicked custom rims and a ferroscale carbon fiber hard armoured chassis. Dual transaxle transmission and a high-end 14 cylinder nitrogen cooled large block mini-nuc power plant. It comes standard with four quad racked belt fed Ma Deuce's loaded in the back turret.
The crew is surrounded by a titanium-palladium alloy compartment 10 centimetres thick. The outer hull is a complex honeycomb shock absorber layer bonded to thermal fused reactive armour plates.
Plush red velvet seats and smoked out windows for that VIP feel. Air, tilt, cruise, GPS and park assist are standard.
And don't forget the low-rider hydraulics for when you really have to show some authority. 'Cause when this bad boy isn't killin' reds by crushing their throats, it'll be talkin' to the ladies in the hood about your obvious masculinity. With the pull of a lever you can be 2 meters off the ground, clearing obstacles and combat debris. With another pull, you are gangsta hip, ridin' 2 centimetres above the pavement.
The look is complete with a custom paint job.
The Poonmunch 3000. All the cool cats are driving 'em to the fight club.
Place your pre-orders here.
Munch
Dedicated Sniper.
Minmatar Patriot (5).
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
1858
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Posted - 2013.12.31 05:35:00 -
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I've thought about this before many times. Why sell items together for cheap when you can just sell them alone for more? You sell bulk, but most players want to make their own fittings.
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
1711
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Posted - 2013.12.31 05:46:00 -
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The Ring Bearer:
Proto Amarr Ass Proto spec scram rifle Proto Flaylock Proto quantum active scanner Proto Locus nade Proto self rep Proto armor plate x2 Proto Damage mods x3
Amarr!
Try EVE Online
Buying Deamon Shotgun
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
5191
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Posted - 2013.12.31 05:52:00 -
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Eve can do pre-fit ships through the contract system. I don't see why this sort of a system wouldn't be able to work its way into Dust.
... Right around 2017.
Never forget
How to fix the Logi
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Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
907
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Posted - 2013.12.31 06:24:00 -
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'Artificer' Gk.0 Logistics -This fit is based on my entire "thing". Don't be seen, and see everything. I enjoy playing Stealth Scout, but a Logistics does it so much better than my ADV G-Scout.
Logistics Gk.0 K5 Specialist Shotgun 3x Complex Scan Profile Dampeners 2x Enhanced Scan Range Amplifiers 2x Enhanced Scan Precision Enhancer 1x Complex Light Damage Mod 1x ADV Active Scanner 1x R9 Drop Uplinks 1x K2 Nanohive 1x F/45 Remote Explosives
~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Argent Mordred
DUST University Ivy League
53
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Posted - 2013.12.31 06:30:00 -
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Borne Velvalor wrote:I've thought about this before many times. Why sell items together for cheap when you can just sell them alone for more? You sell bulk, but most players want to make their own fittings.
Maybe they can't fit the suits the way they want using their skills, but you can with yours? |
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
5203
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Posted - 2013.12.31 06:31:00 -
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Cat Merc's Hidden Assault gk.0
Complex Profile dampener 2x enhanced plates Complex armor repairer 2x complex damage mods 1x complex shield extender GEK 38 Assault Rifle Syndicate SMG K-2 nanohive M1 Locus
Would sell at -10% discount, but if you want to buy a big sum of those I will give you a 50% discount :P
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Aqua-Regia
610
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Posted - 2013.12.31 06:49:00 -
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Aqua Tank
Just buy a militia tank and your good to go, no need to add anything on it.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
3055
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Posted - 2013.12.31 06:53:00 -
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Argent Mordred wrote: Maybe they can't fit the suits the way they want using their skills, but you can with yours?
Well Argent(tina?), I would not like it to emulate the manufacturer's skill. Mostly to avoid mechanic abuse.
Borne Velvalor wrote:I've thought about this before many times. Why sell items together for cheap when you can just sell them alone for more? You sell bulk, but most players want to make their own fittings. Alright Borne I see where you are going, but people won't pay extra for items that they can get for cheaper. The way I see it, the point is that as a manufacturer you can capitalize and make profits on items by offering cheaper versions.
As for putting them in a custom fit, well Borne it is most effective for well known Mercenaries. For example if Knifer Maken Tosch made a Nova Knife fit with his name on it, well than every guy who wants to be like him would want it.
I call this the Jordan effect. You know how Michael Jordan has his name on Basketball Sneaks? Well they sell very well and it's because people want to emulate his skill and so they try to buy any merchandise he endorses.
If you have any questions or comments, I'm here. Aloha.
Something like love, something like hope.Something like beautiful, something I wrote
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Kahn Zo
Furyan Alpha
174
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Posted - 2013.12.31 07:02:00 -
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Kahn's used Thing car lot. custome, to your specs. 1/2 price if you push it off the lot https://www.google.com/search?q=the+vw+thing&client=firefox-a&hs=AcF&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&tbm=isch&source=iu&imgil=j-gq3sHfwqWnTM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcRud6xt7xlBzxowwYKRT6bW_Gh1Q-82rDRzeHau5a5B6YGkjtKy%253B1024%253B768%253BIIMCf2mA5kusNM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fen.wikipedia.org%25252Fwiki%25252FVolkswagen_181&sa=X&ei=u2vCUvi1F4vpkAfS34BQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQ9QEwAA&biw=1175&bih=633#imgdii=_
[quote=mollerz] No no no no. I can't just fit willy nilly on my suit.[/quote]
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
1864
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Posted - 2013.12.31 20:13:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Borne Velvalor wrote:I've thought about this before many times. Why sell items together for cheap when you can just sell them alone for more? You sell bulk, but most players want to make their own fittings. Alright Borne I see where you are going, but people won't pay extra for items that they can get for cheaper. The way I see it, the point is that as a manufacturer you can capitalize and make profits on items by offering cheaper versions. As for putting them in a custom fit, well Borne it is most effective for well known Mercenaries. For example if Knifer Maken Tosch made a Nova Knife fit with his name on it, well than every guy who wants to be like him would want it. I call this the Jordan effect. You know how Michael Jordan has his name on Basketball Sneaks? Well they sell very well and it's because people want to emulate his skill and so they try to buy any merchandise he endorses. If you have any questions or comments, I'm here. Aloha. I'd use it if it existed, I suppose. Here's my fit.
BV-01 Aegis GÇô Never die to AV again! Gunnlogi Enhanced Shield Hardener Enhanced Shield Hardener Enhanced Shield Hardener Militia Blaster Ammo Expansion Militia Blaster Ammo Expansion Militia 80GJ Blaster 25% Off, 125k
AP: Perfect AV: Unhardened Only Transport: Good
Dies to anything an 80GJ Blaster can't kill, which is any hardened STD tank that you engage pretty much, provided you can't tank their damage. It's cheap and hard to kill; works nicely as I move from point to point, wipe the infantry off the map and hack. Cycle for full coverage or stack to become invulnerable for short bursts. It's cheap as hell and easy to use. The hardeners give you the potential to become invulnerable to pretty much anything to get behind enemy lines provided you're willing to deal with the cooldown; nothing stops a triple hardened Gunnlogi but multiple heavily amped proto rails in my experience. Nothing like crashing this through the enemy frontline, driving to their undefended homepoint and hacking it in 4 seconds, completely diverting their attention. Toss a few uplinks down and catch them in a pincer attack. With another tanker, one on each front, you can cleave through the enemy, AV and all and shutdown any deploying enemy tanks.
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation
619
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Posted - 2013.12.31 20:23:00 -
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Smooth's Vicious Scout Suit:
4 Complex Kinetic Catalyzer 1 Complex Shield Extender Shotgun Scrambler Pistol Locus Grenade
Assassination is my thing.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2779
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Posted - 2013.12.31 21:05:00 -
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Having seen the fits this community is capable of, I would not buy any of them. Sorry, but the large majority of you have no clue how to maximise/play to the strengths of your suits. I await your scorn.
No.
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Deacon Obvious
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
25
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Posted - 2013.12.31 23:17:00 -
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Deacon Obvious' "Crossed Streams" Logistics G/1 Series
Enhanced Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Extender Enhanced Armor Plate Enhanced Armor Plate Enhanced Cardiac Regulator
ADV A-45 Quantum Scanner K-2 Nanohive Core Repair Tool
Assault Rifle Flux Grenade
I'd love to see this at at least a 30% discount, to convince more people to dip into the awesome squad support capability of a two-target repair tool. Bonuses to CCP if we could be allowed to manufacture equipment or modules with reduced skill requirements. Maybe not the full tier jump, but something like a two-target repper that could be used at level 4 skill. Maybe something like a two-target BDR-2. |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
478
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Posted - 2013.12.31 23:28:00 -
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Spade's Stealthy Scrambler Scout Suit. (Dat alliteration)
G/1 Series Scout Suit Adv Scrambler Rifle Adv Flalock
Enhanced Shield Extender
Enhanced Profile Dampener Enhanced Codebreaker
Repair tool
Flux Grenade.
My most used suit, and I tend to go positive with it. I'd like it to be at a 33.3% discount.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
803
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Posted - 2013.12.31 23:42:00 -
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I'd imagine people would also want to use the top players' best suit for cheap. Maybe having the restrictions taken off(PG/CPU and skill requirements) of the fittings via different "Tailoring" skills or paying for less requirements in fittings, would make them much more popular...of course players would probably be selling them for a whole lot more than what the actual fitting would cost if you make it but then these fittings would be for the players who couldn't make the fits themselves.
:O Oh but let's not forget about the future ability to craft new gear and modules from resources. Maybe non-NPC given gear or modules could be used in these fittings thus making them much more valuable since you couldn't buy the equipment via the NPC store OR at a steady price in the player-market.
I guess no one can really say whether or not it'll be a really good mechanic but they might as well put it in to let players experiment with it.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1373
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Posted - 2014.01.01 00:07:00 -
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i hope you guys are considering these suits have to work without any skills or else it defeats the purpose. O_o
when i mean skills i mean CPU and PG skills.
Main - BobThe843CakeMan
Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details.
Prices are based on who ur facing and how i feel.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
3071
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Posted - 2014.01.01 05:16:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Having seen the fits this community is capable of, I would not buy any of them. Sorry, but the large majority of you have no clue how to maximise/play to the strengths of your suits. I await your scorn. Then by all means post a fit that you find maximizes abilities, so we shall judge it as you have us. Put your ISK where your mouth is.
Something like love, something like hope.Something like beautiful, something I wrote
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
1946
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Posted - 2014.01.01 08:40:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Having seen the fits this community is capable of, I would not buy any of them. Sorry, but the large majority of you have no clue how to maximise/play to the strengths of your suits. I await your scorn. Then by all means post a fit that you find maximizes abilities, so we shall judge it as you have us. Put your ISK where your mouth is. Who cares. They obviously has not picked up that this is for fun. I don't play Dust 514 to spend hours pouring over spreadsheets to maximize my build's role. I do some math in my head, see if it isn't utter garbage, then toss it out there and see if it's fun to use. No one needs their validation; it's better to ignore them than to scorn them have this thread thrown into the abyss with the inevitable banter that will follow.
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
3074
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Posted - 2014.01.02 13:03:00 -
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Borne Velvalor wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Having seen the fits this community is capable of, I would not buy any of them. Sorry, but the large majority of you have no clue how to maximise/play to the strengths of your suits. I await your scorn. Then by all means post a fit that you find maximizes abilities, so we shall judge it as you have us. Put your ISK where your mouth is. Who cares. They obviously has not picked up that this is for fun. I don't play Dust 514 to spend hours pouring over spreadsheets to maximize my build's role. I do some math in my head, see if it isn't utter garbage, then toss it out there and see if it's fun to use. No one needs their validation; it's better to ignore them than to scorn them have this thread thrown into the abyss with the inevitable banter that will follow. Ironically enough, you are the one who have already thrown it into the abyss.
Something like love, something like hope.Something like beautiful, something I wrote
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Paran Tadec
The Hetairoi
1817
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Posted - 2014.01.02 17:53:00 -
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Paran's Hackathon logi mk.o
Highs Complex dmg mod 3x complex shield mods
Lows 1 basic kin cat 1 complex code breaker 2 enhanced Ferro scale plates
Six kin assault combat rifle Adv remote explosives Adv active scanner
Not allot of hp but great for hacking if you have a squad
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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